iOS 14 Could Offer Home Screen Widgets, Wallpaper Customizations

[cgsnipinva]

The wallpaper function on the iPhone is just outdated. They need to implement the Apple Watch functionality. where every time you look at the watch a different wallpaper is shown. Or maybe it changes every hour etc (similar to the Mac). Theirs a lot they can do on that..
And we just need Siri Shortcuts improvements! Please! open everything up to be able to be ran automatically.

So the big technical and innovative advantage that Android phones have over Apple is wallpaper management.

Interesting.
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From Anandtech:

I think - but when the A14 chip come out - I think that gap opens up quite a bit. Snapdragons are stock implementations of ARM. Apple has done a lot of investment and work regarding this proprietary implementation of this set on their SOC.
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I find it amusing that the Android fanboys talk about all of this technical advantages the Android platform has over the iPhone to include better icon management, better mutlti-tasking and "wallpaper management" for a small screen phone platform.

Then when you get to tablets with more memory, storage and screen space -- and all those Android advantages to turn to **** in comparison to the iOS tablet implementation. On a tablet all of these "advantages" for Android should be even more apparent - especially multi-tasking and application quality --- yet it all evaporates and the Android is relegated to be useful just on the small screen phone platform.

Their logic doesn't execute.

 

[mi7chy]

I’m curious, where are you finding these background multitasking time limitations within iOS?!

Discovered from personal use then found it documented in app support notes. That's why iOS/iPadOS isn't a computer replacement.

https://docs.termius.com/faq/troubleshooting/cant-run-in-the-background
"Termius, like most of other apps, can’t run in the background due to a restriction of iOS. The latest version of iOS stops the app’s background processes almost immediately (in 20 or 30 seconds), while older versions would allow them to run for 2 - 3 minutes."

 

[tomegun]

I didn't read the replies, but have two points:
1. I bet $10 it doesn't allow for customizations
2. Someone should have either purchased Windows mobile or partnered with Microsoft a long time ago. It was really good just implemented horribly.

 

[1193001]

I just want an option like my android phone to move my icons anywhere i want. I am tired how forced they are all the way to the top. I like to have a weather or clock widget on top with 6 folders of apps on the bottom like how I do on my android phone

 

[mi7chy]

I don’t see the difference, but okay. It’s a folder with all my apps.

Not the same thing. It's like decluttering the living room by putting things in boxes in your living room (iOS way) vs putting them in the garage (Android way). Also, more work with iOS for upkeeping since newly installed apps automatically get put on home screen while on Android it's optional.

 

[chucker23n1]

2. Someone should have either purchased Windows mobile or partnered with Microsoft a long time ago. It was really good just implemented horribly.

So… not good, then?

Do you mean Windows Mobile, or Windows Phone?

 

[cgsnipinva]

I didn't read the replies, but have two points:
1. I bet $10 it doesn't allow for customizations
2. Someone should have either purchased Windows mobile or partnered with Microsoft a long time ago. It was really good just implemented horribly.

On this I would agree as MS had some good ideas in their mobile OS. And unlike Android - but like Apple - it was connected to an ecosystem. However, the MS ecosystem was geared towards commercial environments and not consumer which hampered it.

 

[1193001]

On this I would agree as MS had some good ideas in their mobile OS. And unlike Android - but like Apple - it was connected to an ecosystem. However, the MS ecosystem was geared towards commercial environments and not consumer which hampered it.

i really loved my windows phone, damn I wish they came back. At the moment I am PC, Android Phone and Ipad lol, I want a iphone but only for facetime and imessage i really don't care much about anything else for a phone since I really do love how androids are so open with really good file systems. What I wish was for that android case for iphones to be out damn

 

[cgsnipinva]

i really loved my windows phone, damn I wish they came back. At the moment I am PC, Android Phone and Ipad lol, I want a iphone but only for facetime and imessage i really don't care much about anything else for a phone since I really do love how androids are so open with really good file systems. What I wish was for that android case for iphones to be out damn

I started out with Android - but for me app quality and OS fragmentation was a problem. As much as we bang on Apple - Android had a devil of a time getting a decent message APP and then there is google - I just don't trust google and have no accounts with any of their products.

 

[4jasontv]

I just want an option like my android phone to move my icons anywhere i want. I am tired how forced they are all the way to the top. I like to have a weather or clock widget on top with 6 folders of apps on the bottom like how I do on my android phone
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Why do you need two clocks?

 

[1193001]

Why do you need two clocks?

not really a clock its a weather widget if i click on it, it goes to weather app, I just chose the clock version, edit changed it quick, I downloaded a new launcher and well it did not change all my widgets correctly, its fixed. I was using samsung launcher but I started enjoying lawnchair launcher

 

[lugworm]

Imagine opening a song, and then having a "use as ringtone" option ! If only.....

