End result: forcing people to not resell their devices, leading to people buying new from apple. Genius. Apple doesn't get a cut of old devices being resold.
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iOS 17.5 Bug May Also Resurface Deleted Photos on Wiped, Sold Devices [Updated]
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or... maybe this was deliberate... an executive somewhere (not necessarily Apple) got caught with illegal photos and this is a way to cover up for them. Hey, don't blame me, I'm binge-watching The Blacklist. 😂🤣
Think of devices traded in to Apple or carriers! It’s worse than just an old iPhone given to Mom or an iPad given to Grandpa. But the nature of photos can really cause some serious problems for people. What about you give your old erased iPad to your kid and it has photos of Mommy and you doing things.
If this is true, this may be the biggest privacy invasion in history. All by the world’s only company that supposedly cares about our privacy and secures our devices for us.
This could literally be the downfall of AAPL. I remember when my Mom said she would never buy a Toyota again after they had a braking issue causing their cars to not brake. She had only owned Toyotas for 20 years.
I will be beyond ticked if this is true in any way. It may seriously have me reconsidering my AAPL purchases.
If this is true, this may be the biggest privacy invasion in history. All by the world’s only company that supposedly cares about our privacy and secures our devices for us.
This could literally be the downfall of AAPL. I remember when my Mom said she would never buy a Toyota again after they had a braking issue causing their cars to not brake. She had only owned Toyotas for 20 years.
I will be beyond ticked if this is true in any way. It may seriously have me reconsidering my AAPL purchases.
Where have you seen reports of this affecting users who aren’t syncing with iCloud?
If you’ve given your old phone to your mum or dad, yep. Sleep well
Apple needs to be transparent about this and take the hits and the costs. That shows integrity.
Toyota hurt itself with its intransparency, slow walking, blaming customers and obfuscating investigation while amateurs outside TMC were exposing the problem.
I frankly doubt this report is accurate, more likely it's something like one person shared some photos with this person years ago, then primed by the article, they saw them in their library and attributed it to a bug after buying the sharer's iPad years later.
But if not I really hope we get details on how this worked out. It almost certainly has to be an amazing case study in over-engineering. I mean you would practically have to work to make this happen. You'd also hope the Advanced Data Protection would make it truly impossible if turned on . . . maybe they can save some face by pointing that out.
But if not I really hope we get details on how this worked out. It almost certainly has to be an amazing case study in over-engineering. I mean you would practically have to work to make this happen. You'd also hope the Advanced Data Protection would make it truly impossible if turned on . . . maybe they can save some face by pointing that out.
I just read their post on Reddit. They wiped the device. Never logged into it again. Gave/sold it to a friend. Sure they could be making the whole thing up but for what reason?
Interesting. If true, this lends credence to the theory that the photos are being restored from local data, not from iCloud. Hopefully Apple is investigating and will say something soon.
And maybe they’ll deign to say something about the Apple ID password resets from a few weeks ago and the iMessage outage yesterday 🙄
And maybe they’ll deign to say something about the Apple ID password resets from a few weeks ago and the iMessage outage yesterday 🙄
Attention? People make things up on the internet literally all day every day.
A bug in iOS 17.5 is apparently causing photos that have been deleted to reappear, and the issue seems to impact even iPhones and iPads that have been erased and sold off to other people.
A Reddit user wiped an iPad following Apple's guidelines in September of 2023 before selling it off to a friend. That friend updated the iPad to iPadOS 17.5 this week, and began seeing the Reddit user's old photos reappearing in the Photos app. From Reddit:The impacted iPad was a fourth-generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro that had been updated to the latest operating system update, and before it was sold, it was erased per Apple's instructions. The Reddit user says they did not log back in to the iPad at any point after erasing it, so it is entirely unclear how their old photos ended up reappearing on the device.
Earlier this week, we shared several other reports of users who saw deleted photos resurfacing on their devices after updating, but those reports were from users who still owned their devices and were logged into their own iCloud Photo Libraries and Apple IDs.
The latest report suggests that the erased and sold iPad is somehow restoring old photos from an Apple ID that is no longer signed in to it. The Reddit user says the photos that are reappearing are from 2017, which is in line with similar reports. The images were initially taken on an iPhone, and so had been synced to the iPad via iCloud Photo Library before the iPad was wiped and sold.
Other users have seen photos from years ago (as late as 2010) reappearing suddenly, with no explanation for why. Not all users are seeing this problem, nor does it appear to be impacting all deleted images.
Apple devices are supposed to retain photos for 30 days in the Recently Deleted section of the Photos app, and images should be deleted automatically if a second delete procedure is carried out from the Recently Deleted interface. Apple has not yet provided any information on why some users may be seeing photos reappearing, and it is concerning to hear of a report of old photos showing up on a device that was wiped and sold.
Article Link: iOS 17.5 Bug May Also Resurface Deleted Photos on Wiped, Sold Devices
A bug in iOS 17.5 is apparently causing photos that have been deleted to reappear, and the issue seems to impact even iPhones and iPads that have been erased and sold off to other people.
