iOS 14 Could Offer Home Screen Widgets, Wallpaper Customizations

[chucker23n1]

Too bad it doesn't translate into anything in terms of usage experience vs Android phones.
According to Anandtech the S20 series provide by far the most responsive and smooth experiences you can get on a mobile phone today.

From Anandtech:

Hopefully all that saved die space can be invested back into caches, maybe we’ll finally see an 8MB L3 to compete with Apple?

The Snapdragon 865 A77 cores look pretty amazing. Sure, there’s a still a performance gap to Apple’s A13 CPU cores, but the Arm cores are also significantly more efficient now- at least closing the gap with Apple on that metric.

 

[The Game 161]

That doesn't make sense. Widgets and wallpaper customization don't slow down android phones at all. These features mostly only use RAM and that is something Android phone have in abundance these days.


That's something someone that is not really familiar both platforms would say.
These 2 things are quite minor, Apple is basically just making baby steps towards Android.
Also I don't understand the idea that Apple would better implement these feature, what does that mean exactly?

Considering have had android phones most years until this year no think you will find what I said is accurate

Widgets do slow your phone down on android and of course makes your battery worse

 

[M3gatron]

If benchmarks are all that matter to you that's great, I won't judge. Anyway the S20U is still smoother in day to day usage.

 

[The Game 161]

Too bad it doesn't translate into anything in terms of usage experience vs Android phones.
According to Anandtech the S20 series provide by far the most responsive and smooth experiences you can get on a mobile phone today.

For now yeah...it will slow down with time that’s for sure.

Plus 120z is why it’s smooth

 

[chucker23n1]

If benchmarks are all that matter to you that's great, I won't judge. Anyway the S20U is still smoother in day to day usage.

In comparing processors? Yes, benchmarks matter.

That quote you gave referred not to the overall phone experience, but to the screen and touch controller. You took that way out of context. Here's the context back:

The biggest improvement is user experience though it’s the 120Hz display mode. It’s just a fantastic addition to the phones, and really makes scrolling content that much more fluid. Along with the 240Hz touch input sampling rate of the phones makes these by far the most responsive and smooth experiences you can get on a mobile phone today.

Which — it is a fair criticism that the iPhone doesn't have 120Hz yet. But it has nothing to do with the processor, and it's only one factor among many of overall user experience.

 

[glambutnerdy]

IMO don’t see the whole point of widgets on an iPhone. I feel that more customising options would make the whole iPhone layout seem more messy, like Android. One of the many reasons people love iPhones are for the simple, clean layout it has (especially in comparison to Android phones!)

 

[philpalmiero]

Apple needs to add an air sniffer to detect coronavirus in the miasma. Then I’ll buy a new iPhone.

 

[M3gatron]

Considering have had android phones most years until this year no think you will find what I said is accurate

Well then you obviously never used them to their full potential if you think all that's missing is split screen and picture in picture.

Widgets do slow your phone down on android and of course makes your battery worse

How do widgets slow down android phones(which is quite a generalization). Can you give a technical explanation?
Also most widgets on Android hardly have a negative effect on battery. On my phone they use below 1% per charge cycle.
The Feedly news widget shows with 0.1% battery usage in the last 10 hours.
There are custom widgets that use more battery but they are in single digits percent wise so nothing crazy.

 

[terrence1019]

As long as they don’t slow down the phone like they clearly do on android. I’m sure apple will do it so you can’t add loads....

not much is missing on iPhone now from android...spilt screen and picture in picture. Not much else

I think they're waiting for better RAM management or will increase RAM in order to implement Split Screen and PiP in an effective and efficient "Apple" way.

 

[M3gatron]

Which — it is a fair criticism that the iPhone doesn't have 120Hz yet. But it has nothing to do with the processor, and it's only one factor among many of overall user experience.

It has everything to do with the phone itself which is what matters.
So according to Anandtech the S20 provides a more fluid/smoother experience and that's what users see day to day not benchmarks.

That quote you gave referred not to the overall phone experience

It referred to the overall phone usage experience, plain and simple.

 

[chucker23n1]

I think they're waiting for better RAM management or will increase RAM in order to implement Split Screen and PiP in an effective and efficient "Apple" way.

That's clearly not it. iPads with less RAM than iPhones have split screen and PiP. It's the lack of screen space.

