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iOS 18.5 Includes Only a Few Changes So Far

UltimaKilo said:
How is fixing bugs and making it more stable “worthless”? This is likely the most important update and complete stable version of the OS…
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Agree. New features aren’t always the most important thing. I would be thankful if they just would fix all the Apple AI hiccups, the animation flaws and improve Siri.
 
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jimscard said:
Actually, there’s over 1000 changes in the code between 18.5 beta 2 and 18.5 beta 3. Just because the UI didn’t change doesn’t mean nothing did.

One example I’ve noticed today is that asking Siri “What can I do” when a third-party app is open will fairly often provide a list of things you can do with that app.
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Code changes can mean anything; bug fixes, new features or basically nothing more than clerical cleaning up.
The point here is: when looking back some 10 years in terms of OS changes, it’s easy to see Apple’s rabid focus on services and little else. Nowadays, any major macOS update “feature” list consists, in its overwhelming majority (at least 80%), of things that are intrinsically associated with Apple’s often incompetent/incipient services or subscription pushes; core, offline improvements are almost nonexistent now.
 
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Veinticinco said:
Seriously, what's even the point?
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Not sure the point of your asking this but if it's "does this update matter", well, a little but not a lot. Nothing wrong with that. I'll load the update not so much because I'm all excited for something but because it's pretty darn easy to update and I really can't think of a reason not to. I may find myself using what's in the update -- or not. Now and then any given update may be a bit more compelling for a particular person and not for some others. That's ok. It's just an update
 
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Unami said:
So, the nag-screen for buying something from them got bigger and there's a new toggle to easier switch something unpopular off... Apple kind of feels like Microsoft in the 00s, lately
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I hate that headline block that's slowly infesting the other parts of Apple first party apps that can't be turned off.

Especially the kind that's just explains what this screen does like the one in Wi-Fi. (Like mandatory Tips experience everywhere) The explanation could still be there but take up way less space
 
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naught@home said:
It has a name: ellipsis
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"The ellipsis (pronounced il-LIP-sis) is a type of punctuation that represents a pause or that something has been intentionally left out."

Something intentionally left out fits Apple Intelligence quite well, but it really doesn't fit the use case.

What happened to the hamburger icon, the three short horizontal lines in the corner that led to more menu options?
 
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platinumaqua said:
I hate that headline block that's slowly infesting the other parts of Apple first party apps that can't be turned off.

Especially the kind that's just explains what this screen does like the one in Wi-Fi. (Like mandatory Tips experience everywhere) The explanation could still be there but take up way less space
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If I understand what you are talking about it's like when I open settings (I'm on released 18.4.1) and get something telling me about image creation tools. It would be nice if I could then swipe left and remove like with notifications. Hardly a real problem but yeah, removing them after seeing once would be nice.
 
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Donkey Man said:
Code changes can mean anything; bug fixes, new features or basically nothing more than clerical cleaning up.
The point here is: when looking back some 10 years in terms of OS changes, it’s easy to see Apple’s rabid focus on services and little else. Nowadays, any major macOS update “feature” list consists, in its overwhelming majority (at least 80%), of things that are intrinsically associated with Apple’s often incompetent/incipient services or subscription pushes; core, offline improvements are almost nonexistent now.
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Bingo. Which is why the share price keeps rocketing. Markets don’t give a damn about customer experience, only customer retention.
 
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Howard2k said:
Yep. Hopefully some of the beta testers are doing beta testing this time!
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Thank you for confirming this, I didn’t see anyone else mention it and I’ve seen it on multiple devices and I don’t sync… it’s an insane regression that I don’t think I’ve ever seen happen before across a hundred+ of these releases.
 
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jimscard said:
What do you mean “less annoying”. Typing the name of the app or setting you want to change is too hard? Or asking Siri for it?
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Annoying ≠ too hard. It takes more taps now, which is annoying (not unlike how you weirdly change the font for your posts). And Siri to get to app settings? Doesn’t work for me. I just get “I don’t understand” and that’s if I get a response at all.
 
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We really were sold a lie with iPhone 16 and AI. Its late April and the big features are nowhere to be found.
 
I guess people will need to wait until September to have something interesting with iOS 19…
 
BigDO said:
at this point, all I want to see is battery life return to normal. It’s simply not acceptable that every release cripples even the current generation devices.
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That’s really strange. I have never experienced that on any release going back to 2007. You might just be really unlucky and need a new battery.
 
JohnC1959 said:
If I understand what you are talking about it's like when I open settings (I'm on released 18.4.1) and get something telling me about image creation tools. It would be nice if I could then swipe left and remove like with notifications. Hardly a real problem but yeah, removing them after seeing once would be nice.
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See the "Headers in Settings" in this link: https://9to5mac.com/2024/09/18/ios-18-settings-whats-new/

It's extra annoying for me since I'm using a mini and that requires extra scrolling to get to what I need. The same info can be displayed in a more space efficient manner.
 
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Donkey Man said:
Code changes can mean anything; bug fixes, new features or basically nothing more than clerical cleaning up.
The point here is: when looking back some 10 years in terms of OS changes, it’s easy to see Apple’s rabid focus on services and little else. Nowadays, any major macOS update “feature” list consists, in its overwhelming majority (at least 80%), of things that are intrinsically associated with Apple’s often incompetent/incipient services or subscription pushes; core, offline improvements are almost nonexistent now.
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What "rabid focus on services" are you talking about? Little else? Apple Intelligence is literally all about on-device capabilities. Mail categorization, voice memo transcription, translate, proofread & rewrite ... all offline major features. .
 
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nutmac said:
When a minor version update includes only a few minor new features (along with bug fixes and/or performance optimizations), those new features were usually targeted for the previous version. Seemingly minor nature of 18.5 is an indication of it being the final minor update to 18.
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Maybe. Though MR reported weeks ago seeing 18.6 in user agent strings in server logs, and figured they were authentic.
 
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