iOS 15 Adoption Lower Than iOS 14 Over First Two Days, Says Mixpanel

[Bankage]

I've been checking every day since the release date. I thought Apple was throttling updates to avoid download bottlenecks. However, I just noticed after getting the same "14.8 - Your iPhone is up-to-date" message, the iOS 15 option shows at the bottom of the screen. I think the slow adoption rate is due to the change in semantics: updates to new versions of the same iOS are pushed, versus upgrades to the new iOS are user-requested.

 

[^^BIGMac]

This is a strange move for Apple. Not sure why they are doing this.

Cuz maybe they know 15 sucks.

 

[0ceans]

I've been checking every day since the release date. I thought Apple was throttling updates to avoid download bottlenecks. However, I just noticed after getting the same "14.8 - Your iPhone is up-to-date" message, the iOS 15 option shows at the bottom of the screen. I think the slow adoption rate is due to the change in semantics: updates to new versions of the same iOS are pushed, versus upgrades to the new iOS are user-requested.

Yeah I was going to say this. Wonder what prompted this change?

 

[gaximus]

Another possibility is that they’re perhaps not as confident that this release will be trouble-free as they have been in the past.

That could be, but I've been using it since beta 1, and its been more stable than some of Apple's other final releases.

 

[gaximus]

Cuz maybe they know 15 sucks.

Do you think Apple believes any of there products suck? They've forced much worse on us before.

 

[SactoGuy18]

I myself am staying off iOS 15.0 until iOS 15.0.1 appears. Let the others "take the arrows" for the bugs first.

 

[dysamoria]

But they gave you the 7/7+ 8/8+ and the SE all with TouchID

I don’t buy a phone every year. Can’t justify it. Can’t afford it. Don’t think anyone should.

Also, I’m a photographer. The phone I want, when I finally upgrade, is going to be the one with the most camera features. No TouchID on that model.

 

[fidelisoris]

Another iPhone user staying on 14.x due to my hesitant mistrust of whatever is baked into iOS 15; regardless of Apple backing off of the privacy backdoor, I don't think that's forever and I bet they just quietly flip that switch.

I'll take iPadOS 15 on the new iPad Mini I ordered because 1) I don't have a choice and 2) the new iPad will be an isolated gaming device with limited access to iCloud, no SMS or call sharing, and no shared picture library. WiFi only. Blocking enabled at my firewall via MAC. Nothing big brother scans on that device means a thing to them.

My iPhone however has SMS, phone, email, banking apps, credit card apps, security authenticator apps, etc. and I will guard that a lot more actively.

 

[I7guy]

Definitely glad MacRumors said "unofficial". 6 us of upgraded to ios 15 immediately. I like the updates that Apple incorporated into the release.

 

[DroidBro]

I mean it was a pretty dry update. Many of the bugs from the betas are still present in release, looking at you unlock with  watch…

Also as others have mentioned the csam privacy concern. Once there is an excuse to spy they will use it to look for other things they deem unacceptable.

 

[Momof2.1107]

Don’t upgrade!


The banner to upgrade stinks of legality on Apple's part. Has anyone upgraded automatically on iOS 15. Can you down grade a new phone to iOS 14.8? If I got a new phone I would read the agreement section very carefully now.


It used to be you had to go to a judge and get a search warrant to look for evidence to lay a charge. Maybe Apple lawyers got nervous after all the objections and figured there maybe some legal jeopardy for them unless the user actually had to deliberately click on the link and read the banner to download the scanning iOS.


The whole things stinks and I’m glad I’m stuck on iOS 14.7.1. But the mechanism was probably there from 14.3 which means that you Stacy may end up here with the most privacy. You can’t even get 14.7.1 anymore as Apple stopped signing it.


Again, don’t upgrade!

I’m not. I not missing out on anything. Nothing in iOS 15 has interested me. The good thing about this jailbreak is that even if I search for an update I can’t update without iTunes.

 

[Souponastick270]

I don’t buy a phone every year. Can’t justify it. Can’t afford it. Don’t think anyone should.

Also, I’m a photographer. The phone I want, when I finally upgrade, is going to be the one with the most camera features. No TouchID on that model.

I get ya, there isn’t a need to upgrade every year, I’m still using my 7+ but in your first comment you implied that you were using a 6S because Apple took away TouchID - I was saying there have been a number of phones since the 6S with TouchID and the 2020 SE still has TouchID, now you’re on about cameras ?

