iOS 11 Overtakes iOS 10, Now Installed on 47% of Devices

[JamesPDX]

Something like 40% of all Android devices run a version older than 3 years.

I have a Motorola-Moto-E that runs Mayonnaise Popsicle (or whatever) quite snappy. That was a great little phone that never gave me any trouble. Sure, it's not as snappy as the SE, but it cost less than half. Just sayin'...

 

[ThiGeever]

I wish I could go back to iOS 10 though. This iteration is so buggy and it’s causing me problems with AirPods and the watch as well.
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Disable OTA Update DISCOVERY (that's right, iOS will think it's at the latest version after this workaround)

Other than that, I absolutely agree, Apple is getting way too pushy and inconvenient in many ways.

I understand that by still running iOS 10 I put myself at some security risks, but rather than play he blame the user game just keep pushing updates for those who want to remain on older major versions.

As soon as Apple made major version upgrades free **** started to hit the fan. (Mac knew better times, iOS was practically always in this kind of situation.)

It's a ****ing shame really, I buy Apple now because it's the least terrible, not because I genuinely enjoy their products to the same degree I used to do.

I'm actually considering going with an Android phone the next time I upgrade. If my iOS have no future once Apple tries to push policies and local COMPLETE backups become a SPECIALTY that I have to actively seek out a custom iTunes download for (this is about the message sent, not the availability) then I can get a mediocre UX on cheaper hardware too, one that can offer me certain other perks though. Some that may still land on iOS, some that never will because they go against Apple values.

UI-wise I long used to think that iOS beat Android by order of magnitude, not anymore. Android actually looks a lot better in many ways, not the least of which is clearer separation of design elements, actionable buttons and MUCH better contrast overall.

Glassed Silver:ios

Agreed with all this, and Asiga’s comment too. I’m no happy buying Apple products anymore, I buy them because I think they’re the least worse. I keep thinking about switching to Android, but then think I have a lot of Apple products already

 

[Lebanese]

To Prevent iOS11 from automatically downloading :

install the tvOS beta profile. That way it will always fail to check for an update. I've been doing this for a year on my iPhone 7 Plus

 

[DeepIn2U]

Not really, I'm on the Beta program for developers and right now the only thing improved in the latest 11.1 Beta is the battery drain. I am using an iPhone 6 and the screen lag is very frustrating and almost unusable with the all of the 11 versions.

I am logging and sending in bug reports of the screen and will probably video the animations (way to aggressive and CPU/GPU intensive for the older model) in slo-mo and see if they will fix the issues for older models. Personally I would much rather still be on 10.3 and I have been recommending to my friends to NOT UPGRADE!!!!

In the nearly ten years we've had iPhones I have to admit this is the worst upgrade ever (not bugs just poorly planned for older models) from Apple for iOS. I think they built it for the new Pros and iPhone 8/X and someone forgot the depth of the device base back to model 6.

Because of this mess I have my calendar reminder set to place an order on the 27th for the X.

Update*****

My wife has 6s+ and today I found out she did an update and has 11.0.3 and it works perfectly on her iPhone. I scrolled, changed apps, videos, and just about everything I could think of, it works great!!!!!

I’m jealous.

You maybe right on this regarding the iPhone 6. It’s the oldest 64-bit iOS supported device in the lineup.

I figured the major push for this lean and flat layered UI since iOS 7 was to improve GPU performance and allow a faster UI experience across the lineup. Leaving GPU intensive tasks to apps/games that required it while the overal system UI interacted by the user would be fast fluid and smooth. Seems it’s been the opposite - according to the iPhone 6 to 8 GPU performance ratings that was shown in a blog entry just earlier this weekend on this site. Hardly any significant bump in GPU performance in iOS across the device lineup. Yet what you’re experiencing shows otherwise.

6, 6S, SE, 7 and now the 8. That’s about 4yrs old for the 6 model and just about all of them out of AppleCare+ warranty support. Those internal parts are barely being used now - AppleTV 4 maybe but the TV 4K uses iPhone 7 chipset I believe.

