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Motawa

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Hm didnt they say in the keynote that the app would show/recommened/create entries automatically based on photos/music you took? Everything is empty for me and I take kinda a lot of pictures and listen often tu music. Am I missing something here?
 

gwhizkids

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Hm didnt they say in the keynote that the app would show/recommened/create entries automatically based on photos/music you took? Everything is empty for me and I take kinda a lot of pictures and listen often tu music. Am I missing something here?
I suspect it may take a little while to populate.
 

klasma

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Hopefully it exports into PDF or something.
Unlikely. You also can’t bulk-export all your notes (only individual ones). Maybe they’ll add it in a few years, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. There will possibly be third-party tools that extract it from backups (or from Mac if macOS ever gets a corresponding app).
 
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klasma

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Hm didnt they say in the keynote that the app would show/recommened/create entries automatically based on photos/music you took? Everything is empty for me and I take kinda a lot of pictures and listen often tu music. Am I missing something here?
From the WWDC presentation it will on provide suggestions for when you’re actively creating an entry.
 

CarAnalogy

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Not a big question at all: never going to happen. Integrating a paid third party app in iOS (basically putting them out of business) and then also adding import functions would be warfare. Apple has no benefit killing a third party market as they are already under enough scrutiny.
I get your logic but it’s just text. If Day One has an export feature, there you go. Importing that into Apple Journal is your choice. Apple doesn’t have to directly encourage it but they could simply have an import feature that takes standard formats.
 

tonywalker23

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My journals are all written with no pictures or photos or anything else. So if I was going to type, I would rather it be on a computer and not an iOS device. And since day one offers a free version that you can keep on one device at a time I use it on my MacBook that has a keyboard rather than an iOS device that doesn’t. So for me, day, one is still free And better than trying to keep a journal on an iOS device .
 

klasma

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I get your logic but it’s just text. If Day One has an export feature, there you go. Importing that into Apple Journal is your choice. Apple doesn’t have to directly encourage it but they could simply have an import feature that takes standard formats.
I think it would be bad evidence in case of an antitrust lawsuit, Apple abusing their market position, if the import specifically understands the Day One export format (there is no standard journal format).
 

TechRemarker

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Not gonna happen.
Why’s that? They have an import for Notes app which everyone used to import from Bear and all the main big competitors at the time since they all export into standard formats. Can’t imagine them not offering an import function for one of the many standard formats DayOne and others can export to, since otherwise the entire market share of existing users with countless years of data wouldn’t be able to migrate.
 
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TechRemarker

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My journals are all written with no pictures or photos or anything else. So if I was going to type, I would rather it be on a computer and not an iOS device. And since day one offers a free version that you can keep on one device at a time I use it on my MacBook that has a keyboard rather than an iOS device that doesn’t. So for me, day, one is still free And better than trying to keep a journal on an iOS device .
I assume there will be a companion Mac app, just they may try to finalize the iOS beta feature set first.
 

bunty

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"The Journal app is passcode and Face ID protected for privacy purposes"

Will this passcode be unique to the app or just another use of the phone's passcode (again...) If Apple can protect this app that way, why not the Settings app to protect privacy and offer more account protection? Just gimme an optional unique passcode option for the settings app.
 
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Apple_Robert

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"The Journal app is passcode and Face ID protected for privacy purposes"

Will this passcode be unique to the app or just another use of the phone's passcode (again...) If Apple can protect this app that way, why not the Settings app to protect privacy and offer more account protection? Just gimme an optional unique passcode option for the settings app.
It will probably use the same primary Face ID.
 
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Reeneman

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Hm didnt they say in the keynote that the app would show/recommened/create entries automatically based on photos/music you took? Everything is empty for me and I take kinda a lot of pictures and listen often tu music. Am I missing something here?
Probably you’re just missing the needed time for indexing until the app has some content for you.
 

Chester Stone

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This integration would be much more usable and interesting with something like an Elon Musk Neuralink brain chip, where I can think my thoughts into my phone rather than having to integrate through a screen.

Typing long journal entries on a software keyboard is such a pain, that I don't get the type of recall level that I do with handwriting in a dream journal, pocket notebook, pen and paper, or even a hardware keyboard. Needing to correct typos or look at suggestions completely kills my train of thought, in that I get too aware of the interface/typos and lose my flow state.

Not trying to be negative --- just wishing there were a better interface to this kind of app than iOS-only. Dictation may be fine for casual usage, but would have to be better transcription than Siri.
 

msackey

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Typing long journal entries on a software keyboard is such a pain, that I don't get the type of recall level that I do with handwriting in a dream journal, pocket notebook, pen and paper, or even a hardware keyboard. Needing to correct typos or look at suggestions completely kills my train of thought, in that I get too aware of the interface/typos and lose my flow state.

Not trying to be negative --- just wishing there were a better interface to this kind of app than iOS-only. Dictation may be fine for casual usage, but would have to be better transcription than Siri.
Absolutely agree with you regarding the soft keyboard.

Sometimes at night when I'm awake, a friend several timezones away and I text for an hour. AT some point I get so frustrated with the soft keyboard I say I'm done for the day and go back to sleep. You're so right that the constant need to correct typos is a major barrier to having a steady train of thought. In those cases, the interface becomes the roadblock, a true writer's block, if you will.
 
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