iOS 17.5 Lets EU iPhone Users Download Apps From Websites

[CraigJDuffy]

Will this feature be open for the UK as well?

Sadly not

 

[Chuckeee]

Wait!!! Is the Earth still spinning? Will the Sun rise tomorrow? Guys, I'm scared. I was told this would essentially be the end of the world.

Sorry to disappoint you, but this is the afterlife. 🤭

 

[CraigJDuffy]

I’d say this is not true. If you want Fortnite i guarantee you’ll have to download it from an alt store: Epic Store.

I’m willing to bet other companies will want to do so also. Eventually getting apps will be very segmented.

Right, but it’s better to be able to get Fortnite at all if you want it vs the status quo of not being able to cause apple says no.

 

[CraigJDuffy]

Absolutely horrible.
The worst thing about mac is the need to remember which App you downloaded from the website. If you bought a mac and want to set it as a new machine, you have to find all of the apps to download. Where as on iOS you can just see the purchase history.

And no, it is not simply another choice for developers. A lot of developers don’t publish to the mac App Store. By supporting EU, it means you will lost the Apps you bought from App store sometime

Lots of devs would publish on the App Store if they didn’t have to pay for the luxury to do so. Blame apple for making the App Store a terrible place to be a developer on the Mac.

 

[Sogeman]

Too many prerequisites required. Come on EU, kick their ass so we can have some real sideloading and alt app stores

 

[truthsteve]

Developers make money because of Apple’s hard work and Apple makes money because of developers’ hard work. Therefore, the fee should be 0.00 euro, just like it us for Mac software.

workers make money because of government's hard work. and government makes money because of workers. therefore, business taxes should be 0.00 euro.

wait, what?

 

[truthsteve]

Use a different app.

irrelevant to the conversation.

 

[vakarpochui]

COMPANIES SHOULD NOT HAVE FREEDOM. HUMANS SHOULD HAVE FREEDOM.

That's the thing that absolutely infuriates me about liebertarians. They want to pretend companies are people and should have rights.

If a company tries to do something that is contrary to a human's rights, whether that be to block CarPlay or make it impossible to install ANY software of that human's choice on that human's personal iPhone, the company should be prohibited by law from doing it.

If you don't want to install an alternate OS on your car's infotainment system, nobody is forcing you to do it. If you only want to stick to Mommy Apple's app store, nobody is forcing you to not. All that we're asking is that Apple, which is a multinational corporation and NOT a person, be forced to give actual people their freedom.

Who's we? Any time in my 40 years I heard something start with we it wasn't good.

 

[Samplasion]

I´m tired of the paternalism of the European Union, as if the user is stupid.

Signed: Citizen of the European Union

as opposed to Apple locking out apps because they think the user is a toddler...? I'll take the EU, thanks

 

[one more]

Where are those websites? 🤷🏻‍♂️

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-to-expect-from-ios-17-5.2423283/post-33048439

 

[one more]

Yep... What's funny is that was predicted years ago and almost everyone here thought that was just scare tactics, and... presented a great opportunity to take a swing at Apple - cuz it's Apple/Tim Cook/buh-blah/buh-blah/buh-blah... And need to be knocked down.

And here we are today.

And where exactly are we today according to you? Have your iPhone just been rendered unusable by a potential web-based app? Have you ever downloaded and installed an app on your Mac from anywhere but Apple themselves?

 

[one more]

Well nobody said you HAD to download apps from websites….
I would be curious to know the % of people that will want to do it and even know this is an option

And be able to find those apps to download in the first place, LOL.

 

[one more]

EU users must be happy now they can download malware directly to their iPhones.

No, we still cannot, so no happiness here as yet!

 

[RammyXX]

If I want to have a choice of that kind I would have chosen an Android. But I chose an Apple just because of it's a closed environment. EU gave apple users option nobody asked for while thing people are asking for is nobody dealing with from these "EU people" in position to make a difference.

Apparently you do not understand what choice means. 😂

 

[one more]

MR commenters based in the EU are not the typical iPhone user.

How so? What is a “typical” iPhone user?

 

[hagar]

I've already lost that option on Mac when the app I paid for left the App Store

That tells you everything: devs rather sell outside than inside.

So much for added value and taking advantage of Apple’s hard work.

 

[one more]

Will this feature be open for the UK as well?

If one of these two conditions are met:
1) The UK government forces Apple to do it;
2) The UK rejoins the EU.

 

[CrysisDeu]

Lots of devs would publish on the App Store if they didn’t have to pay for the luxury to do so. Blame apple for making the App Store a terrible place to be a developer on the Mac.

But again, it is easier than having to setup a website to provide the downloads, have a place for people to write reviews, wire the payment and delivery. Oh and not to mention, it makes pirating easier, which eventually hurts the devs.

As a customer using iPhone, I want to use App Store exclusively. The EU laws will end it.

I have a separate Andriod phone to download apps not available on App Store, but I also want the convenience App Store provides so I use iPhone as my main. It is my choice, not the governments’

 

[Manzanito]

workers make money because of government's hard work. and government makes money because of workers. therefore, business taxes should be 0.00 euro.

wait, what?

Governments collect taxes to build hospitals, and roads and so on… not to make a profit.

I know, I know, good, wise, benevolent apple only takes their cut of the app store to maintain the incredible infrastructure of the app store. How much of the money they take goes towards maintaining the app store (which apple apps also use) and how much is pure profit?

 

[one more]

As a customer using iPhone, I want to use App Store exclusively. The EU laws will end it.

No, you can still use App Store exclusively, if you wish.

 

[svish]

Good to see alternate methods to download/access the app. I would still prefer to download directly from the App store.

 

[CrysisDeu]

No, you can still use App Store exclusively, if you wish.

My whole point is the Apps existed on App store, and new apps, will not be on App store, just like mac

 

[CrysisDeu]

Good to see alternate methods to download/access the app. I would still prefer to download directly from the App store.

Your preferred way will be gone after this

 

[Samplasion]

As a customer using iPhone, I want to use App Store exclusively

You can still do that.

 

[Samplasion]

My whole point is the Apps existed on App store, and new apps, will not be on App store, just like mac

"I'd rather push some talented devs away from the iOS platform than have them develop an app I refuse to use because they don't publish it on the App Store" ???