A Reddit user wiped an iPad following Apple's guidelines in September of 2023 before selling it off to a friend. That friend updated the iPad to iPadOS 17.5 this week, and began seeing the Reddit user's old photos reappearing in the Photos app. From Reddit:The impacted iPad was a fourth-generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro that had been updated to the latest operating system update, and before it was sold, it was erased per Apple's instructions. The Reddit user says they did not log back in to the iPad at any point after erasing it, so it is entirely unclear how their old photos ended up reappearing on the device.
Earlier this week, we shared several other reports of users who saw deleted photos resurfacing on their devices after updating, but those reports were from users who still owned their devices and were logged into their own iCloud Photo Libraries and Apple IDs.
The latest report suggests that the erased and sold iPad is somehow restoring old photos from an Apple ID that is no longer signed in to it. The Reddit user says the photos that are reappearing are from 2017, which is in line with similar reports. The images were initially taken on an iPhone, and so had been synced to the iPad via iCloud Photo Library before the iPad was wiped and sold.
Other users have seen photos from years ago (as late as 2010) reappearing suddenly, with no explanation for why. Not all users are seeing this problem, nor does it appear to be impacting all deleted images.
Apple devices are supposed to retain photos for 30 days in the Recently Deleted section of the Photos app, and images should be deleted automatically if a second delete procedure is carried out from the Recently Deleted interface. Apple has not yet provided any information on why some users may be seeing photos reappearing, and it is concerning to hear of a report of old photos showing up on a device that was wiped and sold.
Article Link: iOS 17.5 Bug May Also Resurface Deleted Photos on Wiped, Sold Devices
This sounds.. sub-optional .. major privacy implications..
Yikes.
I get wanting to stay quiet until they have an idea of what happened/what’s going on but they should at least acknowledge it and say they’re looking into it.
So… Apple has been secretly hiring Boeing executives??
A bug in iOS 17.5 is apparently causing photos that have been deleted to reappear, and the issue seems to impact even iPhones and iPads that have been erased and sold off to other people.
A Reddit user wiped an iPad following Apple's guidelines in September of 2023 before selling it off to a friend. That friend updated the iPad to iPadOS 17.5 this week, and began seeing the Reddit user's old photos reappearing in the Photos app. From Reddit:The impacted iPad was a fourth-generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro that had been updated to the latest operating system update, and before it was sold, it was erased per Apple's instructions. The Reddit user says they did not log back in to the iPad at any point after erasing it, so it is entirely unclear how their old photos ended up reappearing on the device.
Earlier this week, we shared several other reports of users who saw deleted photos resurfacing on their devices after updating, but those reports were from users who still owned their devices and were logged into their own iCloud Photo Libraries and Apple IDs.
The latest report suggests that the erased and sold iPad is somehow restoring old photos from an Apple ID that is no longer signed in to it. The Reddit user says the photos that are reappearing are from 2017, which is in line with similar reports. The images were initially taken on an iPhone, and so had been synced to the iPad via iCloud Photo Library before the iPad was wiped and sold.
Other users have seen photos from years ago (as late as 2010) reappearing suddenly, with no explanation for why. Not all users are seeing this problem, nor does it appear to be impacting all deleted images.
Apple devices are supposed to retain photos for 30 days in the Recently Deleted section of the Photos app, and images should be deleted automatically if a second delete procedure is carried out from the Recently Deleted interface. Apple has not yet provided any information on why some users may be seeing photos reappearing, and it is concerning to hear of a report of old photos showing up on a device that was wiped and sold.
Article Link: iOS 17.5 Bug May Also Resurface Deleted Photos on Wiped, Sold Devices
ONE user on Reddit with dubious posting history and this forum is foaming at the mouth.
Geez people..
No wonder we are in the political situation we are in the US
Geez people..
No wonder we are in the political situation we are in the US
- California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA): This act requires businesses to comply with consumer requests to delete personal information but also includes exceptions where data must be retained to comply with legal obligations, for security purposes, or to complete transactions.
- Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA): In the United States, this law requires electronic communication service providers to retain certain records for law enforcement purposes.
- Sarbanes-Oxley Act: This U.S. federal law requires companies to retain financial and auditing records for a specific period.
- Patriot Act: This U.S. law may require companies to retain data for national security purposes.
I really need more evidence than a reddit post on this one. There's something going on that they're not telling us. Either the iPad wasn't wiped, they didn't follow the directions, they did log back in, or something similar.
Another possibility - terrifying if true - is that Apple's "erase this device" does an insufficient job of erasing, and it just strips header code from data (in this case, photos) that make them impossible to find but the images themselves are not overwritten with random ones and zeroes. Image and disk recovery tools depend on data not being overwritten in order to work.
If that's the case, that could be very very bad indeed.
Another possibility - terrifying if true - is that Apple's "erase this device" does an insufficient job of erasing, and it just strips header code from data (in this case, photos) that make them impossible to find but the images themselves are not overwritten with random ones and zeroes. Image and disk recovery tools depend on data not being overwritten in order to work.
If that's the case, that could be very very bad indeed.
I hope this issue gets the attention it deserves, not just a “bad Apple, oh well, next” kind of thing, especially because they purposely advertise privacy in their ads.
Me. I don't sync to iCloud at all, no iCloud drive, no pictures, no notes, no keychain - absolutely nothing other than contacts and the bug happened to me.
I mean …people are weird af sometimes so there’s that. Either way Apple should respond