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Not surprising but how Apple will utilize that there is no small screen defice and all are 3 GB RAM and up? What compelinig features they bring that A9 with 2 GB can not handle?
 
There are multiple reasons. I'll give you one.
I have 2 iPads. The Mini 4, and the Pro 10.5". So the Mini is a backup, mainly used for web browsing and ebooks, so even if upgrades stop it should suffice for a couple years. In my case, upgrading to a 5 would just be spending money.
I disagree! The Mini 4 is dog slow for searching for ebooks (Apple Books) and caching the books. The Mini 5 is much faster. Believe me I used to have a Mini 4 until I upgraded and it’s much much faster!
 
I've not bought a Google branded phone since I tried out the Nexus several years ago. It got no upgrades. TI may have got out of the mobile space, but a company the size of Google could have provided some upgrades. Negotiate to get some source code and maintained it for at least 1 more version.
I believe Nexus phones only had 2 years of OS upgrades, but that was actually pretty good as back then, most Android phones only get one or no upgrades at all.
 
5 years is a decent support time and the phones will continue to work, the bad part is some apps drop support. you can always come to the modern world with a used more modern phone so no one loses really. One would worry only about security updates.

I’m sure many won’t believe me, but i’m blown away by the speed and stability of my iPad 5 A9 chip on iOS 14. It feels no different to my iPhone XS, with the exception of reloading apps more with the limited ram.

iPad Air 2 here, 1 year older, and has A8X chip. Everything seems fine, I like it to be snappier but this could have been released today and really no issues. Looks like the performance gains are diminishing.
 
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Apple's upcoming iOS 15 operating system, which we expect to see unveiled in June, is rumored to be dropping support for a few of Apple's older iPhones.

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According to French site iPhoneSoft, iOS 15 will not be able to be installed on the iPhone 6s, the iPhone 6s Plus, or the 2016 iPhone SE, all of which have an A9 chip.

The iPhone 6s and 6s Plus were introduced in 2015 and are now more than five years old, so it is not a surprise that the smartphones are not expected to be able to run iOS 15. If the rumors are true, these iPhones will not be able to be updated past iOS 14.

iOS 15 will run on the iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, and all newer iPhones that have been released, making it compatible with devices that have an A10 chip or newer. The seventh-generation iPod touch has an A10 chip, so it should be able to run iOS 15.

As for the iPad, iPadOS 15 could perhaps drop support for the iPad mini 4 (2015), iPad Air 2 (2014), and iPad 5 (2017), equipped with A8, A8X, and A9 chips, respectively. All newer iPads are expected to support the update.

This is the second time that we've heard that iOS 15 will not be available on the iPhone 6s and the iPhone SE, as Israeli site The Verifier said the same thing back in November.

Article Link: iOS 15 Rumored to Drop Support for iPhone 6s and 2016 iPhone SE
The problem is not that Apple no longer supports the devices, but that Apple does not offer an SE alternative with fingerprint. Face recognition is a nice feature, but unfortunately not useful in these days. Cool would be both. If face recognition doesn't work because of a mask, then the fingerprint should be used. I also need a small and light device. As a frequent runner, unfortunately not only my watch is enough, but I also need my phone on the go. On the bike, I want to be able to operate my phone with one hand. The iPhone mini is the right approach, which should be pursued further.
 
Just got my old 6S Plus put back together yesterday after about a year of it being broken. 14.3 works well on it.
 
My theory is that software can be made to support backwards compatibility unless it's technologically not feasible, which may be the case -- I do not know. I guess the question becomes why would Apple not allow it to work on these devices iif it is feasible to do so?
It can take effort to maintain compatibility. Software can become riddled with special cases and workarounds, which reduces performance and reliability, and slows development of new features. This has to be maintained across the entire software stack (including build tools, which may not even run on new hardware).
 
If you’re still rocking either phones mentioned in the title of this thread I have no sympathy 💐 for you. move on
My 6s is great. It's fast, robust, has a lot of free storage, good battery life, runs all the software I need, has touchid, and has a built-in headphone jack (no dongles to lose, no wireless headphones to attract muggers, and you always know where the phone is when travelling). I don't see any need to "upgrade" it in the near future (even if it can't run IOS 15/16). I'm happy to get the security patches for a few more years and just enjoy using the phone :)
 
The problem is not that Apple no longer supports the devices, but that Apple does not offer an SE alternative with fingerprint. Face recognition is a nice feature, but unfortunately not useful in these days. Cool would be both. If face recognition doesn't work because of a mask, then the fingerprint should be used. I also need a small and light device. As a frequent runner, unfortunately not only my watch is enough, but I also need my phone on the go. On the bike, I want to be able to operate my phone with one hand. The iPhone mini is the right approach, which should be pursued further.

