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Trying to time everything for a once-a-year big-bang release is a very Jobsian presentation-over-practicality move that apparently only he could effectively coordinate. That strategy just doesn't seem to fit the profile of a Cook-led Apple. Just like it did Microsoft over the past few years, some added transparency would do Apple some good.

Funny as just about EVERY company does or had for decades released major updates consolidated in a major update release:

Chips from Intel or AMD
Chips from ATI or Nvidia (whene theyvehere separate companies on their own)
OSX for more than 10 yrs
Mac OS for another 10-12yrs
Windows .... ever since 3.1
Oracle, Sun, Microsoft etc.

Maybe the major office move has something to do with it. Maybe something else internally is causing issues ... either way something needs to resolve the major issues and delays. Soon enough sub point releases will also be “too much” to handle.
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Wait, what...they’re going to put FaceTime with Animoji one of the things on the to-do list? Why? Even the kids aren’t going to use this more than a handful of times after the novelty wears off.

I know I’m not a supermodel but I don’t need to transform into a unicorn or a chicken to conduct a video call. What the ever loving heck is this sorcery? :confused:

There just are so many more things they could be prioritizing. Things that have already been pointed out in this thread.

This is just so flipping weird to me. And I use a lot of cutesy stuff on phones. But I still think it’s weird given that they sound like they have limited time and resources and want to use them to focus on building stability and usefulness.

The sad thing is that every tween (11yr old) to “young adult” (22/24yr old) is just so mindlessly random and funny would LOVE to surprise FaceTime call you with a more realistic Animoji or BOMB you with iMessage Animoji across an entire screen with video enhancements.

This is the future that computers was apparaently to bring. This drives video card processing power beyond AR in mobile chips. By gone is the era of refinement and productivity. We have AI to do that for us. Kids are using their parents disposable income to live off of investments and get the latest gear to brag and have a fun time. All while being clowns at it.

If a woman I dated EVER FaceTimes me with Animoji without prior warning I’ll hang up.

While Animoji are not my cup of tea, I can easily see why apple would focus on it. It’s the teen crowd and snap crowd that eat that stuff up. And that’s a big market as they have 100% disposable income generally once they wheedle something from their parents/guardians/trust funds.

Spot on!

Ok so we’re complaining to the wrong target segment or team. We really should be smacking upside the heads of these parents with trust funds to kids when they should be getting an education and real lives vs screwing around all day with Animoji. They should be interacting with LIVE human beings. Lol who am I kidding this is the FaceBook generation that lives on Tinder or SnapChat.
 
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You would think so, but Apple seems determined to attach Siri updates to major iOS releases. It’s infuriating.

What I find infuriating is Siri replaced the built-in system yet for the most simplestic functions, Siri cannot complete without an Internet connection:

Check the time,
Set an alarm
Set a reminder
Invoke a Calendar appointment (using local calendar, local contacts that have local address therein (example 1 below).
Can’t set an current action to be done when internet connection is re-established (example 2 below).

Toronto Subway (TTC) only allows 1 carrier data throughout and its be crappiest carrier for signal above ground. During rush hour commutes or during weekend rides either the “free” Wi-Fi is too congested to get authenticated through the very slow share sheet pop up which on various weeks could be a simple tap to accept policies, other times to sign in to Twitter account (does NOt recognize previous iOS settings logon or the official app), other times to move an icon from one side of the screen to another. It’s just too slow before the train leaves the station and you loose the signal until the train gets to a complete stop at the next station. It’s the worst implementation in the world.

Siri localization functionality example 1:
Hey Siri, set a Calendar appointment to see my doctor this Saturday at 1PM.
- if I can manually type this into the calendar without an internet connection why can’t a local API do this handsfree? Why restrict it?

Siri localizarion functionality example 2:
Hey Siri. Send an email to my boss when I have carrier signal: (voice dictate the email).
- this can be a draft and then Siri can send soon as I have carrier connectivity with data.

PS; during TTC rush hour trains are so packed you only have handsfree to hold onto a railing to operate a headset, phone, watch or hold your laptop bag, briefcase etc.

I said this many times when it came up in a discussion that yearly updates have to stop including WWDC. Current features need bug fixing and some need to be expanded like "Do not Disturb". Some features do not work very well with VPN like copy and paste.

I hope you’re not referring to copy n paste credentials into VPN which should never be enabled on any platform in my opinion and experience.

Some functionality within a VPN connection maybe disabled by the VPN app or MDM security profiles installed. Could be something else like a RDP app that has restrictions or the remote sites desktop/environment having restrictions.
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I don't think Tim Cook is worried that you lack faith in their strategy. No company in the history of the world knows as much about winning. They just set another all time world record for revenue in one quarter $88 BILLION, and they are the most valuable company in the history of the world. They've dominated just about every category they've entered as the ankle biters sneered at them for being late, out of touch, overpriced, etc.,

  1. They just reached an installed base of over 1.3 BILLION devices, a 30% growth just two years.
  2. Siri is by far the most used personal assistant in the world, with REGULAR use by over 500 million people.
  3. Just became the largest seller of cell phones in the world, but more importantly, they have over 90% of the ENTIRE cell phone industry profits for smart phones
  4. They now have 85% of contactless payment market in US
  5. They are now largest wireless headphone maker in world
  6. They have over 60% of premium headphone market in world
  7. Apple Music now #2 in the world
I could go on, but you get the point.