Curious those that buy a new iPhone 6 from Apple (do they still offer this model as new?) slap on AppleCare+ and have a. Warranty replacement in 12 months would Apple auto upgrade to iPhone 6S/7 if no 6 is in stock and cannot repair in 7-30 days?
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Sadly this will be defacto in the next few years not only for iPhones but also desktops and eventually the Apple Car.

I highly doubt that!

Too many 3rd party developers, enterprises that rely on stable iOS builds should they be forced to upgrade without user denying could render internal apps broken. BlackBerry did this with Bb10.3 and bricked a few Z30 models where the screen was blank and none responsive. Warranty claims where handle pathetically and took over 3wks even as a BES13 enterprise client the last corporation I worked for was super pissed. I’m sure it led to a fast track of iOS upgrades globally along with top echelons just going iOS themselves.

 

[Substance90]

Apple: You really trashed everything good that you used to have.

Amen to that. The problem is that there still aren't any good alternatives. Windows 10 is too privacy invasive and Linux lacks the software I need. Same story on mobile.

 

[recoil80]

Apple should just automatically update everyone. They nag you until you do it anyways.

No thanks.
And if there is a urgent security patch they ought to release it on older iOS versions. Some folks cannot install iOS 11, or don't want to and they should have protection against serious bugs.

 

[egraphixstudios]

I'm still running IOS 10 due to the issues everyone complains about. Plus I like the older control centre.

 

[bingeciren]

To Prevent iOS11 from automatically downloading :

install the tvOS beta profile. That way it will always fail to check for an update. I've been doing this for a year on my iPhone 7 Plus

Me too. I works like a charm. Seems like not too many people know about it.

 

[Abazigal]

The mistake in your statement is the implicit assumption that any change is good change. That is most certainly not the case. Change for the sake of change can, in fact, be catastrophic. History is littered with examples of products that were an attempt to innovate or pivot but instead bankrupted their parent company.

Changes instituted by Apple often tend to be for the better, even if there doesn’t seem to be any immediate benefit to moves like removing the headphone jack or blocking 32-bit apps.

And if you think that Apple implements change for the sake of change, then you give them way too little credit.

 

[69650]

iOS 11 is a big disappointment. I haven’t any changes that made my upgrade worthwhile.

 

[DesertNomad]

To Prevent iOS11 from automatically downloading :

install the tvOS beta profile. That way it will always fail to check for an update. I've been doing this for a year on my iPhone 7 Plus

How does one remove the profile later if they want to upgrade to a newer iOS? I don't want to jailbreak or otherwise do something to my phone that is not undoable.

 

[C DM]

I'm still running IOS 10 due to the issues everyone complains about. Plus I like the older control centre.

Well, it's quite a ways off from even most, let alone everyone.
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How does one remove the profile later if they want to upgrade to a newer iOS? I don't want to jailbreak or otherwise do something to my phone that is not undoable.

There's a section in settings for profiles (once any are installed) where they can be deleted.

 

[jayducharme]

Same here. I'll wait for around 11.3. Hopefully everything is fixed by then

I don't understand how long one would have to wait for an update to be "stable". There are always bugs in software as complex as iOS. The software goes through nearly a year of developer and public betas. Apple won't intentionally release it to trash your device. Apple patches them over time. While I no longer test the betas, I have no problem updating to the latest iOS.

I'm wondering if the lower adoption rate has to do with how iOS 11 obsoletes a lot of older apps.

 

[melendezest]

Something like 40% of all Android devices run a version older than 3 years.

And yet, a 2013 Android phone is as useful today as it was then, running most if not all current apps.

You CANNOT say the same for an iOS device that old.

That is why these stats are great for devs to know, but useless for users.

 

[john123]

Changes instituted by Apple often tend to be for the better, even if there doesn’t seem to be any immediate benefit to moves like removing the headphone jack or blocking 32-bit apps.