 

[The Game 161]

Well then you obviously never used them to their full potential if you think all that missing is split screen and picture in picture.



How do widgets slow down android phones(which is quite a generalization). Can you give a technical explanation?
Also most widgets on Android hardly have a negative effect on battery. On my phone they use below 1% per charge cycle.
The Feedly news widget shows with 0.1% battery usage in the last 10 hours.
There are custom widgets that use more battery but they are in single digits percent wise so nothing crazy.

I certainly used them to their full potential there’s just nothing note worthy about android than I can’t do on my iPhone. I fail to see what else is actually something worth missing

Picture in picture was great but that’s all I miss. Spilt screen would be nice but is that useful on a phone? Not really. iPad screen size is when it’s useful

That’s great you’re isn’t an issue battery life wise but my S10 plus battery life was trash. Widgets played a factor in this as it was updating more often.

Notifications was an embarrassment due to taking 15 mins for notifications to come through and all came through at once when you woke up the phone. Sorry but no don’t miss that at all

 

[M3gatron]

I think they're waiting for better RAM management or will increase RAM in order to implement Split Screen and PiP in an effective and efficient "Apple" way.

What does an effective and efficient "Apple" way mean in comparison to Android's implementations of those features. What could Apple do better? I'm curious.
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I certainly used them to their full potential there’s just nothing note worthy about android than I can’t do on my iPhone. I fail to see what else is actually something worth missing

So you haven't used them to their full potential. Thank you for the confirmation.

Picture in picture was great but that’s all I miss. Spilt screen would be nice but is that useful on a phone? Not really. iPad screen size is when it’s useful

More than anything it sounds like that's one of the very few Android features you know.

That’s great you’re isn’t an issue battery life wise but my S10 plus battery life was trash. Widgets played a factor in this as it was updating more often.

You made quite a big generalization which you obviously can't support.
The S10 is not Android and even on the S10 not all the widgets or widgets in general negatively
affect the battery life

Notifications was an embarrassment due to taking 15 mins for notifications to come through and all came through at once when you woke up the phone. Sorry but no don’t miss that at all

That was just an effect of you not knowing how to use the phone. It was most likely set to synchronize once it's unlocked.

 

[M3gatron]

For now yeah...it will slow down with time that’s for sure.

Why is that for sure? Why with the S20?
The S10 got faster/smoother after the update for Android 10 for example.

Plus 120z is why it’s smooth

The 120hz, the possessor, the RAM, the GPU, the storage. It's an entire system and that's what matters: the end experience. The processor doesn't seem to bottleneck the speed and fluidity of the device one bit.

 

[The Game 161]

So you didn't used them to their full potential. Thank you for the confirmation.

please elighten me on how you use android to it’s full potenial. Because I’m as big a power user as you can do using tech so i would love to know what else you actually think is useful on android. Most phones do the same things and what you can do on android is not much difference what you can do on the iPhone.

More than anything it sounds like that one of the very feat Android features you know.

Think you will find it’s one of the few android features that aren’t just a gimmick.

You made quite a big generalization which you obviously can't support.
The S10 is not Android and even on the S10 not all the widgets or widgets in general negatively
affect the battery life

i fail to see how you came to that opinion, just because i mentioned the S10 plus doesn’t mean it’s any different with any other android phone. It’s no different than anything else out there.

That was just an effect of you not knowing how to use the phone. It was most likely set to synchronize once it's unlocked.

OHHH so it’s my fault that android can’t send notifications on time? Yeah sure....I tried plenty of different ways to get notifications to appear as they should...it’s a known issue called android doze. It happens to many people and it’s just a massive flaw In the android system. Nothing one person can do to stop it....if you get a lot of notifications then android isn’t a good option unless you want to be spammed each time you wake your phone up.

Lets also not forget after 50 notifications from one app they stop coming through all together.

 

[Justanotherfanboy]

Which — it is a fair criticism that the iPhone doesn't have 120Hz yet. But it has nothing to do with the processor, and it's only one factor among many of overall user experience.

Although, it is also fair to point out... the 120hz refresh rate lauded here is turned OFF by default; probably because then they couldn’t also claim high resolution, as their wackadoodle stab at ProMotion halves your resolution as soon as you turn it on.

I prefer the 120hz refresh rate tech used on iPad... zero comprises. I don’t mind waiting for that on iPhone (likely 6 months from now).

