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iOS 19 Rumored to Be Compatible With These iPhones

obviouslogic said:
I don’t understand how some people can’t understand why some people don’t understand that the camera is the most important feature! Some people!
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Because use cases are different, Personally I use my camera once/year when i need to read mu water meter (it's mounted in an awkward place and the mechanical display has rather small numbers so having an image I can zoom in is a great help). I know this is an edge case but it still illustrates that camera upgrades might not always be a motivator for phone upgrades
 
I've been so prepared for iOS 19 dropping both the XS and 11 series and that would be my cue to finally upgrade.

I think I still will. My 11 Pro still serves me well and has been the best phone I've ever had, but one more year is probably pushing it. (The paltry 4GB of RAM is its biggest bottleneck, go figure.)
 
N0ughtsAndCr0sses said:
13 and below are really bad for night shot

I don’t understand why ppl still have those devices
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Because these devices still work and work pretty well.

I use iPhone 11 Pro, it still receives software updates, works smoothly, has great OLED screen, 2x optical zoom, records well stabilized videos in 4K 60fps with stereo sound, 256 GB of memory is more than enough for me, it’s lighter than new Pro models, it doesn’t have overheating issues like newer devices, still takes good photos, does support night mode photos (although I barely use this function), accessories and repairs are much cheaper than for newer phones, has dual SIM support, stereo speakers, most people recognize it as iPhone 13/14 Pro because of triangular camera layout 😆
 
MacRumors said:
There is slightly worse news for iPadOS 19, as the report said that update will drop support for the iPad 7 from 2019. Fortunately, the report said all other iPad models that can run iPadOS 18 will be compatible with iPadOS 19 next year.
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My 2018 iPad Pro 11" A12X will likely receive iPadOS 19 next year with final security update being received by 2028.

Will I be using 2028 iPad Pro M8 on iPadOS 23 by then?
 
Not planning on upgrading - my 11 has become so sluggish and buggy with iOS18 that there is no way I'm doing this to myself again.
 
winxmac said:
I highly doubt A12 Bionic and A13 Bionic iPhone models will get iOS 19

A14 Bionic [iPhone 12 series] most likely will be the minimum...

I have iPhone 11 Pro Max running iOS 17.7 but if they bring back the pre-iOS 18 Photos app and undo other changes, like AirDrop Everyone for 10 minutes, and if iOS 18 iPhone models can upgrade to iOS 19, I may upgrade to iOS 19

iOS 19 + iPhone 19 [skip iPhone 17 and iPhone 18]
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I have a feeling it will be this too. If you follow their timing for support for the iPhone 8/X it would be the same for the iPhone 11. The XS would just get an extra year of support with iOS 18. Plus these are their last 4G phones.
 
steve09090 said:
I’m saying that’s possibly the case. I know about battery-gate, and that Apple deliberately slowed down parts of the phone to conserve battery quality and people cried about it for years (and still do). But I am not aware of that still occurring.

So yeah, I’m gunna suggest that if someone did a side by side of a brand new XR running iOS12 and a clean install of one running iOS18, then it’d be an interesting test.

I don’t know what the result would be, but I'm into real world testing and facts. Happy with hypothesis, but not pointless bashing. Conspiracies just lowers the quality of someone’s point.
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TLDR: a brand new iPhone XS running iOS 12 vs a used iPhone XS running iOS 17.
The differences are exactly what you would expect, the phone that has been used for six years with a lower battery capacity performed *slightly* slower, but as Luke literally points out in the video, the only way you would notice is by putting the two phones side-by-side.
Which is obvious to anyone who has ever used technology, things get slower as time goes on.
And it certainly isn’t just iOS that’s the culprit, battery health is a culprit, larger application sizes, even completely external things like the fact that carriers have been slowing down their old LTE networks to make 5G look better.
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
The differences are exactly what you would expect, the phone that has been used for six years with a lower battery capacity performed *slightly* slower, but as Luke literally points out in the video, the only way you would notice is by putting the two phones side-by-side.
Which is obvious to anyone who has ever used technology, things get slower as time goes on.
And it certainly isn’t just iOS that’s the culprit, battery health is a culprit, larger application sizes, even completely external things like the fact that carriers have been slowing down their old LTE networks to make 5G look better.
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I totally agree. (I should have checked out Luke Miani because of course he is the one You-tuber who would have done this).

He also says, "We really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find any differences".

And that most differences would likely come from continual use, battery degradation. In other words an iOS upgrade DOES NOT slow an iPhone down. I would suggest any other (potential) minor differences could be the CPU because we know they do vary naturally.

WB2Colorado said:
We’re not comparing an XR to a 16, we’re comparing an XR running its original OS version to an XR running iOS 18. Are you saying there would not be a difference in performance?
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So as Luke has compared this exact scenario. The difference in performance is objectively not the iOS, at least not a 5 version upgrade to iOS17.
 
steve09090 said:
an iOS upgrade DOES NOT slow an iPhone down.
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iPhone 4s running iOS 9 wants to talk to you...

Regarding Luke Miani's video of iPhone XS running iOS 12.x with 100% battery health vs iPhone XS running iOS 17.x with 80 to 90% battery health, even if both are on 100% battery health, the one running iOS 17.x would still be slower...
 
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winxmac said:
iPhone 4s running iOS 9 wants to talk to you...

Regarding Luke Miani's video of iPhone XS running iOS 12.x with 100% battery health vs iPhone XS running iOS 17.x with 80 to 90% battery health, even if both are on 100% battery health, the one running iOS 17.x would still be slower...
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BS. So you didn’t watch the video then.
 
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