And if you think that Apple implements change for the sake of change, then you give them way too little credit.

Again, I've been an Apple user for three decades. I've given credit where credit is due. It isn't on a bunch of things lately. Getting a lot of things right in the past isn't a blank check. As I seem to have to keep repeating, it's great that you're satisfied with the experience. You just need to recognize that a chunk of people aren't.

Or don't recognize it. Ignorance is bliss, right?

 

[Kabeyun]

When you see an older device still running the OS it came with (or maybe one later) you realize how great of an idea it actually is. My wife's mini 2 is now more responsive than my air 2 because I've updated to 11 and she's still on 8.

Natch. Never want your OS to outpace your hardware too far.

 

[Baymowe335]

And yet, a 2013 Android phone is as useful today as it was then, running most if not all current apps.

You CANNOT say the same for an iOS device that old.

That is why these stats are great for devs to know, but useless for users.

The apps are all garbage and constantly crash. Dude, you can't sell me on Android. I've owned many, have a note in my pocket right now, and I know all of the issues, inside out. The apps run like GARBAGE. The phone is GARBAGE.

3-4 year old iPhones hold value better for a reason...they still work.

 

[grundoon]

* sigh *

Translation: iOS 11 is now on 59% of eligible devices. And surpassed iOS 10 installation on iOS 11-eligible devices over a week ago, on October 3.

See you again next week.

 

[lincolntran]

IOS has pretty much been the same for 10 years though...

In what aspect did you mean? Obviously the OS has gone through some huge changes...
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The mistake in your statement is the implicit assumption that any change is good change. That is most certainly not the case. Change for the sake of change can, in fact, be catastrophic. History is littered with examples of products that were an attempt to innovate or pivot but instead bankrupted their parent company.

I did not assume that all/any change is good. I just meant that nothing will remain the same over a long period of time. Change will happen and change is a process. Imagine, a zig zag line that represent changes over a period of time, up and down, bad and good changes.

 

[ChrisCW11]

not really as fast as other versions. And I am holding off on ANY more updates until 11.1. I am so tired of quality degradation for the first 10 or so rapid fire updates from Apple. Apple is the new Microsoft, you always wait for X +.1 update and ignore the first few kicks at the can.

 

[Mr Staunton]

Still searching for Apps to replace the ones that will no longer work, seems to be taking me longer than I thought it would.

 

[MaSx]

iOS 11.1 for me.

 

[I7guy]

iOS 11.1 for me.

iOS 11.1 beta 2 ironed out some rough spots especially with Bluetooth and WiFi; in my opinion.

 

[Bacillus]

I wish I could go back to iOS 10 though. This iteration is so buggy and it’s causing me problems with AirPods and the watch as well.
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Agreed with all this, and Asiga’s comment too. I’m no happy buying Apple products anymore, I buy them because I think they’re the least worse. I keep thinking about switching to Android, but then think I have a lot of Apple products already

not really as fast as other versions. And I am holding off on ANY more updates until 11.1. I am so tired of quality degradation for the first 10 or so rapid fire updates from Apple. Apple is the new Microsoft, you always wait for X +.1 update and ignore the first few kicks at the can.

These particular feelings made me a happy no-grader: won't upgrade and can't downgrade.
I know that when leaving for Android, Tim's most inner feeling towards me will be: "Well then, **ck off - for you 4 other customers" and I just don't grant the beancounter that molecular pleasure.
(if that sounds fairly frustrated, it isn't a coincidence)
So I stay where I am: at 9.32 jb
My wifi works and batt holds a full day - within the current Apple hemisphere those are the sole indispensable functionalities
(if recovered by iOS 11.999xx in some undocumented distant future, they may call on me for another chance)

 

[Abazigal]

Still searching for Apps to replace the ones that will no longer work, seems to be taking me longer than I thought it would.

What kind of apps are you looking for?