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If something like that shines up when it’s resizing but then fades away after secs, this would be okay, but not when it’s static.

Somebody must have found Tims personal mushrooms in Apples HQ zen garden.
 
At Apple HQ they must start every meeting by having someone pick a slip of paper from the "Ideas & Gimmicks" box and then away they go...
 
Beta testers, please do us all a service and request for the reversal of this brain dead design decision.

Apple is definitely listening more than they have been recently, a prime example of that is their quick response to fixing the Battery Percentage indicator. If enough people submit feedback against this, there's a decent chance Apple will back track.
 
I really don’t think this was meant to be a default look — this has to be an option, most likely in accessibility. Just like the Adaptive Transparency toggle showing up for older AirPods — maybe this was a bug?
 
So, their attempts to disguise the camera have been such a success with the public that now they're going out of their way to highlight them?
 
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I like it - it briefly highlights/frames the area showing you info about music, AirPods, etc. Then it fades away. If I were PM, I would probably take a poll and make the default whatever won in the poll but make it an accessibility option that can be turned off since the feature seems to be so polarizing...
 
I like it - it briefly highlights/frames the area showing you info about music, AirPods, etc. Then it fades away.
Actually, it doesn’t fade away when you have something persistent up there like the now playing artwork and waveform.

The part that fades away for transient notifications is quite nice, but I’m not sure how I feel about the border that stays in place. It’s most prominent in apps that use a true black background, and I think part of the design logic is that it mirrors a similar border that’s shown around the pop-up controls that appear when you tap and hold. The consistency is nice in that regard, and the larger border is understandably important, but I’m not sure the smaller border needs to stay there all the time.

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I’m not really a fan of the change, but certainly don’t despise it the way some others in this thread do. I imagine I’d get used to it and simply learn to ignore it after a while.
 
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We already have a border around the dynamic island now with iOS 16.0.2
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.:rolleyes:
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We already have a border around the dynamic island now with iOS 16.0.2
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.:rolleyes:
Only in the timer app currently :rolleyes:

It is useful there and also for phone calls with the green border.

If you can't see the difference with the people complaining here, you're not trying.
 
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Another boneheaded, out of touch, clueless move by Apple. Who thought this ********* was a good idea and who gave this the green light? They should be working for jitterbug, not Apple.

The whole point of the island was to blend in and disappear, especially in dark mode or with a dark wallpaper. Now we have this horrific looking line around it and it's even around the widgets that expand after long pressing on the island.

It's also not a bug, it actually changes color based on the app icon being used, so sometimes it's blue, green, red, etc. Even with AOD on and using a oled black wallpaper there's a damn line around the island now.
Amd for people saying it's not a big deal because it only shows up when something is using the island well that's almost all the time depending on what you're doing. At home all day with an apple tv on? Then there's a line around the island all day nonstop. And with third party app support coming it will only get worse.

Hopefully this absolute garbage gets removed if there's enough uproar, I'm hopeful that all the big YouTubers trash this and apple takes notice. Also everyone who is running the beta needs to send negative feedback to Apple before they make this thing permanent. In my view it's totally ruined the dynamic island and everything that made it so good. Now it's this obtrusive, hideous, distracting thing that defeats its own purpose.
 
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Why do you say that? Just curious…

With the grey outline, it looks a bit clunky, but without, you'd not only lose the very interesting animations that clearly Apple put a lot of time into, but it also looks like random things (album art, e.g.) is just floating in the middle of your status bar. Just a personal preference, sure others would disagree!
 
With the grey outline, it looks a bit clunky, but without, you'd not only lose the very interesting animations that clearly Apple put a lot of time into, but it also looks like random things (album art, e.g.) is just floating in the middle of your status bar.
Good point. It also occurs to me that it visually ties together elements that are on opposite sites of the camera cutout... Album artwork and sound form, or timer icon and countdown time are otherwise so far apart that they wouldn't make as much sense if they were just floating up there by themselves.
 
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First order of business is to let users adjust the level of background brightness on the always on display. It's way too bright currently.
 
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Yeah exactly. And I really do not like that. Every phone gets satellite connectivity but only the Pro line gets an entirely reinvented notification system? This is just distasteful to me as the most obvious example yet of Apple withholding something that could easily have gone to everyone just for the sake of the upsell.

Maybe it's a bad example. Maybe I'm all wrong. But "you no longer have to deal with a SIM card!" just soured the whole presentation for me, and then they spring an unnecessarily re-invented wheel on us to try to lure us to the otherwise relatively unremarkable Pro.
You realize Apple has been doing this since like… The days of the iPod?
Video playback came to the top-of-the-line fifth generation, iPod before moving down to the nano a couple years later.
MagSafe came to the MacBook Pro before spreading to the entire Mac laptop lineup. Same with a built-in webcam.
The Retina display started on the top-of-the-line MacBook Pro before spreading to all other Macs.
Face ID started on the $999 iPhone X before spreading to the $750 XR later.
Dynamic Island is no different
Starts on the Pro, rumored to come to all of the 15s next year
 
IslandBar (TouchBar 2.0)

Gone in 3-4 years and we'll look back on this and joke.
 
You realize Apple has been doing this since like… The days of the iPod?
Video playback came to the top-of-the-line fifth generation, iPod before moving down to the nano a couple years later.
MagSafe came to the MacBook Pro before spreading to the entire Mac laptop lineup. Same with a built-in webcam.
The Retina display started on the top-of-the-line MacBook Pro before spreading to all other Macs.
Face ID started on the $999 iPhone X before spreading to the $750 XR later.
Dynamic Island is no different
Starts on the Pro, rumored to come to all of the 15s next year

Every one of thise is a hardware feature that did not split the userbase needlessly over a basic feature.

All of those things are optional. Notifications are not. They should not have done this until they could bring it to all iPhones. This is just splitting their clearly already strained software development even further.
 
They should not have done this until they could bring it to all iPhones.
They could already do that. They are choosing not to because it is a great and apparently successful way to upsell people to the Pro over the regular model. I thought you understood that yesterday when we discussed it here.
 
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They could already do that. They are choosing not to because it is a great and apparently successful way to upsell people to the Pro over the regular model. I thought you understood that yesterday when we discussed it here.
Lmao you are truly classic.

You actually believe that Dynamic Island is getting people to upgrade.

The reason people are getting the Pro over the regular 14 is because Apple didn’t add virtually anything to the regular 14 over the regular 13, and the 14 Pro is greatly different in terms of features than the 13 Pro was over the 13……

it’s not that difficult to surmise.
 
Lmao you are truly classic.

You actually believe that Dynamic Island is getting people to upgrade.

The reason people are getting the Pro over the regular 14 is because Apple didn’t add virtually anything to the regular 14 over the regular 13, and the 14 Pro is not more different in terms of features than the 13 Pro was over the 13……

it’s not that difficult to surmise.
You know what's classic? Making assumptions.

It is one of the things that upsells the Pro. Along with other things. I never said it was the only thing.
 
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