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iOS 18 Speculation Thread

drak22 said:
I don't know about returns, but I know of several public cases where tech media influencers with a lot of reach have cancelled their 16 Pro Max reservation for this reason. In Spain, the reason for purchase that Apple gives you is a new color and a camera button that seems quite poorly placed. I think these are very weak sales arguments. Outside the US or the English-speaking world, the iPhone 16 is a filler generation, and that seems to be how many consumers have understood it.
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Lesson here: don’t pay attention to tech media influencers. They post to get clicks and aren’t going to post things like “I’m really happy with my iPhone 16. It’s an incremental but solid update”.

That’s not going to get them any views.

Phones, like any mature product line, are never going to have killer features introduced year after year. They simply can’t.

And that’s fine because most consumers don’t buy new phones every year. As @Pearsey relates his own story, coming from an iPhone 14 Pro to the iPhone 16 Pro was a big upgrade. Think what it’s like for someone coming from an iPhone 12 or earlier? My sister in law just upgraded from an iPhone 9 8 to an iPhone 16 Pro. She will be blown away.
 
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gwhizkids said:
Lesson here: don’t pay attention to tech media influencers. They post to get clicks and aren’t going to post things like “I’m really happy with my iPhone 16. It’s an incremental but solid update”.

That’s not going to get them any views.

Phones, like any mature product line, are never going to have killer features introduced year after year. They simply can’t.

And that’s fine because most consumers don’t buy new phones every year. As @Pearsey relates his own story, coming from an iPhone 14 Pro to the iPhone 16 Pro was a big upgrade. Think what it’s like for someone coming from an iPhone 12 or earlier? My sister in law just upgraded from an iPhone 9 to an iPhone 16 Pro. She will be blown away.
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Is the iPhone 9 some super secret iPhone never released to the public? 🤣
 
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gwhizkids said:
I realize that English is not your first language. But your argument is not a good one.

It is possible that your friends are the only people in the world returning their phones for that reason. That is unlikely but it is just as valid an argument logically as it is to extrapolate that many are returning their phones simply because your friends did.

And this time you did use the word “many”.
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It's true that English is not my first language, and I apologize for the grammar, but one thing @gwhizkids that you don't know or doubt, doesn't mean it doesn't exist!!
 
redbeard331 said:
Time is right to drop 18.2 for testing, let’s go Tim we need to eat!
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Wouldn't 18.1 have to go public first before they start testing 18.2?

I mean I know they just did simultaneous betas, but I thought that was an exception due to AI... This year is weird so who knows I guess.
 
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are we thinking beta 7 next week, RC? nothing till the following week?

october 28th is still a bit away unless that rumored release date is wrong

there has been no confirmed october event yet either
 
mattburley7 said:
are we thinking beta 7 next week, RC? nothing till the following week?

october 28th is still a bit away unless that rumored release date is wrong

there has been no confirmed october event yet either
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Im thinking next week Tuesday since Monday is a holiday. even tho apple has released Sofware updates on Columbus day before (federal holiday in US).
 
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