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iOS 14's Upcoming Anti-Tracking Prompt Sparks Antitrust Complaint in France
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Apparently not allowing companies do whatever the f they want (track us, steal our data, sell our data, invade our privacy), is now "anticompetitive". It's becoming just another slogan.
You have ZERO clue what you're talking about.
App developers are not responsible for anything because at the point of someone declining to give permission the IDFA returns nothing so there is no way to track a user by an advertiser other than your IP address.
In iOS 14 Apple added something called the SKAdNetwork which allows for attributing INSTALLS of apps from ads ONLY, but all ads are not app installs and its only for the specific advertising network not cross network so it's not a huge help.
If an app has advertising in the app it has to adhere to these rules of iOS 14 as soon as Apple decides to enforce them. This isn't that hard to understand.
Thats not even close. This is not like someone breaking into your house. You're downloading and using an app for FREE in exchange for ads being in the app so the person who made the app can make some money for their hard work. No one is telling you to click those ads.
what a world have we become? not tracking you is anti-competitive? gimme a break ...
It's not the honor system, by you turning that option on your disabling the IDFA for everything. You're doing the do not track for every app at once. That is your "wall against all of them".
As a developer I don't get to pick and choose to obey that setting, if you turn it off your device when you open an app returns nothing for IDFA so to a advertiser you look like no one.
Liberals, Left Wingers and Conservatives make themselves a joke of themselves when they make these nutty claims. It should be a requirement for apps by default. Why shouldn’t people know if their browsing history is being tracked?
Exactly. Who cares about customers nowadays anyways? F them over and collect the sweet cash. It is just beautiful.
I am not saying anti-customer is a good thing. I just state the fact. At the end of the day, that “magic” toggle could be designed to be just a placebo toggle and we may never know.
During the setup process you are given the option to send or not send information to Apple.
Keep in mind this is a private lawsuit, not one brought by the government of France (or its competition agency). That's an important difference - we similarly see lots of private antitrust suits in the US that the US government agencies wouldn't bring, and might not even support.
The French competition agency could be in a difficult position arguing for this given the government's strong focus on privacy protections - perhaps even stronger than the EU generally.
Why be sneaky about siphoning personal data with subterfuge? Why not allow a blatant opt-in option so the device owner can decide what data they want to share? Why? Because the advertisers and some app developers rely on shady practice of collecting data and selling it. Nothing is FREE. One way or another, you are definitely paying for any app you download.
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Hopefully, most people will disable ad tracking and keep themselves safe.In the meantime, users who do not want apps to be able to access their device's advertising identifier can go to Settings > Privacy > Tracking and toggle off Allow Apps to Request to Track.
Well, they are a part of the EU, and so I would think any privacy initiatives pushed forward by the EU would be something France should support.
I'd be happy to pay for any app that does what I want - other than things like banking apps where you have no choice but to use the one your bank supplies. In which case you have already paid for it!
Because the business model is to hope most people don't figure that out or are too lazy to do anything about it.
Flipping the default requires those companies to persuade people to turn on tracking. Which of course they may do by making it obligatory to use the app.
The problem with this statement is that it makes no sense. Apple doesn't have an advertising platform besides the basic App Store and News ads, so what would they even do with the information they're supposedly tracking?
I beg to differ but I do try to continually educate myself which is precicely why I chose to read Apple's wall o' text on the matter, you might want to read it as I suggested.
Settings -> Privacy -> Tracking -> Learn More
It clearly states "App developers are responsible for ensuring they comply with your choices". Why would Apple include this language unless there was a way around it? The 4th paragraph is filled with examples of what is not tracking though to any reasonable person it is clearly tracking.
You can cry all day long about the IDFA but what about screen shots, clipboard scraping, etc? Notice how when iOS 14 betas started showing clipboard scraping and all of a sudden everyone acknowledged "bugs" that would be fixed in the next version? None of those apps made it to iOS 14 release unchanged so only beta testers and tech minded consumers knew that these scumbag devs were taking spying to the next level! So don't be surprised when we the consumer don't believe one word the ad supported world has to say, its your own fault. The tracking warning doesn't fix everything but at least if a consumer is warned when opening apps that they are being tracked they can make an informed decision and privacy in general is advanced.
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You…just answered your own question, but that’s not all. For example, they engage in user tracking for business purposes, like determining their active user base (iOS devices do way more “phoning home” than most might think) and assigning a score to each device based on numerous factors to determine how “genuine” a device’s behavior is.
Sure, there’s good reason for it, but it’s still tracking. To quote myself:
Tracking is usually associated with unwanted behavior or sending away user information for purposes of spam calls or advertisements.
Continuity of service is not a definition associated with tracking. Tesla tracks it's cars for continuity of service. Cable/Fiber companies track their equipment for continuity of service. Apple tracks it's devices for continuity of service and a modicum of user experience. There is no way a modern infrastructure can function without two way communication to and from the devices it supports.
Tracking is tracking. Unwanted tracking is unwanted tracking.
Like I said, there’s good reason for what Apple does track. Doesn’t make it not tracking.
Doesn’t make it tracking either. You are taking a definition of a word that is a common definition and applying some spin on the definition. Tracking is usually associated with nefarious activities and not helpful activities.