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By the way, I did see the Google photo recently incorporated kind of generative AI object removal tool in addition to the famous magic eraser. Now, the app could generate background for the portion in which an object have been removed. The result is amazing. The user is allowed to choose a few of generated results or ask it to regenerate another batch of outputs. Furthermore, Google photo introduces a feature of group similar photos which I have been long for. It make my days for deleting redundant images after attempts of candid shots.

It sounds like Google is getting ready for offering FREE image enhancement features to fight vs Apple intelligence while Apple is still at its comfort zone to do nothing but simply revamping photo app ‘s UI and keeping the very BASIC image editing tools! Its duplicate tool under utilities is still not able to sort out similar shots but only exact copies of images, which is not so useful at all.
Google Phot app has many of these features for a very long time. They initially asked people to sign-up for Google Cloud paid version for Photo App features but later started offering it for free. Google already has mastered the AI and ML (Models) of each and individual user and has already implemented it very well. I think Google also applied some basic level of security where you can’t tag any one in the pictures and name it unless they are someway associated with your group or contact or they have your number in their Android Mobiles.
 
Must be great to just change your App without any fear of the backlash in reviews, and ratings, from users.

I write Apps for a living.
I just updated the UI on my best seller, first change in about 10 years.
I got a lot of heat for that even though the changes were long over due and it is easier, and faster, to navigate now.

People get comfortable with a system, takes them a few years of using it to get use to finding their way around it.
The people who work on it daily know it inside out and, I think, often fail to remember that the end user doesn't.

When I saw this post I felt myself groaning. It even crossed my mind NOT to upgrade to 18. Since I have to test my apps on it I have little choice.

My mom’s Garmin app wasn’t “working properly “….before she reset the BT just settings, so I figured she unintentionally changed a setting. So I had to help her fix it. Everything was working, app had just updated and she didn’t like it and stopped using it.
 
Well, I haven't tried installing beta yet so I could try myself.

But based on what I'm seeing on pictures and videos, this might be the reason I will - for the first time ever - not upgrade but rather stick to iOS 17 for as long as I can.

Only because of this one app.

Brilliant.

I’m still using Twitter, as in the APP NAMED Twitter. So so happy
 
So we have a huge relearn. Sorry but IMO that sucks for any app so many millions of people have so many millions of hours invested in.
Must be great to just change your App without any fear of the backlash in reviews, and ratings, from users.
The problem isn’t the relearn - we’d never have better things if that were a blocker. The problem is it’s just bad design.

At this rate of decline I might as well just go and buy an ass end Pixel 7A or something with LineageOS and use my mirrorless instead.

UNLESS I can turn all the crap off
You could just use a third party app.

Having been on the developer beta for awhile, my least favorite “update” is the photos app. So much so, I’d love a chance to keep the old or I may just use Google’s photo app.

The only positive thing this article mentions is likely to be behind a paywall with AI photo editing.
Are we not expecting the photo editing to be in-device, and therefore not paywalled?
 
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Just wondering, what the point to incorporate a star rating system for the personal photo collection on mobile?

If this rating is simply for managing photos for future deletion, why not create 5 nos of albums of different stars, then add the photos to any of the starred albums at your preferences. Thereafter, one could review the photos in starred album and delete any he/she likes?

It allows me to quickly scan photos I've made in the past to ones I really liked for exporting to Lightroom. Its ease of use is important.
 
I agree with you. Is Photos App in Sequoia also receiving this redesign?

At least partially, but it's still early in the beta cycle.

I have iOS and MacOS versions running right now. To be clear, I'm not using the 15.1 AI beta on MacOS because:

  • I can't install it on an external disk with an installer (at least yet)
  • Apple has said AI features won't work on data on external disks
I don't like the UI on MacOS. Again, them whacking "Days" is a miss, but beyond that there's so so so much wasted screen real estate in "Months" and "Years." Huge spacing between photos vertically and horizontally, and huge gutters on the left and right.

Hey Apple, I bought a screen to... see things on it, not be forced into viewing some transparency flex you want to show me. The transparency adds nothing but visual distraction and is a very odd choice which really makes me question the rest of the product. If they made this error here, where else have they missed that I haven't spotted yet?

Also noting there are no visible changes to edit tools, and the file formats it supports are (as always) very small in number. In LrC, I can take a properly exposed RAW and make a stunningly good HDR photo out of it, but getting that into Photos and having it display correctly on my HDR screens is not possible at this point.

Frustrating update so far.
 
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Yeah I am not on board with this. I literally have this feature set exactly where I want it and in muscle memory. It's a redesign for the sake of a redesign. Also I have 12,000 photos neatly organised into folders and galleries which is perfectly navigable. This could be a deal breaker.

This is tailoring for people who want to search through their chaos, not navigate through order. The latter is a vastly more common scenario among professionals. Again another step to dumb it all down.

The *only* reason I have a 256Gb iPhone 15 Pro is because of (a) my library is available and ordered and (b) it has a reasonably ok camera on it.

At this rate of decline I might as well just go and buy an ass end Pixel 7A or something with LineageOS and use my mirrorless instead.

UNLESS I can turn all the crap off

Edit: apologies - sounding like a demented old fart there. Not on my lawn! etc etc.
A deal breaker? lol what do you mean? What are you going to do about it?
 
A deal breaker? lol what do you mean? What are you going to do about it?

One of the main ties for me to the Apple ecosystem is Photos.app plus hardware I already own. I buy completely new hardware every 3 years (business requirement) and the next cycle is October 2024.

I literally have a Kepner Tregoe decision analysis running and quite frankly it's not looking good for Apple at the moment. Between the overpriced RAM, storage and my increasing compute demands it's starting to make poor financial sense to continue down this road. Windows + WSL2 is looking far more viable.

Note I already have a hefty workstation here which I had to buy because Apple hardware doesn't go that far unless I carve out both my kidneys. And it still doesn't have ECC for that money.
 
Where is the old "recents"? The album that used to be just images stored locally, like a camera roll. Now the "Recent Days" thing has a huge pool of pics gathered from all the albums I have, not just stuff stored locally.
 
Will I finally be able to set the cover image for shared albums without jumping through hoops?
 
but when are they going to allow clockwise rotating of photos and videos and while at it batch rotating?!
 
Ready for the Clean up to be released.... wonder with 5.1 Beta 2 will release since i can't even download the 5.1 First beta because somehow i did a fresh install and went to beta 5 on 15.0
 
Yup. You (and me too) want a basic star rating like all pro photos apps including Aperture had. But Apple in its wisdom (/s) killed Aperture...
Don’t forget we had a star rating system in iPhoto! But they killed it in Photos. I think they created keywords for each rating as a replacement (unless I did that myself - can’t recall), but that’s not quite the same.
 
Probably niche opinion but i wish i could disable all the extra features and just save and view pictures.
(Not just new ones i mean but the ones already in photos app)
 
I've been using Photos for longer than most people I know (I still remember when iPhotos debuted back in 2002). I heavily rely upon Photos for metadata on pics such as date, location, etc. This helps me tremendously when posting photos via social media especially for throwback posts, etc. I have digital photos going back to the 1990s lol. Anyway, I just hope they don't screw up the metadata like they did with iOS 17. I got into Photos daily and type in 8.12 for August 12th or whatever the date is to see past images taken on that day (or saved that day). I was frustrated when the indexing was broke but was relieved when it was repaired earlier this year (if I recall correctly). I am hopeful Photos in iOS 18 will work well for me overall. I don't participate in the public user trials anymore so hoping for the best in Sept.
 
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