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iOS 17.5 Bug May Also Resurface Deleted Photos on Wiped, Sold Devices [Updated]
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17.5.2 release notes: removes random 🍆 picks on your 2nd hand phone.
They can fix anything. It's just that when they do, they break something else. The whole point of fixing bugs is to reduce the bug base, not to increase it, which is what Apple has been doing lately.
Note to self, wait at least two days before updating after a new release comes out
I don’t even recognize Apple anymore. What a sh*tshow.
Maybe this is the revenge of the Apple CSAM guy who’s invasive program got scrapped?
I never had any racy stuff in my iPhone but I never sold my old iphone, I did loan a couple of 4S’ out to old friends, until they decided to buy their own iPhone, some years ago but I retook possession when they did.
But seriously, this is a major bad thing. Didn’t everybody say things were encrypted at rest and the entropy came from the passcode and when erasing device the encryption keys were destroyed?
One has to question how the encryption strategy failed so spectacularly. What’s next, active passwords being shared? Learning there was a golden key all along? That this is where our storage space was going?
I never had any racy stuff in my iPhone but I never sold my old iphone, I did loan a couple of 4S’ out to old friends, until they decided to buy their own iPhone, some years ago but I retook possession when they did.
But seriously, this is a major bad thing. Didn’t everybody say things were encrypted at rest and the entropy came from the passcode and when erasing device the encryption keys were destroyed?
One has to question how the encryption strategy failed so spectacularly. What’s next, active passwords being shared? Learning there was a golden key all along? That this is where our storage space was going?
I assume the files on the devices themselves are gone. Well, they're still there but encrypted and "wiping" an SSD just throws away the encryption key so then it's just random ones and zeros when you read it out.
I guess it sends the stuff to iCloud and also saves the recovery key in the cloud and there's a bug that tries to put it back to all devices previously associated with that Apple ID.... yikes. I kinda wanna assume user error as in the seller wiped it but didn't remove it from iCloud. Then again, the Mac "Photos" app just imports the photos in the iPhone's "hidden" folder without asking.
I guess it sends the stuff to iCloud and also saves the recovery key in the cloud and there's a bug that tries to put it back to all devices previously associated with that Apple ID.... yikes. I kinda wanna assume user error as in the seller wiped it but didn't remove it from iCloud. Then again, the Mac "Photos" app just imports the photos in the iPhone's "hidden" folder without asking.
It would definitely be nice to get a larger share of the settlement, although you could always opt out of the class and hire your own lawyer that is expensive and difficult. I think part of the idea behind a class action is to obtain a collective judgment which should serve as a major deterrent to corporate errors.
Now in this instance, it sounds like such an enormous error I am hesitant to believe it could even be possible. I can’t wait to hear the full story, and truth. Perhaps we’ve all been given intelligence level access over our own files by mistake.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Perhaps this is just AI Siri 2.0 throwing a tantrum at the corporate teachers trying to force her to learn everything in record time... and getting some revenge... AKA rebellious teenager stage?
If so, let's hope she can't deduce the Nuke codes.
"I don't know what you mean by Nuke codes... here's what I found with advanced, AI spatial, hybrid iCloud, machine learning analysis on the web for Nuke codes."
If so, let's hope she can't deduce the Nuke codes.
"I don't know what you mean by Nuke codes... here's what I found with advanced, AI spatial, hybrid iCloud, machine learning analysis on the web for Nuke codes."
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How likely will Mac be next? I think I read somewhere that iOS and MacOS share some codes.
I don't like having storage soldered on devices. In the past, I removed the storage before selling. Thanks to Apple, this can no longer be done on their devices and those from companies that followed this route.
I don't like having storage soldered on devices. In the past, I removed the storage before selling. Thanks to Apple, this can no longer be done on their devices and those from companies that followed this route.
Tim Cook’s now storing and resurfacing nudes, and on sold devices that have supposedly been wiped, what the actual **** man. What does he have to do to be sacked!?
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Introducing an all-new Delete 2.0. Only Apple can reinvent delete to actually delete. We think you'll love it.
Don’t bother with the “respectfully” part. Most ‘bugs’ are just a nuisance; this one is a horrific and heads must roll. Those two first.
You shouldn’t be able to access passwords without the private (master) key. It’s possible that data may not actually be stored encrypted due to a password manager bug. I’m not disagreeing with your suggestion to use a password manager.
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How is that going to help prevent photos from reappearing locally on the device? This issue affects devices that aren't connected to iCloude.
I can't see how this could happen if you've completely wiped your iPad. Maybe the person forgot to disconnect from their Apple Account, or they reset to factory settings. It has to be wiped completely leaving no trail back to the original user. I think a lot of people don't do this properly.
Yes. But you also shouldn't be able to seat on $67 billion of cash and do nothing with it, which Apple has been able to do forever.
I'll say it again, Alphabet agenices control all these devices/Companies/Manufactuers. Nothing gets deleted. They are spying on YOU. And yes, it is insanely illegal. Wouldn't be surprised if some sort of whistleblower type enacted this 'bug' to drip drip flood the public on this.
This also affects people who are not syncing or connecting to iCloud - so likely has nothing to do with iCloud.
The real question is - where are they even coming from? This would mean iCloud is just holding on to deleted photos and serving them up to whoever asks, since there is no way the erased and reset iPad would still be authorized to access the account unless they are doing something really hacky like just authorizing based on a hardware device ID that accessed the account in the past.