Winning!

Indeed they are winning and so successfully so. Yet it seems their ego/ignorance for quality of features has grown.

There is an old saying .... “The bigger they are, the harder they fall”.

Exxon
Anderson & Anderson

Just to make two. There is plenty more of we co side USA bailouts. Nothing flies high in the sky forever while nothing crawls on the ground forever.

It's probably relative to how satisfied you are with the product and how useful the overall experience is to each of us. I (and I suspect many others here) have no problem with Apple adding a feature we can simply ignore if we don't find it useful. But when we see release after release with emoji updates while other functionality we find more useful to us is not improved upon, we will complain about it. To suggest it is somehow "wrong" to do so as some (not necessarily you) often do, and to dismiss it as strictly an age-related thing is silly. In this instance, there is ample evidence of an age gap with emoji use, but the same is not necessarily true for Siri and other features that could be improved upon and are not.

I've been an Apple consumer since the early 90s. I am among those who feel Apple has been on a downhill slide for some years now in terms of robustness, intuitiveness, and minimal intrusiveness (something I REALLY appreciated). I didn't mind paying a premium because at the time their products were discernibly superior for my uses. Well, "It just works" is not really true any more. At this rate, a day will come when the "premium" is no longer justified for me. I think this is true for a lot of us. So yeah, getting hassled on an increasingly regular basis to update my mobile devices for new emojis is very disappointing.

Well said. Honestly brilliantly stated. Love the online tag - great memories from the talking horse. ;) my pops would love it!
 
Why is it that diffiuclt for them to just do both? Why can't we have a redesigned home screen on top of the other things mentioned? I imagine that a lot of folks, myself included, would more appreciate a redesigned home screen and tabbed apps than we would some damn animoji.
 
Indeed they are winning and so successfully so. Yet it seems their ego/ignorance for quality of features has grown.

There is an old saying .... “The bigger they are, the harder they fall”.

Exxon
Anderson & Anderson

Just to make two. There is plenty more of we co side USA bailouts. Nothing flies high in the sky forever while nothing crawls on the ground forever.



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True, but there's nothing to suggest that Apple, from a business, financial, etc., perspective is on any trajectory downward. Quite the contrary as they have been hitting it out of the ballpark with nearly everything they've done over the past few years under Cook and company against mammoth competitors.

Let's look at their recent trends aside from just record setting revenue:

  • Apple Pay having reached about 85% of the entire contactless payment market in US;
  • Apple Watch starting from zero to owning the entire market for smart watches,
  • the iPad now having almost the entire market of tablets $200 and up;
  • Apple now having become the largest seller of wireless headphones in the world, and 60% of the premium headphone market in the world;
  • AirPods a smash hit
  • Siri becoming by far the most used personal assistant in the world with over half a billion people using her regularly, CarPlay now in the vast majority of all car models;
  • Apple Music going from zero to second in the world.
  • Apple Services growing so fast it has become the equivalent of a Fortune 100 company all by itself with QUARTERLY revenues dwarfing the entire YEARLY revenues of Facebook
  • Apple Stores setting all time world records for sales per square foot, dwarfing every other retailer in the world

The mistake is losing perspective every time they have a stumble or setback when that is the nature of the technology industry and the fact is that 99% of the people don't even notice or care. Recent example, by all measures the HomePod is a fantastic speaker that will bring in billions more in revenue. Is it fully enabled at rollout? No, but people get it that Airplay 2 is coming and that Apple will turn on more things like ordering a Uber, reading your calendar, etc., with free over the air updates, so it's not a big deal, as in the meantime they will have a fantastic sounding speaker that does MOST of what they want a smart speaker to do.

BTW - Not sure why you chose Exxon, as they are the opposite of what you seem to be suggesting is a doomed future. ExxonMobil has lasted over 135 years, evolving from a regional marketer of kerosene in the U.S. to the largest publicly traded petroleum and petrochemical enterprise in the world.
 
Indeed they are winning and so successfully so. Yet it seems their ego/ignorance for quality of features has grown.

There is an old saying .... “The bigger they are, the harder they fall”.

Exxon
Anderson & Anderson
Indeed, nothing lasts forever.

There may well come a day when Apple is indeed doomed. That I do not deny.

However, that likely won’t be anytime in the near foreseeable future. If you keeping repeating the tired old refrain of how Apple is doomed, yes, one day, you probably will end up being right.

But it also means that you will have overlooked so many of Apple’s accomplishments and milestones during this time that in the greater scheme of things, you would have been dead wrong.

That just feels counterproductive to me however I look at it.
 
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But it also means that you will have overlooked so many of Apple’s accomplishments and milestones during this time that in the greater scheme of things, you would have been dead wrong.
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One accomplishment is how they brought back the AirPower's delay from 18 to 17,5 weeks
(and I'm still getting by how they fixed the Calculator bug...just so incredibly fast
Just the kind of inspiration that might lead to an iPad calculator app)
 
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Yeah, but I’m losing faith that Siri is going anywhere meaningful. Can Apple really compete with the likes of Google Assistant and Alexa?

It can but I think Alexa will always be top dog

Think it’s better by a good amount even from google assistant
 
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