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And I’m not sure why you’re chiming in when you were not addressed

Really.

You call someone petty for helping, which on an open forum and I just wondered why, so I asked you!

Anyone on here is perfectly entitled to do so. I don’t get the attitude Sorgo? If I’ve pi**ed you off because I asked you about something, maybe don’t expose such opinions like that that may come into question.
 
Beta 4 or RC @Realityck, quite excited to see what they’ve decided today.

Watch it roll in Thursday 😆😂
Macworld opinion about the current beta cycle:

As Apple wraps up the iOS 16 and macOS 13 development, the updates are fairly minor. We’ll get what might be the last update for iOS 16 or macOS 13, outside of security releases and bug fixes, in May. And they’re not terribly exciting.
  • iOS 16.5: This release doesn’t add much more than a Sports tab in Apple News and some Siri and Shortcuts functions for screen recording, plus the usual bug fixes and security improvements.
  • tvOS 16.5: Keeping in line with the iOS release, you’re not going to notice much in the way of new stuff on your Apple TV with this one.
  • iPadOS 16.5: The same features coming to iOS 16.5 come to your iPad.
  • macOS 13.4: Bug fixes and security updates, plus macOS gets the simplified beta installation process that came to iOS and iPadOS in 16.4.
 
Macworld opinion about the current beta cycle:

As Apple wraps up the iOS 16 and macOS 13 development, the updates are fairly minor. We’ll get what might be the last update for iOS 16 or macOS 13, outside of security releases and bug fixes, in May. And they’re not terribly exciting.
  • iOS 16.5: This release doesn’t add much more than a Sports tab in Apple News and some Siri and Shortcuts functions for screen recording, plus the usual bug fixes and security improvements.
  • tvOS 16.5: Keeping in line with the iOS release, you’re not going to notice much in the way of new stuff on your Apple TV with this one.
  • iPadOS 16.5: The same features coming to iOS 16.5 come to your iPad.
  • macOS 13.4: Bug fixes and security updates, plus macOS gets the simplified beta installation process that came to iOS and iPadOS in 16.4.

So no 16.6. If I’ve read that right, 16.5 is it before 17. Interesting.
 
either way I don't think these rapid updates are going to be a roaring success among iphone users.

No matter what happens, there will always be people that want to bitch about something. It's this mass entitlement which is cancerous now. Personally, I would rather have quick updates which mean I have a few minutes of downtime rather than wait for Apple to release at their usual update schedule.
 
No matter what happens, there will always be people that want to bitch about something. It's this mass entitlement which is cancerous now. Personally, I would rather have quick updates which mean I have a few minutes of downtime rather than wait for Apple to release at their usual update schedule.

Precisely.

Not every update is going to come like Santa’s sleigh - full of presents for good little boys and girls. Some are like spinach: you have to eat it so it’s best to hold your nose and make it fast.
 
As usual we don’t know that, what is more likely this beta cycle is the only May general release aside from the rapid response update yesterday. If 16.6 then starts with bug fixes it would be released almost July.

If I had to guess, we’ll see 16.5 released in the next two weeks (so by 5/16). That will be followed in the normal course (a day or 2) by the release of 16.6 b1. Let’s say that happens on 5/17. Beta 2 would then be released on 5/30 or 5/31 (allowing for the Memorial Day holiday here in the US). That gets Apple a full 2 betas of testing on 16.6 before most of us head off to iOS 17.0 on 6/5. 16.6 would likely go through 4 or 5 betas and be released just before the US Independence Day holiday on July 4th.
 
If I had to guess, we’ll see 16.5 released in the next two weeks (so by 5/16). That will be followed in the normal course (a day or 2) by the release of 16.6 b1. Let’s say that happens on 5/17. Beta 2 would then be released on 5/30 or 5/31 (allowing for the Memorial Day holiday here in the US). That gets Apple a full 2 betas of testing on 16.6 before most of us head off to iOS 17.0 on 6/5. 16.6 would likely go through 4 or 5 betas and be released just before the US Independence Day holiday on July 4th.

Sound logic 👍🏼
 
If I had to guess, we’ll see 16.5 released in the next two weeks (so by 5/16). That will be followed in the normal course (a day or 2) by the release of 16.6 b1. Let’s say that happens on 5/17. Beta 2 would then be released on 5/30 or 5/31 (allowing for the Memorial Day holiday here in the US). That gets Apple a full 2 betas of testing on 16.6 before most of us head off to iOS 17.0 on 6/5. 16.6 would likely go through 4 or 5 betas and be released just before the US Independence Day holiday on July 4th.
Isn’t that what I implied? Also the PB testers have 16.6 until the first PB availability of whats introduced June 5th becomes available sometime July. Not that most people will have their hands on that anytime soon.
 
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It is. I was simply explicating the full run out of the remaining betas.
Want to talk the future we can revisit predictions such as this earler one.

considering after 16.5 wraps up early May, it looks like we we might have maybe two more clean up beta cycles before 16.7? next late September/October 2023 yields the end of that and definitely deliver of what a lot of us are wondering is the future of iOS/iPadOS given the EU mods pertaining to App Store sales. Yes hearing we will return to making iOS better than simply new features is something we been wanting for some time. Who cant be excited for what WWDC 2023 OS progression brings. At the very least finally updated Apple TV app updated for iOS, iPadOS, tvOS, and MacOS. Yes more excitement this year for sure. :cool:
As always there will be some that follow the long 4 month journey with the dev previews of iOS, iPadO, tvO, and MacOS. While others readily trust the current releases to their ultimate completion.
 
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