 

[1193001]

Imagine opening a song, and then having a "use as ringtone" option ! If only.....

yep my s8

 

[DeepIn2U]

I'm going to take an educated guess, the vast majority of IOS don't care to act like sysadmins on their IOS devices. This is an edge case that by virtue of the internet, seems like it's a generic use case. This means it can be done, but differently than android.

exactly my educated guess and experience. I work with Windows and macOS almost daily in corporate support, and at the end of the day orduring I don’t wish to troubleshoot hack and tweak a mobile OS daily to get it to work the way I want or keep changing it as daily feelings/thoughts keep changing what I want. The key part is I want all features and functions to work. Consistently. Exactly as promised. Reliably and robustly.

I like what Sony offers with Android, they have a better ecosystem of products most consumers can use - some not offered internationally or no longer (music, gracenote an early Shazam contender, pictures & phot book publishing, music library purchasing, speakers headsets, home theatre, TVs, etc.

 

[DNichter]

Not the same thing. It's like decluttering the living room by putting things in boxes in your living room (iOS way) vs putting them in the garage (Android way). Also, more work with iOS for upkeeping since newly installed apps automatically get put on home screen while on Android it's optional.

How? It’s one folder, one garage as you say. You guys act like this is some life changing difference. It’s a place that houses all your apps, pretty simple.

 

[mi7chy]

How? It’s one folder, one garage as you say. You guys act like this is some life changing difference. It’s a place that houses all your apps, pretty simple.

That only applies if living in the garage. For others, they keep most often used items in the living room (home screen) and put less often used items in the garage (app drawer).

 

[DNichter]

That only applies if living in the garage. For others, they keep most often used items in the living room (home screen) and put less often used items in the garage (app drawer).

That’s exactly what I do. I don’t belief it’s as philosophical as you try to sound.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Discovered from personal use then found it documented in app support notes. That's why iOS/iPadOS isn't a computer replacement.

https://docs.termius.com/faq/troubleshooting/cant-run-in-the-background
"Termius, like most of other apps, can’t run in the background due to a restriction of iOS. The latest version of iOS stops the app’s background processes almost immediately (in 20 or 30 seconds), while older versions would allow them to run for 2 - 3 minutes."

interesting. I’m not a programmer and you’ve found something that matches your presumption by a specific application and developer that surmises other iOS apps in iOS 13 are restricted from background app processes. In my view, again I’m not a developer by any means, seems a bit like reality for filling its own prophecy here.

what I mean by this is the developer(s) in the link you’ve shown for Terminus - seemingly a powerful SSH client with command line tools for RDP sessions - yet even the developer does not specify what the exact restriction is - just background process. Yes I know I’m answering my own question here yet what I should state what I mean is what is the APIs that are used and/or restricting the app from running in the background.

seems there are 2 parties to this issue and one is pointing the blame on the other yet not telling teacher what events led to the action for blame.

Apple has a number of APIs centred around: Power (battery use), Performance, and Privacy as shown via their WWDC Developer sessions.

the use cases I’m able to find, potentially (I don’t know for certain here),could be based on these use cases:

Downloading & Uploading Files,
Periodic Updates,
New Server Data,
And possibly navigation.

It would seem that Terminus requires APIs that do not fall into the above category.

Background Processing Tasks,
Background App Refresh Tasks.

The 1st gives several minutes of processing time (at system friendly times; of course we don’t know how many background or foreground tasks are being run by a user at any given time so similar to Tron’s MCP calles CPU Monitor or CPUM for short is in charge here).

Due to this there is a specific note: “The system may choose to terminate your task early in case the system decides the conditions are no longer sufficient for you to run your task.”

terminus maybe one of those apps that is designed to be run all the time without regard to processor overload, power consumption or user privacy isn’t he background. It’s been designed for system admins or users that want background app all the time.

I think the way such an app is designed and thus restricted in one mobile OS vs another runs to the very core of the direction of each core OS. I feel it also runs over more than average users on Android who are unaware to check what services or system calls are running in the background using power or hogging memory and they don’t understand what’s going on since it’s not readily identifiable. Not I’m saying end user here in my surmise not the developer.

I’d like to see what interactions such developer had with Apple and their replies.

cheers

 

[nutritious]

If we could get Live Tiles like we had on Windows 10 Mobile (or the Win10 Start screen) I would be very, very happy.