 

[Zeus65]

Can’t believe the number of times I’ve seen CSAM mentioned in this thread, as if that’s an issue average users care about.

it’s about the fact they changed how the user is notified/prompted to upgrade. That’s it. That’s the reason.

I have 3 iPhones, 2 iPads and 1watch waiting to be updated.. because of that. If enough people do care it does add up. And I forgot to add this is the first release ever I've held back on. I've learnt to wait at least 12 hours after release as a 10 version release soft bricked my iphone 6s. But besides that first time ever I'm holding back.

 

[dysamoria]

I get ya, there isn’t a need to upgrade every year, I’m still using my 7+ but in your first comment you implied that you were using a 6S because Apple took away TouchID - I was saying there have been a number of phones since the 6S with TouchID and the 2020 SE still has TouchID, now you’re on about cameras ?

🤷🏽‍♂️ It’s a many-faceted issue and it keeps getting more frustrating over time. Every time I compromise, I regret it. I’m sick of feeling like I have to give up one positive to get an unrelated positive.

Change is the only constant, but many decisions being made by Apple (since 2013) don’t make a lot of sense from a usability perspective. Such as releasing new flagship phones without TouchID during a pandemic where masking is still wise...

 

[mr_jomo]

Don't know about you all - but my devices are basking permanently in the (perceived at least) glorious privacy that is 14.8 🤣

 

[Momof2.1107]

Don't know about you all - but my devices are basking permanently in the (perceived at least) glorious privacy that is 14.8

I have one better. Mine is at 14.1

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

🤷🏽‍♂️ It’s a many-faceted issue and it keeps getting more frustrating over time. Every time I compromise, I regret it. I’m sick of feeling like I have to give up one positive to get an unrelated positive.

Change is the only constant, but many decisions being made by Apple (since 2013) don’t make a lot of sense from a usability perspective. Such as releasing new flagship phones without TouchID during a pandemic where masking is still wise...

I mean the pandemic started in March 2020, they removed touch ID from the iPhone X in 2017, and by March 2020 the iPhone 12 series had already been mostly finalized.
Hell, by March 2020 the iPhone 13 series was probably quite close to being finalized as well, so pandemic related features probably weren’t in the question for the hardware.
Remember, Apple has at least The next three to four years of iPhones quite close to pinned down, and unless something catastrophic happens in manufacturing, then usually their plans don’t change very much.
Features are more likely to just be pushed back than pushed forward, that’s just how it works.

 

[0111587]

I mean the pandemic started in March 2020, they removed touch ID from the iPhone X in 2017, and by March 2020 the iPhone 12 series had already been mostly finalized.
Hell, by March 2020 the iPhone 13 series was probably quite close to being finalized as well, so pandemic related features probably weren’t in the question for the hardware.
Remember, Apple has at least The next three to four years of iPhones quite close to pinned down, and unless something catastrophic happens in manufacturing, then usually their plans don’t change very much.
Features are more likely to just be pushed back than pushed forward, that’s just how it works.

I don't recall any Covid-20 pandemic.
Covid-19 started in 2019.

 

[BugeyeSTI]

I held off updating to iOS15 due to all the issues people were listing on the forum but Saturday I decided to give it a try considering I could downgrade to 14.8 if it didn't go well. As it turns out, iOS15 has performed great! The only "bug" I seem to have is tap to wake is a little hit or miss which to me is minor and it wasn't like 14.8 didn't have minor or bugs.

 

[dysamoria]

I mean the pandemic started in March 2020, they removed touch ID from the iPhone X in 2017, and by March 2020 the iPhone 12 series had already been mostly finalized.
Hell, by March 2020 the iPhone 13 series was probably quite close to being finalized as well, so pandemic related features probably weren’t in the question for the hardware.
Remember, Apple has at least The next three to four years of iPhones quite close to pinned down, and unless something catastrophic happens in manufacturing, then usually their plans don’t change very much.
Features are more likely to just be pushed back than pushed forward, that’s just how it works.

Yeah, I don’t dispute your points here. That’s why I find it odd that people think Apple made a last minute change to the Watch.

The thing is, they should’ve been working on TouchID in the sleep/wake/power button for phones as well as the iPads that they DID put it in. From the start, prior to the pandemic.

The inconsistency of features across their devices is problematic. Is it a desire to complicate the product line for some weird notion of how best to capture more of the potential market? Is it siloing of development groups and therefore a failure of parity across product lines? Is it an internal struggle between factions in Apple (pro-FaceID vs pro-TouchID)?