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My iPhone 6 quietly downloaded iOS 11.0.1 in the early morning of 29 September 2017 and I installed it anyway. I'm up to iOS 11.0.3 and so far, things seem to be okay (crossing fingers on this one!).
 
I did not assume that all/any change is good. I just meant that nothing will remain the same over a long period of time. Change will happen and change is a process. Imagine, a zig zag line that represent changes over a period of time, up and down, bad and good changes.
Yeah, actually, you did. Do I need to refresh your memory on what you said?

"Everything under the sun must learn to change, evolve, and adapt or it’ll risk become outdated and irrelevant. This include Apple and every other company and every human beings. Nothing should stay the same years after years. That is boring."
When you say "nothing should stay the same," yeah, you are arguing for change for the sake of change. And that's a terrible mantra in many things--including product development.
 
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With the rise of iOS 11, iOS 10 drops one percent. :D

Just like the stock market actually.

Prevents me to go on Wi-fi, because i don't want it to auto download.... Notification of this via cellular i guess are ok... as long as it is just a notification. There harmless.

This is good anyway because 99% of my time i spend on cellular. So in a way Apple's helping me out, by making my decision easy :)
 
Article Link: iOS 11 Overtakes iOS 10, Now Installed on 47% of Devices[/QUOTE]

I installed IOS11 on my iPad Pro and iPhone, instantly regretted as most of my apps stopped working due to the dropping of 32bit support. Looking at ways to revert back to 10. Also have refused to update my iPad Air and minis as flight control, Chuzzle and other classics stopped working. Still IOS 11 has enabled be to break from the ecosystem and may well now visit android next time.
I FELT WITH HUNDREDS OF POUNDS WORTH OF APPS I COULDNT DO THIS BEFORE.
 
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I'm part of the proud 53%. In about 30 years of owning and using Apple products, this marks the first time I've elected not to do software upgrade.

This is not the Apple I grew up with. And it's not the company that transformed itself starting around the mid 2000s either. I'm not blaming Tim Cook like lots of people on here do. But I am no longer the Apple enthusiast and evangelist I once was.
Absolutely agreed.
And considering, how many people liked your post, I think Apple should maybe reconsider their approach:
Take more time, no more "living betas".
I don't need a yearly update - I want good updates, I want stuff "that works" (and it doesn't these days). I want aesthetics (where did it go?). I want the beauty of simplicity and clarity.

I miss the old Apple.
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Doesn't everyone complain about battery life and slowdown after every new release for every device ever? Then a couple months later, you don't hear about it anymore.
Aren't there always people trying to invalidate users complaints by making them seem irrelevant which they are not?

Some people either just gave up after a few months, there have been updates or people got used (and frustrated) about it. Lots of possibilities you don't want to take into account, for the sake of trying to ridicule other people's problems.

I applaud you if you don't have any problems. But don't ridicule others who do.
 

I installed IOS11 on my iPad Pro and iPhone, instantly regretted as most of my apps stopped working due to the dropping of 32bit support. Looking at ways to revert back to 10. Also have refused to update my iPad Air and minis as flight control, Chuzzle and other classics stopped working. Still IOS 11 has enabled be to break from the ecosystem and may well now visit android next time.
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I wonder if you knew 32 bit apps were not supported in ios 11 prior to the upgrade. I believe ios 10 gave warnings about this.
Absolutely agreed.
And considering, how many people liked your post, I think Apple should maybe reconsider their approach:
Take more time, no more "living betas".
I don't need a yearly update - I want good updates, I want stuff "that works" (and it doesn't these days). I want aesthetics (where did it go?). I want the beauty of simplicity and clarity.

I miss the old Apple.
The demographic here is skewed and the number of likes don't translate into "what people really want". I happen to like ios 11 and everyone I know has updated to ios 11 without much, if any issue. You may not need a yearly update, but apple doesn't agree that it needs to move it's product at least yearly.
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When you say "nothing should stay the same," yeah, you are arguing for change for the sake of change. And that's a terrible mantra in many things--including product development.
It's also not a good thing to be left in the dust by your competitors because you don't want to innovate and update while your competitors will look at changing and innovating. Of course your definition of change(good or bad is subjective) and innovation is probably different from mine and we can split hairs on this all day long.
 
...and I'd be reverted back to 10.3.3 by now if they hadn't unsigned it as quickly as they did!

They do the same thing every year. So, claiming ignorance?

