I too am beginning to think of only buying physical media. Thrift stores may be a great place to find those old titles you were really fond of. I believe once the discs are gone, we’ll also see digital media purchases disappear, and then subscription prices are free to go sky high.
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iOS 17.2 and tvOS 17.2 Kill TV Show and Movie Wishlists With No Warning
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I have a bunch of movies/videos that I created. I had spent considerable time uploading them to my Apple TV library (in the iCloud Movies folder), they appeared on my Mac and iPhone. Great!
THEN on the next update, they are no longer visible on either device’s TV app. They are still in the iCloud folder.
I used to be able to put them in iTunes and play them from there, Apple stopped that with the switch to the Music app. Now it seem they have stopped allowing you to add personal items to the TV Library.
THEN on the next update, they are no longer visible on either device’s TV app. They are still in the iCloud folder.
I used to be able to put them in iTunes and play them from there, Apple stopped that with the switch to the Music app. Now it seem they have stopped allowing you to add personal items to the TV Library.
I do like your “follow the money” or “who stands to gain” approach.
Maybe still a stretch as this could result in less sales as people have a less clear way to keep a shopping cart of sorts wishlist…
But also likely they have info we don’t, maybe it’s by design and has been trialed and tested to have more sales.
Could be that not having an upfront wishlist option makes more people upsold to buy the movie/show right away to store it on some list already (purchased list).
Not a stretch at all since this is exactly what Apple is doing. When you “buy” a movie on Apple’s store you haven’t bought a movie. You’ve bought a lease that allows you to download and watch the movie from Apple’s servers. Apple can and will remove that content at some point. But more importantly, Apple only makes money initially when you “buy” content. However, when you subscribe to Apple services you pay for the same movie over and over and over and over again with ZERO expectation that you’ve actually bought anything and ZERO expectation that a specific movie or TV show will always be available to you.
You’re being driven towards subscriptions and away from leasing. If you want to own you need to buy physical media. That’s the only way to own a film or show.
I'm more frustrated for those movies what I already purchase on iTunes-app. Now these are disappeared and I dont have access for those anymore. Apple has come so arrogant and they dont really care about customers opinion. Reason why I move from MS to Apple around 20 yers ago, they have superior product compere to MS and Android. Now Apple has become the new Microsoft, whose products suffer from all kind of defects. Over the years, I have bought six Apple computers, five of these have been taken in for maintenance due to a failed screen, motherboard and hard drives. This is not normal. Mac quality has always been questionable, no matter who says what. Not forgetting crappy programs like Safari. I have seriously started thinking about a new Win 11 computer and Android phone. Only reason why Apple success so well is loyal customers. I dont think they have afford to lose us, but maybe I'm wrong.
All the purchased/redeemed content should be showing under movies or TV in the library for Apple TV app? Make sure you are using at least iOS/tvOS 17.1.
No, nothing there. And yes, latest version.
Does it show on your device / app or you just think content should be there?
I have a lot of redeemed shows. (digital copy TV/Movies) I have a free movie from iTunes (Hugo) that is showing in movies and under family genre as an example. This is for a USA usage. Can see this on the current beta of Apple TV app on 17.3 beta of iOS/IPadOS/tvOS and certainly on MacOS 14.4 beta also. Try looking up some of your bought iTunes titles in Apple TV App Store to see if it identifies them as purchased.
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Checked through my library and I see the same. It’s all there, including some content that got outside of the Apple Store.
Off topic but one feature I wish they would add is play lists for movies. Like right now it would be cool if we can have all our Christmas movies in a playlist.
Apple used to have the best playlist management for music available. Then they abandoned most of it. It seems that Apple doesn’t really want you to use your own playlists. It wants you to use Apple’s playlists instead, at least when it comes to music. And this anti-user playlist attitude seems to be extending to the movie and tv store side as well.
Apple TV sorely needs a way for people to manage the content they already own. The “up next” row is woefully insufficient.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
See earlier posts, particularly #64 and #39:
- download them from iCloud to your own local, "big drive" storage,
- take steps referenced in earlier posts to drop them into the AppleTV or iTunes app on your Mac or PC,
- turn on Home Sharing,
- watch them in the Computers app on AppleTV, Remote app on iDevices and/or sync any of them to iDevices to watch when away from home.
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
This is what "trusting strangers in the cloud to take care of one's stuff" looks like. Don't do it. If you want to buy digital movies, DOWNLOAD a copy of what you purchase to your own storage, entirely within your control. Then later, when the Studio decides to strip out the movie, you still have your own copy on your own storage- no cloud required.
Trusting the cloud is injecting complete strangers, usually motived by profit, into the connection between people and their media or data. It is akin to me offering to be your cloud wallet: send me your cash and I'll take care of it for you. What could go wrong?
I think the cloud has genuine usage, especially as a convenient way to exchange files. But I would NEVER entirely depend on a hard drive in the sky for anything... only as an optional extra. HDDs are dirt cheap. Buy all the storage you possibly need and get your cloud "everything" stuff on it. You may find- just like me- that you can do just fine with only free cloud storage (Apples, Dropbox, Google, etc) while leaning on local storage as we all did prior to the creation of "the cloud."
I imagine the creation of "the cloud" was a bunch of brains sitting around brainstorming how to better monetize HDD storage: could we get people to let us inject ourselves between them and their data? Could we get them to pay us ongoing rent as caretakers? Could we tier that rent to make ourselves a whole lot of money? Could we design updated consumer products in such ways that it seems to depend on storage we control, so they perceive they just about have to pay us that rent? Etc.
If your situation is stuff in a cloud is absolutely essential, buy a Synology NAS or similar and own your own cloud, where you are your own (not) stranger in charge of your cloud. Nothing bad can happen if you are in control of your own storage (and you also have a sound backup strategy). Let strangers in though and you are only asking for it.
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
This is readily available in the TV app on Mac and in iTunes on PC. Create the video playlists on the computer just like you create them for music, and the playlist will be a selectable option on AppleTV in the Computers app.
I use a video playlist to sync an ever-changing group of 10-30 movies onto an iDevice ahead of trips...
Delete a few from the playlist, add a few different ones, sync and the revised playlist will be on the iDevice... and also on the AppleTVs at home. I prefer this for iDevice syncs vs. choosing individual movies.
Instead of iPadMovies, that playlist or another could be called Christmas (or James Bond or Star Wars) and loaded up with Christmas movies... then accessed on AppleTVs as video playlists... or synched as a group to iDevices.
Playlists will NOT show in the AppleTV app on AppleTV, but it certainly does show in the Computers app (right off of my own TV screen)...
At my home, we pretty much only use the Computers app for media collection watching. The AppleTV app seems to be focused on selling more media. Computers is focused on enjoying one's own media- no marketing at seemingly ever twist & turn.
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