 

[The Game 161]

Why is that for sure? Why with the S20?
The S10 got faster/smoother after the update for Android 10 for example.



The 120hz, the possessor, the RAM, the GPU, the storage. It's an entire system and that's what matters: the end experience. The processor doesn't seem to bottleneck the speed and fluidity of the device one bit.

because android phones do slow down over time...any android past 2 years of usage will not be as smooth as it is out the box.

 

[macfacts]

Do you really find yourself wishing a lot that you could put two apps on a six-inch screen? Sounds awkward.

I'm watching Netflix and browsing MacRumors now on an android smartphone. I do it all the time.

 

[mi7chy]

Android users should use whatever they're comfortable using, but bringing up the processor is strange. Apple has been ahead of the competition for years.

Pointless comparing SoC performance since iOS is more single tasking while Android multitasking. Also, iPhones have a tendency to throttle and slow down with sustained workload like gaming. Always someone posting on MR that their iPhone 11 Pro slows down playing games and they have to use a flagship Android that handles throttling better.

 

[satchmo]

Maybe die hard iOS users should be more critical of Apple and stop waiting for Apple to implement a certain feature that has been available in Android forever, before they admit how much that would love to have that feature in iOS. It's pathetic how every time a new feature that iOS is finally going to get, that the diehard iOS user can finally admit, how much they actually like that feature from Android all these years. Are you really so protective of your dear Apple, that you just can't voice your own opinion on features you wish Apple would just take from Android. Who cares if it's stealing/copying from Android. If it's a good feature, it's worth adding to iOS. It's that simple, custom notifications, custom home screen icon placement/separate app drawer, widgets, etc...sure, why not? Add all of it.

I agree with the first part. Apple apologists are the worse. However, I think there’s a balance of customization and ease of use. Too many options make for a UI that can add bloat, for the sake of appearance.

 

[DNichter]

Normally a drawer that holds all the apps so they don't clutter the home screens. Android has that so you swipe up from the home screen to see all the apps. it basically allows you to utilize the home screens for widgets mostly.

Got ya. You can just make a folder called apps, put all your apps in it, and put it in the dock on iOS. Essentially the same thing.

 

[cmaier]

Too bad it doesn't translate into anything in terms of usage experience vs Android phones.
According to Anandtech the S20 series provide by far the most responsive and smooth experiences you can get on a mobile phone today.

For the first three months, and then it lags and falls apart like all android phones.

 

[I7guy]

Pointless comparing SoC performance since iOS is more single tasking while Android multitasking. Also, iPhones have a tendency to throttle and slow down with sustained workload like gaming. Always someone posting on MR that their iPhone 11 Pro slows down playing games and they have to use a flagship Android that handles throttling better.

Certainly a citation to an independent respected author would help here, rather than anecdotal experiences.
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I'm watching Netflix and browsing MacRumors now on an android smartphone. I do it all the time.

I do that all the time on my Ipads. Nice big screen. So?

 

[mi7chy]

Certainly a citation to an independent respected author would help here, rather than anecdotal experiences.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/samsung-galaxy-s20-s20-s20-ultra.2192082/post-28306178

"I just downloaded RBI Baseball 20 on my 11 Pro Max and after 5 minutes or so it became lag city."

"played 5 innings and silky smooth the whole time on the S20+. If the performance stays this way on the S20+ I may have to use it as my daily despite any authentication issues I have. I'm a baseball nut and it's great to have pocket baseball at my fingertips."

 

[I7guy]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/samsung-galaxy-s20-s20-s20-ultra.2192082/post-28306178

"I just downloaded RBI Baseball 20 on my 11 Pro Max and after 5 minutes or so it became lag city."

"played 5 innings and silky smooth the whole time on the S20+. If the performance stays this way on the S20+ I may have to use it as my daily despite any authentication issues I have. I'm a baseball nut and it's great to have pocket baseball at my fingertips."

Respected was the keywork, independent was also another keyword. That falls into the category of Anandtech, the Verge and not anecdotal.
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I agree with the first part. Apple apologists are the worse. However, I think there’s a balance of customization and ease of use. Too many options make for a UI that can add bloat, for the sake of appearance.

Generalized labels are the the worse. What you are really saying is the fringe "are the worse", independent of your phone of choice.