Scenarios when getting the major update:
1) upgrade first day it is out, try it a week, downgrade if its not OK (go to 3)
2) wait for the reviews for your device (usually takes a few days), if they're OK for your device
a) upgrade hoping you don't have some exceptional device, try it 3-4 days (enough time for device to sort out initial
housekeeping) if you don't like it downgrade before they stop signing it.
b) you can't afford your device being slow or buggy, wait it out (go to 3)
3) Wait for .1 or .2 reviews to come in for your device (usually before Christmas), scrape the net to see
if anyone has had adverse reactions
a) Chance it if reviews are mostly positive (you can't go back to the previous version if you do the upgrade then)
b) Look at the downsides and decide if the current version you are on is the one you stick with.
 
The apps are all garbage and constantly crash. Dude, you can't sell me on Android. I've owned many, have a note in my pocket right now, and I know all of the issues, inside out. The apps run like GARBAGE. The phone is GARBAGE.

3-4 year old iPhones hold value better for a reason...they still work.

The only thing I can say to this is:

Yeah, right, whatever.

I can't and won't use iOS, especially on a mobile.

And you're flat-out lying if you say that a 4 year-old iPhone runs better than a 4 year-old Note.

But no one is trying to sell you on anything.

Use what you want/makes you happy.
 
The only thing I can say to this is:

Yeah, right, whatever.

I can't and won't use iOS, especially on a mobile.

And you're flat-out lying if you say that a 4 year-old iPhone runs better than a 4 year-old Note.

But no one is trying to sell you on anything.

Use what you want/makes you happy.
Come use the note I'm using and tell me that. Presumptuous as hell to think you can know that, particularly when Apple is known for solid build quality and software support over many years.
 
Come use the note I'm using and tell me that. Presumptuous as hell to think you can know that, particularly when Apple is known for solid build quality and software support over many years.
Maybe you need to exchange your phone?

I have a Note 3, a Note5, and a Note8 in heavy use, as well as (2 S7Edges) and experience zero "garbage-ery".

Apple is known for crappy iOS policies regarding older device slowdown and limitations, so take a look at several other threads here on MacRumors for evidence if you need it, but since you called me on it I'll go ahead presume you'll dismiss it anyway.
 
Maybe you need to exchange your phone?

I have a Note 3, a Note5, and a Note8 in heavy use, as well as (2 S7Edges) and experience zero "garbage-ery".

Apple is known for crappy iOS policies regarding older device slowdown and limitations, so take a look at several other threads here on MacRumors for evidence if you need it, but since you called me on it I'll go ahead presume you'll dismiss it anyway.
Had 2 replacements already...it's the software dude. It's crap. Say what you want, but I'm not an Android n00b. I also have an S7 in the family and it's already crapping out.

There is evidence Apple doesn't slow down old phones too, so it's always a 2 sided argument. I don't think Android or Apple slow down anything on purpose. I just think Apple's software and hardware generally work better together for a longer period of time.
 
Had 2 replacements already...it's the software dude. It's crap. Say what you want, but I'm not an Android n00b. I also have an S7 in the family and it's already crapping out.

There is evidence Apple doesn't slow down old phones too, so it's always a 2 sided argument. I don't think Android or Apple slow down anything on purpose. I just think Apple's software and hardware generally work better together for a longer period of time.

Well say what you want, but I have nothing but Notes and S7's in the family, so the "it's crap" argument doesn't hold water here.

I also had plenty i-devices and know firsthand that they do slow down to paperweight, whether on purpose or not.

So it seems we're at opposing ends of the spectrum. Again, you like iPhones, then use them by all means.

I can't, and won't put up with it's hardware/software limitations.
 
What kind of apps are you looking for?
Music player apps (Tune Drop to name one), most Apps seem to be 32bit and haven't been updated for years. Would love a password keeper App to replace My Eyes Only (currently checking out KeePass). Some good old games, time wasters, no doubt I will learn to live without them and find something new. :)
 
Music player apps (Tune Drop to name one), most Apps seem to be 32bit and haven't been updated for years. Would love a password keeper App to replace My Eyes Only (currently checking out KeePass). Some good old games, time wasters, no doubt I will learn to live without them and find something new. :)

With password management, you can’t go wrong with 1Password, but some will balk at the subscription model.
 
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That’s not really tricked. That’s poor awareness on their part.

hence the quotes around the word tricked. my point is that occasionally the phone will ask for your passcode (rebooted overnight, for instance) and unless you carefully read the screen (which most non-technical people most certainly do not, in my experience) you put in your passcode and move on. 99% of the time it's re-enabling touchID, 1% of the time your phone gets upgraded.
 
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