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Still on iPhone 6+ Jailbroken iOS 9.3.3 with an uncluttered, single page control center and a hack that allows pip. No way I'm updating!
Except there’s some nasty zero-day vulnerabilities that are never going to be patched. Apple has become really bad about previous iOS patching. I remember when Versions like Snow Leopard got years of security updates... but again the os lifespan was longer back then.
 
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Everything under the sun must learn to change, evolve, and adapt or it’ll risk become outdated and irrelevant. This include Apple and every other company and every human beings. Nothing should stay the same years after years. That is boring.

The mistake in your statement is the implicit assumption that any change is good change. That is most certainly not the case. Change for the sake of change can, in fact, be catastrophic. History is littered with examples of products that were an attempt to innovate or pivot but instead bankrupted their parent company.
 
I bought a 6S as my 5 didn’t support iOS 11. Now I refuse to put iOS 11 on my 6S.
It’s your decision of course, but for me it’s running great. (Except the calculator app is dropping keystrokes.)

btw, as of yesterday, Apple was still signing 10.3.3 for the 6S (only). Double check it, and if you’re not averse to downgrading, maybe give 11 a try. The A9/2GB platform (6S, SE, 2017 iPad) doesn’t seem to have a performance issue with it.
 
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Adoption has been slower because Apple wisely isn't notifying people on their phones to update to iOS 11. I haven't received a single notification on any of my iOS devices to update to iOS 11. And this is a great thing. This is how it should be. Let other people work out all the bugs for a few months, and THEN alert me that it's time to update.
 
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I'm part of the proud 53%. In about 30 years of owning and using Apple products, this marks the first time I've elected not to do software upgrade.

This is not the Apple I grew up with. And it's not the company that transformed itself starting around the mid 2000s either. I'm not blaming Tim Cook like lots of people on here do. But I am no longer the Apple enthusiast and evangelist I once was.
What is the Apple you used to know? Because what I see, Apple is just getting better and better with their iOS. ;)
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Please God no.
I agree with him. I think everyone should have the best iOS out there. ;)
 
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Adoption has been slower because Apple wisely isn't notifying people on their phones to update to iOS 11. I haven't received a single notification on any of my iOS devices to update to iOS 11. And this is a great thing. This is how it should be. Let other people work out all the bugs for a few months, and THEN alert me that it's time to update.
Exactly. My 7+ didn't receive the automatic download until 11.0.1 was released. Promptly deleted it. At least in iOS 10 I don't have a (1) on the settings app. I only see the (1) when I open the app.
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Apple should just automatically update everyone. They nag you until you do it anyways.
Sadly this will be defacto in the next few years not only for iPhones but also desktops and eventually the Apple Car.
 
iOS 11 is truly a beast. However there's always a few bugs with every new system which need to be worked out.
Many people waiting on sidelines for about a month because by then updates usually take care of these annoyances. I usually update early but I'm still waiting after still reading about bugs occurring
 
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I agree with him. I think everyone should have the best iOS out there. ;)
On the former, you're welcome to your opinion. On the latter, I can only assume you're being sarcastic. Because the idea of forcing an OS upgrade onto users is one of the most galactically stupid ideas ever put forward on here.
 
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Definitely the worst iOS i've dealt with so far. I love the interface but this OS definitely seemed like it was released too early.
 
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ios 11? what is "ios 11"?
 
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Definitely the worst iOS i've dealt with so far. I love the interface but this OS definitely seemed like it was released too early.

Maybe just another one of Tim Cook's profit taking measures to push QA testing to customers.
 
What is the Apple you used to know? Because what I see, Apple is just getting better and better with their iOS. ;)
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I agree with him. I think everyone should have the best iOS out there. ;)

Indeed, but it's pretty difficult to get iOS 6 on a modern Apple device. :p
 
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Can't complain a bit on IOS 11. Obviously slower on my 4 year old iPad mini2, but runs excellent on my 6s. Over all a few minor glitches on the day, but after the last 3 updates everything is now smooth. My Battery on both devices is about the same as it was on IOS 10. A thumbs up here. :D
 
No wonder. I erased the download from my parents iPad, and I hoped the iPad would learn that erasing the download would be understood by the iPad as a clear message in the lines of "thanks but I don't want to update". However, Apple is pushing hard these days, very hard, in a really annoying way, so annoying that their products are not user-friendly anymore, but Apple-friendly, or CEO-friendly, or, actually, life-control-friendly.

Today, my parents (who are elderly) inadvertently accepted a dialog for updating to iOS 11, and here we go, a new iPad updated to iOS 11... some 32 bit apps that were useful no longer work, the iPad now is very pushing to activate Touch ID, a password, Apple Pay, etc... (I had to repeat TWICE that I do NOT want Touch ID nor a password, nor iCloud, nor NOTHING, and I'm afraid the iPad will ask me again about that... maybe someday it will require you to accept its blackmail for it to work).

Apple is doing exactly (and I mean exactly, and let me insist: exactly) the same things why I considered Microsoft user-unfriendly and that made me switch from PC to Mac decades ago.

And then you have the fanboys who tell you "if you need to use 32 bit apps, very easy: don't update to iOS 11". Really? Are you joking? How on Earth can you configure your iPad so that elderly people won't get confused and install iOS 11 by mistake when Apple is pushing hard to do whatever the CEO wants?

It's not the first time I realize about this, but today I see it really clear: Maybe I'll continue using Apple-derived technology in the future, because I'm a UNIX user/developer, and because I want products that work out of the box. But I'm almost sure now that I won't be using Apple-genuine products in the future, but Apple-derived ones.

Apple: You really trashed everything good that you used to have.
Disable OTA Update DISCOVERY (that's right, iOS will think it's at the latest version after this workaround)

Other than that, I absolutely agree, Apple is getting way too pushy and inconvenient in many ways.

I understand that by still running iOS 10 I put myself at some security risks, but rather than play he blame the user game just keep pushing updates for those who want to remain on older major versions.

As soon as Apple made major version upgrades free **** started to hit the fan. (Mac knew better times, iOS was practically always in this kind of situation.)

It's a ****ing shame really, I buy Apple now because it's the least terrible, not because I genuinely enjoy their products to the same degree I used to do.

I'm actually considering going with an Android phone the next time I upgrade. If my iOS have no future once Apple tries to push policies and local COMPLETE backups become a SPECIALTY that I have to actively seek out a custom iTunes download for (this is about the message sent, not the availability) then I can get a mediocre UX on cheaper hardware too, one that can offer me certain other perks though. Some that may still land on iOS, some that never will because they go against Apple values.

UI-wise I long used to think that iOS beat Android by order of magnitude, not anymore. Android actually looks a lot better in many ways, not the least of which is clearer separation of design elements, actionable buttons and MUCH better contrast overall.

Glassed Silver:ios
 
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