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Just installed the iOS update and group face time is not available. Anyone else also having this problem?

Edit: The "add a person" button is greyed out.
 
Your carrier throttles you...nothing is truly unlimited.
True...but Apple should let us make the decision to download while on cellular imho

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Only Apple can do this.
Imagine if this problem was on Android, users would be waiting for years (probably forever) for an update fix it.

It would likely be fixed in a similar timeframe. There doesn't seem to be any default video chat feature thats built into Android. They're all separate apps are updated individually via the Play Store.
 
Anyone else kind of disappointed with Apple's release notes?

"iOS 12.1.4 provides important security updates and is recommended for all users."

Just be straight up and state exactly what it fixes. I know all of us here are always on the cutting edge of Apple news, but the average user may not have even heard about or been made aware of the FaceTime issue. Let's be honest, Apple messed up. Not to say no one else messes up and even worse, but it happened. ALL the customers should be aware that these kinds of bugs make it through sometimes, and then each of us can make an educated decision on whether we want to continue using this product or not. For me, I'll stay with Apple for now. I never use FaceTime and no one has tried to FaceTime me since the buggy update went out, so I'm not too concerned personally, but to know that there might be some major bug like this that I might never know about unless I read about it on MacRumors just doesn't sit well with me. As a customer, I have usually assumed that Apple mentions major things in their update notes, but seeing the way this one was pushed out with the general "security updates" garbage that tells us literally nothing just busts my bubble a little bit and makes me realize that I will have to check a second source whenever Apple tells us anything. I usually do that anyways, but with Apple I had a little more trust.
 
They don't want to allow an unstable LTE connection and brick your phone.
Not sure about that...they do a checksum validation on the update after it is downloaded...even on WiFi. If there is any data corruption then the update is aborted or re-downloaded.
 
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Anyone else kind of disappointed with Apple's release notes?

"iOS 12.1.4 provides important security updates and is recommended for all users."

Just be straight up and state exactly what it fixes. I know all of us here are always on the cutting edge of Apple news, but the average user may not have even heard about or been made aware of the FaceTime issue. Let's be honest, Apple messed up. Not to say no one else messes up and even worse, but it happened. ALL the customers should be aware that these kinds of bugs make it through sometimes, and then each of us can make an educated decision on whether we want to continue using this product or not. For me, I'll stay with Apple for now. I never use FaceTime and no one has tried to FaceTime me since the buggy update went out, so I'm not too concerned personally, but to know that there might be some major bug like this that I might never know about unless I read about it on MacRumors just doesn't sit well with me. As a customer, I have usually assumed that Apple mentions major things in their update notes, but seeing the way this one was pushed out with the general "security updates" garbage that tells us literally nothing just busts my bubble a little bit and makes me realize that I will have to check a second source whenever Apple tells us anything. I usually do that anyways, but with Apple I had a little more trust.

If you click the link provided in the update for more info, it clearly shows FaceTime, Live Photos, memory corruption and kernel vulnerability.
 
Anyone else kind of disappointed with Apple's release notes?

"iOS 12.1.4 provides important security updates and is recommended for all users."

Just be straight up and state exactly what it fixes. I know all of us here are always on the cutting edge of Apple news, but the average user may not have even heard about or been made aware of the FaceTime issue. Let's be honest, Apple messed up. Not to say no one else messes up and even worse, but it happened. ALL the customers should be aware that these kinds of bugs make it through sometimes, and then each of us can make an educated decision on whether we want to continue using this product or not. For me, I'll stay with Apple for now. I never use FaceTime and no one has tried to FaceTime me since the buggy update went out, so I'm not too concerned personally, but to know that there might be some major bug like this that I might never know about unless I read about it on MacRumors just doesn't sit well with me. As a customer, I have usually assumed that Apple mentions major things in their update notes, but seeing the way this one was pushed out with the general "security updates" garbage that tells us literally nothing just busts my bubble a little bit and makes me realize that I will have to check a second source whenever Apple tells us anything. I usually do that anyways, but with Apple I had a little more trust.
To be fair it does say to check and links to the Apple security page for more information.
 
If you click the link provided in the update for more info, it clearly shows FaceTime, Live Photos, memory corruption and kernel vulnerability.
To be fair it does say to check and links to the Apple security page for more information.
True, but again, the average user probably does not click the link. They see the update, think "Oh just the usual security updates," and move on with life. I'm fine with that kind of nothing update note on little things like moved a button 2 pixels to the left or fixed the way the second hand moves on the clock app, but for a major bug like this the customer should be made aware as easily as possible. It sort of reminds me of the whole battery optimization update that slowed the processor down occasionally. Like, they said what the update was without really saying what the update was.
 
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They don't want to allow an unstable LTE connection and brick your phone.
Not really sure how much that might factor into it. WiFi connections can have instability as well. Even that aside, connectivity type of things shouldn't result in something like the device being bricked--if the update doesn't download properly then it won't get validated and won't get installed, so nothing should change when it comes to the device being in a working state.
 
Not really sure how much that might factor into it. WiFi connections can have instability as well. Even that aside, connectivity type of things shouldn't result in something like the device being bricked--if the update doesn't download properly then it won't get validated and won't get installed, so nothing should change when it comes to the device being in a working state.
It has to be related. Why would they otherwise care if you downloaded over LTE? They probably also don't want to be blamed for people going over data limits.
 
It has to be related. Why would they otherwise care if you downloaded over LTE? They probably also don't want to be blamed for people going over data limits.
The latter is more like it. Also potentially related that carriers don't necessarily want to be overloaded with too many devices asking for potentially rather large downloads more or less at the same time. In some part this might be something left over from a previous time when LTE wasn't around and data was more limited on carriers.
 
The latter is more like it. Also potentially related that carriers don't necessarily want to be overloaded with too many devices asking for potentially rather large downloads more or less at the same time. In some part this might be something left over from a previous time when LTE wasn't around and data was more limited on carriers.
I think you’ve hit it.

Apple drops and update and everyone on ATT starts downloading it OTA.
 
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Please Apple...in this day and age of unlimited data plans....Please let me install while I'm at work on cellular.
I have unlimited data....let me at least have the option to down load and install on cellular
Imagine if everyone did this when Apple released software updates. What do you think the consequences are?
 
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A week behind what? Your time table?
Haha. No. A week behind when they said they would release the update to begin with. They initially promised a fix by the end of last week, however we ended up having to wait till the end of this week to get it.
[doublepost=1549598387][/doublepost]Does anyone know anything about this information regarding Google release by Apple Insider? Let me know if this is new information or not

https://www.google.com/amp/s/applei...loited-by-hackers-google-researcher-says/amp/
 
Haha. No. A week behind when they said they would release the update to begin with. They initially promised a fix by the end of last week, however we ended up having to wait till the end of this week to get it.
[doublepost=1549598387][/doublepost]Does anyone know anything about this information regarding Google release by Apple Insider? Let me know if this is new information or not

https://www.google.com/amp/s/applei...loited-by-hackers-google-researcher-says/amp/
Sounds like during the process of fixing one issue they worked on some others as well which perhaps needed more time. Should that have rushed to get it out incomplete in some way because they originally hoped to have it resolved last week (especially if Group FaceTime was already disabled and the issue wasn't exploitable at that time)? Fairly basic reality in play it seems.
 
Yay! because 10 person group video chats where everyone is a dark fuzzy micro thumbnail video that randomly change position is awesome..........
 
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