We don’t yet know the extent of the iPhone X throttling. It may be able to go to a lower percentage of battery health before performance management is turned on.
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iOS 12.1 Extends Battery-Related Performance Management Feature to iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X
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i just know the galaxy s8 at the time was thinner and had a twice a big battery. not cool.
I dont trust what iOS is reporting on these iphone battery health....You have some people here with 1 year old phone that has only drop 1-2% during that period....that is makes zero sense. Ball Park 300 Cycle Count per year and it only drop 1-2%? Nah, thats bs.
They’re draining their battery to zero every day and charging it? Because that’s what a cycle is. It isn’t just “I charged it overnight, that’s a cycle” if you only charged it 50%.
Doesn't have to be drained to zero though, could be drained to 20% and charged to 90% and then drained to 50% and charged up to 80%, for example.
Yeah. My point was more that it is only one cycle after it is a full charge. So unless that person is really slamming their phone, they’re probably not getting 300 cycles in a year.
Seems neither did Apple....Hence all the battery replacements and hidden software tweaks to overcome the issue unless you’re suggesting Apple intended and designed it in from the start, i.e. to have to slow up their devices after a year; a feature they didn’t seem to need before the iPhone 6....or until they were exposed.
I think it more likely that Apple just underspec'd the battery as much as they could.
Then when devices that weren't even a full year old and under the base warranty had problems, they secretly included a "feature" that would slow the device down considerably. This, all while removing the battery health info capabilities and having their own diagnostics report "Healthy" above 80% health, despite throttling well above that. Then they refused to replace said batteries, both under warranty and to customers willing to pay, despite throttling unless the battery was below 80%.
Meanwhile, some number of people either assumed their devices were just slow thanks to routinely bloated iOS updates, or told outright that nothing was wrong with their phones, since there was no indication of any kind of battery and no known link between battery and performance of the device, and ended up replacing them with new ones.
Then some clever guy figures it out and manages to get the trillion dollar company to come clean. Incredible.
I don't know. I mean for some using up most of the battery in a day is probably not all that typical, but for some it's probably fairly typical depending on how they use the device and what they use it for on a daily basis.
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Perhaps the mobile hardware until that point didn't outpace what the battery technology could support?
Oh yeah, I’m sure there are people who use their phones so much it’s 300 cycles a year. But they’re probably doing it for business, and paying for a new battery every 3 or so years becomes a cost of doing business.
Apple bring it to iPad please! I have a 2 1/2 year old pro that I suspect has a slowly failing battery and I would like to the know the health of it from a first-party system level
Low power mode is just designed to get more out of your already almost drained battery. I see this more as "User wants to ignore the warning and continue" method.
I reckon Apple is basically trying to squeeze as much out of these batteries as possible, "giving users the opportunity" favors actually following the rules. You never have this issue on the Mac, and they all use the same type of batteries.
It's just down to Apple doesn't wanna stuff up their tightly controlled power management on iOS.
That doesn't mean Apple have to take advantage though, this should be an opportunity to educate people about after all that was Steve Jobs legacy to educate people instead of using it as a income opportunity. SMH!
My workplace iPhone 6 still shows 100%. I would not put too much trust into that meter.
If it was an apple only issue I’d agree. I’d say the gripe for me is cost of replacement. It was too high considering it was a needed action until they lowered it after it was exposed what was going on.
Or perhaps more along the lines of what I brought up after all: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/01/smartphone-battery-life-test-year-over-year-decline/
How iOS deals with A11 or earlier and the AWW when it comes to "stepping up" and switching between different low power and high performance cores - I think Ars did a good in depth review - most likely is part of why. Heat plays into that as it will with battery use so thermal readings from various chips. Worst case, patch the code for each or look at using revised chips after 3-4 months of experience and more is known.
Hope it isn't kn the A12 SoC.
Hope it isn't kn the A12 SoC.
Instead of throttling the phone, I’d rather get a notification that says “replace battery”. Pretty sure my MacBook Pro doesn’t do this crap!
There’s actually nothing wrong with charging your phone too much. In fact, it’s better for the battery to be charging as often as possible because the thing that degrades the battery is when you discharge it
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Your battery has to be degraded to the point where the phone could shut down. If it’s not to that point yet, then the feature isn’t enabled so therefore you can’t disable it.
Petty sure laptop batteries are much bigger with more cells which plays a difference.