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iOS 17.2 and tvOS 17.2 Kill TV Show and Movie Wishlists With No Warning

There are so many areas you can have a wishlist these days. I started using the Up Next feature for it, but there is also Cheap Charts and I also use an app called TV Time, which is where I might fill a wishlist instead. Yeah it is nice to have it all in one place, but if you have a phone and app, it's still kinda in one place anyway.
 
The Wishlist feature (among others) never reached potential. I always figured Apple would capitalize on the feature and remind users as to when a movie/tv show became available (if it was a show that wasn't out yet) AND also notify you when that show went on sale. THAT would be a handy feature. Don't want to spend $19.99 on movie X when it's first out? No problem. Add it to your wishlist and Apple will notify you when it goes on sale so you can.

It would be useful AND they'd likely generate a hell of a lot more income while saving end users who don't mind waiting some money - everyone wins.
 
And while we're bitching about it - someone really really needs to go through and clean up the catalogs. I can't tell you how many times I've bought duplicate movies because a different version comes out - that isn't a different version at all usually - and it shows you as not owning it. So you say, "thats weird, I though I owned this movie - better buy it now while its on sale"... then come to find out you now own 2 versions of the same movie. It's horsechit.

And the other feature that sucks is not being able to categorize movies. The auto-categorization is horrible. It puts westerns into Other Interests... musicals into action movies... Christmas movies into dramas....

Come on Apple, get your chit together - it's been almost 20 years.
 
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I coincidentally discovered this yesterday when I went to look for some movies. The TV app is utter garbage for finding things, the experience is so much worse it’s not even funny. Apple must have been selling so few movies/shows that they don’t even care about it any more.

Also while we’re on this subject, when is the library section where all your purchases appear going to be improved? There‘s no ability to group anything, there’s no letters down the right to let you jump to places in the alphabet, the search searches everything rather than just what you own, things like the Classic Doctor Who stories are a total bulked together mess, etc.

Apple seem so desperate to push Apple TV+ that they’ll burn everything else down to do it.
 
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entropyfl said:
Just buy physical media guys! It’s the future!
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I really do wonder if we’ll see the day when you can no longer buy digital content. I could see the content owners wanting people to rent it per viewing or subscribe to their service.

I remember spending $80 for a Betamax copy of The Empire Strikes Back. So $30 for a 4K movie on UHD in today’s dollars seems like a steal.
 
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PaulW247 said:
My wish list still shows in iTunes for both movies and tv. I confirmed that I am on iOS 17.2.
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And again, how is this a positive? They could have just as logically made them only available by opening iPhoto on a Mac desktop. The whole point of this is that they don’t want you to make one time purchases. Clearly Apple is tired of leasing you movies and shows. Instead they want you to buy a bunch of subscriptions so that Apple can predict their bottom line quarter to quarter.
 
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fatTribble said:
I really do wonder if we’ll see the day when you can no longer buy digital content. I could see the content owners wanting people to rent it per viewing or subscribe to their service.

I remember spending $80 for a Betamax copy of The Empire Strikes Back. So $30 for a 4K movie on UHD in today’s dollars seems like a steal.
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Right. At the moment we’re at the opening of the “boutique blu-ray era.” Criterion, Kino Lorber, Flicker Alley and several others already exist. Companies that create and/or distribute high quality transfers of films in 4k UHD. The Warner Archive releases are also very high quality.

But be aware that many big studio 4k HDR releases are not mastered correctly and look worse than DVD. The Alien and Star Wars films are primary examples. Cash grabs likely created with AI software to upscale the existing scans rather than striking a new 4k transfer from the actual film elements.
 
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fatTribble said:
I really do wonder if we’ll see the day when you can no longer buy digital content. I could see the content owners wanting people to rent it per viewing or subscribe to their service.

I remember spending $80 for a Betamax copy of The Empire Strikes Back. So $30 for a 4K movie on UHD in today’s dollars seems like a steal.
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Ha I’m being biased as i work in the industry so I’m not a fan of streaming from a business POV as its dissrupted and lost people a lot of jobs over the years.

I think streaming will stick around and physical will continue its decline but at a slower rate. As an example 10 years ago over 74 movies sold over a million copies on dvd and last year only 4 sold over a million. physical was more profitable as a business till streaming picked up its momentum.
 
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This is a pretty braindead move by Apple. It's not like people didn't use these lists to remind themselves what movies they wanted to buy in the future when they came out. I'm not going to remember that I wanted to watch this or that 3-4 months later when the movie finally comes out or that I don't have time to watch it now but will watch it later. They've just guaranteed I'll be buying a lot fewer movies as I simply don't recall what was in that list nor can I add new items to remember in the future. What were they thinking?!? Let's come up with a way to decrease our revenue?
 
entropyfl said:
Ha I’m being biased as i work in the industry so I’m not a fan of streaming from a business POV as its dissrupted and lost people a lot of jobs over the years.

