The EU is giving you a choice. Which implies trust in its citizens rather than assuming they are stupid.
Freedom of choice is what you got.
Freedom from choice is what you want.
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iOS 17.5 Lets EU iPhone Users Download Apps From Websites
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The EU is giving you a choice. Which implies trust in its citizens rather than assuming they are stupid.
Freedom of choice is what you got.
Freedom from choice is what you want.
Unfortunately iPadOS is not big enough (used enough) in the EU to be considered as gatekeeper.
Being in the US where this capability is not [yet?] available it sounds like iOS 17.5 will have much more bloat that provides me zero functionality but could result in a boatload of more bugs.
I can hardly wait
I can hardly wait
EU users must be happy now they can download malware directly to their iPhones.
You already HAD a choice! Android provides the exact experience you people want. The EU isn't giving a choice. It took away the only closed system from those who wanted it! For those who wanted a closed ecosystem...they no longer have that choice. Why is this so difficult for EU shills to understand?
We had an open ecosystem (Android) and a closed ecosystem (Apple). We now have open (Android) and...open (Apple). The EU took away a choice. Which implies the EU thinks they know what's best for its citizens instead of allowing its citizens to choose the type of experience they wanted. You know who does that? People who think others are too stupid to make their own decisions about what they want when there were already options for differing experiences.
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If I want to have a choice of that kind I would have chosen an Android. But I chose an Apple just because of it's a closed environment. EU gave apple users option nobody asked for while thing people are asking for is nobody dealing with from these "EU people" in position to make a difference.
Last time I checked macOS is open and is part of Apple.
Notarization applies a cryptographic signature from Apple that iOS verifies on each installation (including updates). These signatures are unbreakable with current and foreseeable technology. You can’t change a single byte of the app without the signature becoming invalid. They are as unalterable as downloads from Apple’s own app store. All security and authentication on the modern-day internet and mobile devices is based on that kind of cryptography.
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Because Apple wasn’t going to change anything thy didn’t have to. It is confusing considering iPadOS is basically iOS.
MR commenters based in the EU are not the typical iPhone user. I think it’s fair to assume everyone here knows about iPhone and how it works.
The average user though? I don’t think so. So, if something goes wrong, will they blame Apple for it when Apple had nothing to do with an app from a website?
I think the best thing Apple can do is some sort of pop up which says in effect “Apple assumes no responsibility and offers no support of any app downloaded from websites. For support, please contact the developer.”.
The average user though? I don’t think so. So, if something goes wrong, will they blame Apple for it when Apple had nothing to do with an app from a website?
I think the best thing Apple can do is some sort of pop up which says in effect “Apple assumes no responsibility and offers no support of any app downloaded from websites. For support, please contact the developer.”.
And as far as I'm concerned...macOS is a fragmented crapshow of an experience. Honestly, in my opinion...the openness of macOS...isn't a "feature". It's a bug. macOS would be FAR better if I could get everything I wanted/needed in one place instead of having to go to multiple places and put my payment information into multiple places to get it. The openness of macOS and the inability to get what I want and need in one place...is a pain in the neck.
If I wanted the same fragmented crap experience on my phone...I'd go back to Android. But I don't want that.
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We are talking here a young left, which is like a majority of young Gen Z in most of the EU. They are not "there" on the right, not even close. In fact Gen Y and Z is the most far left leaning generation in decades comparable maybe with Boomers in 60s and even then it was not a most of Boomers and Boomers were a hell of a generation.
You do realise there would be no app store without 3rd party developers.
It would be like Apple owning a giant library with no books written by anyone other than a few by Apple.
Apple owe's the success of the app store 100% to the hard working devs who created all those apps we love.
I could buy and run an art gallery, but without talented artists my Gallery would be a utter failure.
Would you like to also live in a zoo?
A nice safe controlled life, with food and entertainment that's approved by the zoo keeper.
No need to go outside into the real world as that's dangerous.
It's safer to stay in the zoo
Or game emulators, torrent clients or other apps that Apple doesn't think we should use. Thank you to the EU for the free choice, and thank you for letting us think for ourselves and use our common sense.
Is no one reading a full paragraph anymore? the apps still need to be verified by Apple. If you do not trust Apples verification process in the first place, then why are you even worried?
Of course commission free for the artists?
Last I checked AirPods don't allow third party software at all. Did you have a point?
This is just FUD. Did you two not see the part about all apps requiring a notarization process?
That would mean Apple is in cahoots with the EU in creating/allowing backdoors since apps are required to submit to Apple's notarization process
What is Apple's app notarization process, you may be wondering?
This is How Notarization Will Work for iOS Apps Distributed Through Alternative App Stores
Apps that are distributed through alternative app stores in EU countries will need to submit to a notarization process that's similar to the...
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Apps that are distributed through alternative app stores in EU countries will need to submit to a notarization process that's similar to the notarization process for Mac apps. According to Apple, Notarization applies to all apps, and it is a process focused on privacy, security, and maintaining device integrity.
I don't understand anyone getting so upset because we get extra options. It is optional to use them. If you live in the USA or in other countries outside the EU, it will not affect you. You don't have to worry about us in the EU, we are used to not having signs and disclaimers on everything. We also know that hot coffee is hot. Sorry for the last one 😅
So essentially the security threat wouldn't be the App itself, but where you go to get it...
Maybe this is what they mean when talking about side loading 😂
An App with a side dish... served nasty
Apple couldn't innovate my iPhone anymore. Not even with help from Mr. "Courage" himself, Phil Schiller.
So the EU came to its rescue: First with USB-C. And now with competition for the iOS App Store.
It's good for me, it's good for you
-Hip-hip-hurray for the EU!
So the EU came to its rescue: First with USB-C. And now with competition for the iOS App Store.
It's good for me, it's good for you
-Hip-hip-hurray for the EU!
This is just FUD. Did you two not see the part about all apps requiring a notarization process?
That would mean Apple is in cahoots with the EU in creating/allowing backdoors since apps are required to submit to Apple's notarization process
What is Apple's app notarization process, you may be wondering?
This is How Notarization Will Work for iOS Apps Distributed Through Alternative App Stores
Apps that are distributed through alternative app stores in EU countries will need to submit to a notarization process that's similar to the...
Apps that are distributed through alternative app stores in EU countries will need to submit to a notarization process that's similar to the notarization process for Mac apps. According to Apple, Notarization applies to all apps, and it is a process focused on privacy, security, and maintaining device integrity.
The reason people aren’t taking this seriously is because next the EU will claim the notarization process is against the DMA.
We’re one step away from being the Wild West, with no consumer protections or security. And who will get the blame? Not the EU for introducing this cluster-you-know-what. Nope, they’ll blame Apple.