It's cute how much you care about your phone interface

 

[I7guy]

interesting. I’m not a programmer and you’ve found something that matches your presumption by a specific application and developer that surmises other iOS apps in iOS 13 are restricted from background app processes. In my view, again I’m not a developer by any means, seems a bit like reality for filling its own prophecy here.

what I mean by this is the developer(s) in the link you’ve shown for Terminus - seemingly a powerful SSH client with command line tools for RDP sessions - yet even the developer does not specify what the exact restriction is - just background process. Yes I know I’m answering my own question here yet what I should state what I mean is what is the APIs that are used and/or restricting the app from running in the background.

seems there are 2 parties to this issue and one is pointing the blame on the other yet not telling teacher what events led to the action for blame.

Apple has a number of APIs centred around: Power (battery use), Performance, and Privacy as shown via their WWDC Developer sessions.

the use cases I’m able to find, potentially (I don’t know for certain here),could be based on these use cases:

Downloading & Uploading Files,
Periodic Updates,
New Server Data,
And possibly navigation.

It would seem that Terminus requires APIs that do not fall into the above category.

Background Processing Tasks,
Background App Refresh Tasks.

The 1st gives several minutes of processing time (at system friendly times; of course we don’t know how many background or foreground tasks are being run by a user at any given time so similar to Tron’s MCP calles CPU Monitor or CPUM for short is in charge here).

Due to this there is a specific note: “The system may choose to terminate your task early in case the system decides the conditions are no longer sufficient for you to run your task.”

terminus maybe one of those apps that is designed to be run all the time without regard to processor overload, power consumption or user privacy isn’t he background. It’s been designed for system admins or users that want background app all the time.

I think the way such an app is designed and thus restricted in one mobile OS vs another runs to the very core of the direction of each core OS. I feel it also runs over more than average users on Android who are unaware to check what services or system calls are running in the background using power or hogging memory and they don’t understand what’s going on since it’s not readily identifiable. Not I’m saying end user here in my surmise not the developer.

I’d like to see what interactions such developer had with Apple and their replies.

cheers

That is an impressive amount of digging into detail.

 

[DeepIn2U]

That is an impressive amount of digging into detail.

Thanks, sincerely.

I’ve always wanted to code for iOS/WatchOSyet excuses of dedicated myself to employers that never valued my tenacity, work ethic and never affording (& keeping a supported Mac) kept me from this. Mostly simplistic explanation of XCode and concepts.

somehow this guys post triggered me to find out for myself, mostly as I support MDM implementations for iOS and Android and never heard of this restriction so I wanted to find out as best I could.

actually helped me find an item along background processes for messaging that’s been nagging me on iOS (txt/iMessage) that I’ll write into Apple & on Twitter - we should send a message when out of signal and I’d like iOS to send it without my interaction when I’m in signal or on Wi-Fi again (TTC Subway travels).

 

[M3gatron]

I don’t find it ugly. It’s a folder that holds all your apps. I do different types of apps each page and I search via spotlight. Works fine, an app drawer definitely isn’t needed.

Well that's because you obviously don't know how a proper implementation of an app drawer looks and works on an Android phone.
Also there's a limit of how many apps can be placed in a folder on iOS and how many apps you can view per Folder page. No such limitation exists with app drawers. Also apps are automatically placed and arranged in the app drawer.

 

[BvizioN]

Widgets on home screen and moving wallpaper
> android

scroll left to right
> windows phone

I personally am looking forward to transporting back to 2010 lol

jokes aside it’s always nice to have options to mess with your phone design

Anyone who understands Apple knows that it's not about first!!
One of the reasons I love Apple.

 

[falainber]

So the big technical and innovative advantage that Android phones have over Apple is wallpaper management.

Interesting.
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I think - but when the A14 chip come out - I think that gap opens up quite a bit. Snapdragons are stock implementations of ARM. Apple has done a lot of investment and work regarding this proprietary implementation of this set on their SOC.
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I find it amusing that the Android fanboys talk about all of this technical advantages the Android platform has over the iPhone to include better icon management, better mutlti-tasking and "wallpaper management" for a small screen phone platform.

Then when you get to tablets with more memory, storage and screen space -- and all those Android advantages to turn to **** in comparison to the iOS tablet implementation. On a tablet all of these "advantages" for Android should be even more apparent - especially multi-tasking and application quality --- yet it all evaporates and the Android is relegated to be useful just on the small screen phone platform.

Their logic doesn't execute.

You just have no clue about Android tablets. Samsung DeX on tablets is way more advanced than iPadOs. Better GUI, better multitasking and more RAM.
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Anyone who understands Apple knows that it's not about first!!
One of the reasons I love Apple.

There is first and there is a decade ahead. Apple is a decade behind. They'd better come up with really amazing widgets to compensate their customers for depriving them the basic GUI elements for so long.

 

[BvizioN]

Gotta add those features that Android has had since 2008....

Yep. The ones Android copied from the iOS jailbreak community.
Spot on.