iOS 18 Passwords App: All the New Features

[SnowCrocodile]

I hear that, but I see it more as using a particular app as a client to handle an open file format, like using any number of apps to handle markdown, or more comparably, an SQL database. The data isn't locked into the app.

Edit: I see your point about security issues etc. I suppose that's a judgement call as to whether a single dev is to be trusted less or more than a team

But in the case of KeePass, it’s not a single dev. At least if you plan on using it with your phone. It’s a bunch of independent developers who may or may not really talk to each other. Dominic makes it very clear that all of these mobile apps are unofficial.

 

[markgpearse]

I've been liking the Passwords app on my iPad running iOS 18. One odd thing... some websites require special characters. The password generator doesn't seem to include special characters. I can't find a setting for this, so I have been adding them manually.

 

[JamesMay82]

Just trying it tonight and it’s it’s added loads of random passwords under thr all section that weren’t there previously..

Any ideas? They seem to be old app log ins from 2022 but they weren’t in the password app when it was built into settings

 

[speedyraf]

On my Apple devices, I use my preferred password manager with my various browsers, including Safari. As I'm not a "techie" and a basic user, this works for me. Must one must use Apple's new password manager with iOS18? Thanks

 

[Apple_Robert]

On my Apple devices, I use my preferred password manager with my various browsers, including Safari. As I'm not a "techie" and a basic user, this works for me. Must one must use Apple's new password manager with iOS18? Thanks

No, you don’t have to use the new Passwords app. You can keep using the app you have been.

 

[rforno]

The only export option is CSV plaintext, which I'm not sure other products (1Password, Strongbox, etc) support for import, do they?

If not, that's a major problem for power / cross-platform users. Why not export in a standard password format?

Even worse, until Apple lets other browsers access Passwords, this is a huge non-starter for me.

My 2 cents, anyway.

 

[coffeemilktea]

I wonder what's going to happen with 3rd-party password managers, now that Apple Passwords will do 90% of the same stuff for free and with seamless integration with the Apple ecosystem? 🤔

 

[dan110]

I would NOT leave all of my credentials on a Apple only app that I can't put on other devices like an Android or win Machine. Use a third-party that is platform agnostic.

 

[dan110]

I wonder what's going to happen with 3rd-party password managers, now that Apple Passwords will do 90% of the same stuff for free and with seamless integration with the Apple ecosystem? 🤔

No sane forward thinking person would solely rely on a sole proprietor app to carry all of their login credentials. That's just be plain stupid. I think the third-party apps are going to thrive as people learn some very tough mistakes from leaving their passwords in one ecosystem that isn't multiplatform.

 

[jz0309]

I would NOT leave all of my credentials on an Apple only app that I can't put on other devices like an Android or win Machine. Use a third-party that is platform agnostic.

So you would buy an Android phone or a Windows computer so that your passwords are managed cross-platform even though you use only Apple devices? Yes, makes total sense…

 

[GermanSuplex]

Definitely not ready to replace 1Password for me (which I’m actually no longer real happy with). It’s a good app if you don’t already use such an app, better than constantly forgetting or using more unsafe methods, but it’s not nearly enough to replace dedicated third-party apps yet. Maybe in the future it will be more robust.

 

[azhava]

I would NOT leave all of my credentials on a Apple only app that I can't put on other devices like an Android or win Machine. Use a third-party that is platform agnostic.

I don't use any Android or Win machines (in fact, I consciously avoid them at all costs), so the thought of my info being in an Apple only app doesn't bother me a bit. My contacts, calendars, reminders, messages, photos, etc. are all also in Apple only apps.

For those who are switchers or have cross-platform ecosystems, I can see the problems.

 

[GlassFingers]

Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas

I mean I keep a photo of my passport in the Notes app. Seems like most of those things you could just put into the Notes app…

 

[WarmWinterHat]

I don't use any Android or Win machines (in fact, I consciously avoid them at all costs), so the thought of my info being in an Apple only app doesn't bother me a bit. My contacts, calendars, reminders, messages, photos, etc. are all also in Apple only apps.

For those who are switchers or have cross-platform ecosystems, I can see the problems.

I don't have a problem with my passwords being on apple, I have a problem with my iPhone password being the gateway to other passwords. We should be able to lock with a different and unique password, separate from our Apple ID and/or iPhone/mac/iPad, but we can't.

 

[Stella]

Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas

Nope. Prefer things like that accessible in one place.

 

[trusso]

Tell me again why we should switch over to passkeys? I understand the security benefits, so called, but all I really see is a way for corporations to enact de facto device lock-in.

This is a trojan horse. Not a fan.

 

[Boardiesboi]

I can’t jump onboard this has features similar to 1Password:

- importing entire 1P library directly into password app
- allow us to specify number of characters and what symbols are included in suggested strong password
- chrome or windows plugin to allow this to be used on a work laptop with windows

 

[Ivan X]

Are there any actual capabilities here that weren't previously in the Passwords area of Settings of Sonoma/iOS 17?

I'm 1000% in favor of this long overdue facelift, if so, but I'm trying to determine if that's all it is, or whether it does anything new.

 

[ignatius345]

Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas

Does the Keychain app offer any kind of exportable backup? I'm manually backing up my 1Password database every few months and not comfortable having every login credential I own stuck only within iCloud's ecosystem. I already have a LOT tied up in my Apple ID, and if I got locked out of it and had all my passwords in there, I'd be well and truly ****ed.

I still remember quite vividly how every single Apple device I had got randomly logged out requiring a full password recovery operation. No explanation of that from Apple, and it didn't inspire confidence.

 

[jackpreed]

Any chance they may port this back to macOS Ventura? My Mac can’t be upgraded to Sequoia but my phone and iPad can be updated to iOS 18 and iPad 18. If I invoke Passwords on iOS or iPadOS are the old Keychain entries deleted? I can see lots of sync issues with my Mac if I upgrade my phone or iPad to 18.

 

[whizstachio]

Is it only me or does anybody else miss the fact that code and password used to be in the same window/section?
What is the reason for code to be on its own section?
With iCloud Keychain you had Username, Password and Code all in the same window, you could copy and paste from the same window without needing to switch to different sections to copy things belonging to the same account. I don't use plugins in other browsers so if use Chrome, or need to fill in website credentials in a different pc (rdp) with iCloud keychain I could just copy and paste from the same window. Now you have to switch between sections for the same account and you don't see if the code is about to roll over before you copy. This is a step backwards if you ask me.

 

[psxp]

Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas

Bitwarden!

 

[no1Great8fan]

Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas

I'll join the others who have already put forth Bitwarden as a worthy contender; I used it quite happily for several years.

I would also highly recommend Proton's password manager (as well as their entire suite of services — see Proton.me) since I have been so pleased with their free services that I upgraded to a paid plan (primarily for the increased cloud storage capacity, but also to "support their cause") a few years ago. I'm thinking that I'll give Apple's new Passwords app several months to "mature", and then completely switch to it when it "feels" like it's ready.

 

[Chungry]

Anyone else ditching 1Password but need a plan for where to move the things that the new Password app doesn't support? (Passport, image files, software licenses, notes etc)?

Looking for ideas

Bitwarden. It works with passkeys and yubikeys. It’s cross platform too. I’m all in on it after leaving 1pass years ago. I don’t believe in entrusting all my security with Apple when they haven’t been the most competent with services. Bonus: you can self-host Bitwarden vaults just like you used to be able to do before 1password saw that corporate cash and abandoned users that didn’t want their hostile subscription service

 

[ScreenSavers]

I wish you could import from eWallet. I’ve been wanting to get rid of that antiquated app for years now.