I think streaming will stick around and physical will continue its decline but at a slower rate. As an example 10 years ago over 74 movies sold over a million copies on dvd and last year only 4 sold over a million. physical was more profitable as a business till streaming picked up its momentum.
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It just got me reminiscing even further. James Bond sold over million dvd units in one day in 2003.

Oppenheimer being the biggest movie this year has sold only 30k units in its first month. Including all other retailers you could be generous and 100k in tota in a month. Which shows how far it’s fell.

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I just screen capped the items I had from the iTunes Music app on my MBP and will probably import to something like Just Watch or some other app to keep track.
 
entropyfl said:
Ha I’m being biased as i work in the industry so I’m not a fan of streaming from a business POV as its dissrupted and lost people a lot of jobs over the years.

I think streaming will stick around and physical will continue its decline but at a slower rate. As an example 10 years ago over 74 movies sold over a million copies on dvd and last year only 4 sold over a million. physical was more profitable as a business till streaming picked up its momentum.
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I get teased by a friend for still buying physical discs. I appreciate the better quality in general and like the idea of owning it for real. I realize it’s an uphill battle to get some to buy discs, but I wish studios would include more bonus materials and high quality transfers.
 
To get your Wishlist back temporarily, enough to take photos of it, you could buy another AppleTV from Apple, as the older tvOS on it would still have Movies app. Log in, take photos, wipe, return to Apple within the return window.

We have multiple Apple TV units and the one that hasn’t upgraded yet still shows the Wishlist. So I took photos of it at that point.

Point being the data isn’t lost, it’s still in your AppleID profile somewhere.
 
fatTribble said:
I get teased by a friend for still buying physical discs. I appreciate the better quality in general and like the idea of owning it for real. I realize it’s an uphill battle to get some to buy discs, but I wish studios would include more bonus materials and high quality transfers.
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The independent labels like shout factory do great extras and are worth checking out.
 
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kooky said:
To get your Wishlist back temporarily, enough to take photos of it, you could buy another AppleTV from Apple, as the older tvOS on it would still have Movies app. Log in, take photos, wipe, return to Apple within the return window.

We have multiple Apple TV units and the one that hasn’t upgraded yet still shows the Wishlist. So I took photos of it at that point.

Point being the data isn’t lost, it’s still in your AppleID profile somewhere.
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Demonstrating how user hostile the decision to mess with it was.
 
BoxOfSnoo said:
I was able to find mine in what's left of the Store app... but they are pushing so hard to discourage ownership by lumping together everything in the Apple TV app. I want to buy a show, not stream it, and Apple used to be a decent option for that. Time to go back to DVDs and Blu-Ray.
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Blue ray is the only option if you really want to be sure it is yours forever.
 
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XciteMePls said:
I'm so mad. I didn't realize I had my Apple TV 4K on Auto-Update. It just updated and I'm fuming.

I have over 800 PURCHASED movies on iTunes, so I have a big dog in this fight. And I have to say, this new update is horrible. The biggest gripe I actually have, to pile on to what everybody else has said, is the lazy and generic new UI. I perused the iTunes Movie store every week to see what discounts and promos they offered (for example, $4.99 movies to own). Now everything is unclear and kind of mashed together. And what's with the lack of a dedicated page for each movie? That's what pissed me off the most! As the "owner" of 800 movies, I enjoyed going through my collection like it was a virtual library and being able to click on a movie and see all the important info at a glance: Cast, Director, year, length, reviews, etc etc.

Now it's just... gone. You must click within the scrubber to bring up a condensed version that lacks so much info.

Apple, you keep doing **** like this and you're gonna lose me. And I've been a loyal customer for years. Enough is enough, respect your customers!
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So please help us provide official feedback to Apple. https://www.apple.com/feedback/apple-tv-app/
They have backtracked on decisions in the past. It's rare but they have (the new Safari tabs, for instance).
 
Surf Monkey said:
Agree. There’s a general rush back to physical media going on. CDs are becoming popular again too.
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I thought about switching back but after reading how fragile Blu-ray/4k discs are and how sensitive players can be to a speck of dust turned me off. What is the point of having a disc if I can’t play it and the process to rip is extremely complicated (need exact firmware of specific drives and windows releases).
 
cuestakid said:
I thought about switching back but after reading how fragile Blu-ray/4k discs are and how sensitive players can be to a speck of dust turned me off. What is the point of having a disc if I can’t play it and the process to rip is extremely complicated (need exact firmware of specific drives and windows releases).
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I haven’t had any trouble with playback on Blu-Ray 4k UHD discs. Fingers crossed I guess…
 
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