ummm there is the SE2 for a fingerprint device
 
4 Years since it was released, but only a bit over 3 since they stopped selling it "new" and less than 2 years since it was available refurbished from the Apple store (in fact it is still listed just as out of stock). Which is considerably shorter than what iPhones and iPads have had in the past. That was my point.
If you’re buying an iPhone 6s/se 2-3 years into its cycle and especially refurbished, you obviously weren’t concerned about updates. That’s like buying an iPhone 7 now and then surprised when iOS 16 drops it. That isn’t a good point to make.

even if it is dropped, the apps will still work on iOS 14 for some time to come...thus making it still a viable device
 
If you’re buying an iPhone 6s/se 2-3 years into its cycle and especially refurbished, you obviously weren’t concerned about updates. That’s like buying an iPhone 7 now and then surprised when iOS 16 drops it. That isn’t a good point to make.

even if it is dropped, the apps will still work on iOS 14 for some time to come...thus making it still a viable device
Not sure why you are using the iPhone as an example, but even so your example is off by about two generations. I was referring to the 2017 iPad. So it would be closer to like buying an iPhone XR today and it not being supported with iOS 16 or even 15...
If it isn’t supported it would be one of the shortest timeframes an iPad has ever been supported for. BTW - I don’t even have a 2017 iPad. I do still have a couple of iPad Air 2s and I’m fine with those not being supported. It has been supported for 75 months so far vs only 45 months so far for the iPad 5 (2017). The iPad 4 was supported for 80 months, the 3 for 88 months and the iPad 2 for 100 months. Again that was my original point that it seemed short (and in fact is).
 
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My 6s is great. It's fast, robust, has a lot of free storage, good battery life, runs all the software I need, has touchid, and has a built-in headphone jack (no dongles to lose, no wireless headphones to attract muggers, and you always know where the phone is when travelling). I don't see any need to "upgrade" it in the near future (even if it can't run IOS 15/16). I'm happy to get the security patches for a few more years and just enjoy using the phone :)
Sell it or give it to a friend/relative and upgrade. I’m tired of the practicality argument. start enjoying life. With COVID and the economy I’m not thinking long term.
 
Man, I still remember getting my 6s+ and how much of an absolute unit it was compared to the 6+ I was used to using. Talk about a rocket, my goodness that thing had so much pure power it was unheard of! I will on die on the hill that the gains made from the 6 to the 6s are the biggest in iPhone history. It was like adding twin turbos to your car that didn't have them before.

Crazy thing is, when I later upgraded to the 7+, I didn't actually notice any difference speed wise, even though I know it was there somewhere. The A9 was just that good. I'd say it pretty much could hold its own with any chip up until about the A12, damn impressive.
 
Sell it or give it to a friend/relative and upgrade. I’m tired of the practicality argument. start enjoying life. With COVID and the economy I’m not thinking long term.
What is there not to enjoy life using a 6s? Tell me one thing I can’t do with my 6s a 12 can do. I also love headphones with cables and yes I listen while I charge my phone so dongle is not an option.
 
My 6s is great. It's fast, robust, has a lot of free storage, good battery life, runs all the software I need, has touchid, and has a built-in headphone jack (no dongles to lose, no wireless headphones to attract muggers, and you always know where the phone is when travelling). I don't see any need to "upgrade" it in the near future (even if it can't run IOS 15/16). I'm happy to get the security patches for a few more years and just enjoy using the phone :)
Same here. Love my 6s and so do other people I know. I keep changing the battery happily every two years and will keep it as long as I can.
 
Same here. Love my 6s and so do other people I know. I keep changing the battery happily every two years and will keep it as long as I can.
Please surrender that dinosaur to the nearest recycling center and make your way to Apple.com for an updated experience
 
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I can’t see Apple not updating the SE/6s/6s+. The phones are still capable of running the latest software unlike the 6/6+ which was crippled by poor ram.

However, if the SE/6s/6s+ does get iOS 15 then I think that is definitely the last update those phones will get besides security updates.
 
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Man my 2017 SE was a dog *until* I replaced the battery. It is now a whole new experience, super fast. Gonna do the same to my 2015 ipp 12.9 - also a dog. Lots of dropped calls and occasional inability to find LTE on our iphone 8+ so might try to replace the battery on that, too. Screw putting more $$ in apple’s pocket when the device is still viable.
 
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