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I was confused why I couldn't edit RCS messages. I thought that was a standard feature. Proof that RCS was just a mess as it evolved, so glad that Apple steered clear, but confused why they adopted an older profile in the beginning? Good to know that Apple is moving in the right direction.
 
I was confused why I couldn't edit RCS messages. I thought that was a standard feature. Proof that RCS was just a mess as it evolved, so glad that Apple steered clear, but confused why they adopted an older profile in the beginning? Good to know that Apple is moving in the right direction.
Google put encryption on top of the standard profile. There wasn't an encryption standard. Well. Until Apple for in the game
 
What's to trust, it's E2EE

The text of the messages may be but that's hardly the extent of data mined by Meta from their WhatsApp user base. I don't want Meta knowing who my friends are, or when and how often I talk with them. I don't want them to see the photos I share with my friends (which is necessarily available to the app regardless of any E2EE). I don't want Meta seeing any aspect of my private life.
 
Even if Apple didn't want to do this, they really have to to keep privacy and security promises.

All the 2 factor authentications that people get with the very insecure SMS aren't going away any time soon - but if they were encrypted RCS messages, that would help keep people a lot safer.
 
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Even if Apple didn't want to do this, they really have to to keep privacy and security promises.

All the 2 factor authentications that people get with the very insecure SMS aren't going away any time soon - but if they were encrypted RCS messages, that would help keep people a lot safer.
I would hope with RCS 3.0 eventually those authorizations will be able to be sent securely to iPhones and Android phones via an RCS message. I don’t see why they couldn’t be sent that way and if for some reason the phone can’t accept such message it would drop back to SMS just as it works for normal text messaging.
 
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Sounds awesome

I do hope I get a few more updates to iOS for my iPhone mini 13 😀

A lot of my devices are 4 GB RAM on iOS but no where near old enough to replace… hoping to get a fair few more years out of them
 
Let’s hope that Apple ups their prices further and disallows account switching, so that “poor iPhone users” becomes a thing of the past.
I know a lot of iPhone users feel the same, else why would they use Apple's trade in program, they don't want to deal with "those" iPhone users
 
Has Apple learned nothing from the current AI situation, and their own rewording and backpedal??

Announce it when it's in the OS, not as "plans" for "future updates". No idea what they're thinking at this point.
To be fair, this is just an implementation of a new standard, not really an Apple thing.
iOS 18 uses RCS2.4, this is RCS3.0.
I’m not even sure if it was Apple who announced it, or just the GSMA, but Google announced support on the exact same day.
 
Apple could end the blue bubble / green bubble issue so easily, as with so much other low hanging fruit they ignore.
Right now it indicates whether your message is secure. When all messages are secure, I would prefer to have all messages blue. Letting people pick their colors on others' device is just a recipe for ugly. Also, probably not part of the RCS protocol.
 
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This is the real RCS update. The iOS18 one was a tease using an ancient RCS profile.
Standard RCS still doesn't include encryption to my knowledge, though it's something being worked on. Until then I don't really care what RCS standard Apple targets.

Edit: I'm wrong. RCS introduced End to End in the 3.0 standard, which was announced this month. Google hasn't implemented it yet, either.
 
Standard RCS still doesn't include encryption to my knowledge, though it's something being worked on. Until then I don't really care what RCS standard Apple targets.
Yes 3.0 will be the first one with encryption, but I think Apple intentionally gave us 2.4 last year because they knew 2.7 had the features that people actually wanted.
 
Yes 3.0 will be the first one with encryption, but I think Apple intentionally gave us 2.4 last year because they knew 2.7 had the features that people actually wanted.
Is that RCS 2.7, announced in June 2024, right? Does Google fully support it yet? I think they're still short, too.
 
Let’s hope that Apple ups their prices further and disallows account switching, so that “poor iPhone users” becomes a thing of the past.
I hope so, I miss the iPhone when it was more exclusive to have, rare in public and everyone else had different phones. Now it’s just another phone
 
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Same in Australia. Nothing has changed since iOS 18 and RCS support. All messaging between Apple and Android is still SMS with no RCS support, it’s literally 1990s tech where you can’t even send anything more than 120 plain text characters

There is a reason why WhatsApp is so popular outside of the USA. Apple has ignored the messaging between the 2 platforms for years allowing competitors to take over. The amount of Apple users outside the USA who use other messaging apps instead of iMessage is staggering.
You don’t have mms in Australia?
 
The text of the messages may be but that's hardly the extent of data mined by Meta from their WhatsApp user base. I don't want Meta knowing who my friends are, or when and how often I talk with them. I don't want them to see the photos I share with my friends (which is necessarily available to the app regardless of any E2EE). I don't want Meta seeing any aspect of my private life.
I do not share my contacts, and you don't need to. So that's solved. And if they can't see your photos because it's E2EE I'm not sure what your problem here even is? I'm constantly on a VPN so my location is rubbish. I've got it heavily restricted, and I've actually audited what's coming and going because thats something android gives you insight into. Nothing crazy. Nothing nefarious. I can't do that kind of DPI on my iPhone but the apps seems equal in features, settings and privacy parity. But if you wanna peddle fear mongering go for it
 
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Now I will praise apple. Edit messages and unsend messages sent to android from ios is a game changer

I have family members on Android and RCS is a game-changer. SMS sucks so bad
 
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Apple should keep blue for iMessage, keep green for SMS, and choose another color besides green for RCS. That way, users can more quickly glance at a message and differentiate between SMS and RCS. Tim Cook is not a products person, and the fact that SMS are RCS are the same color is yet another example of that.
 
You don’t have mms in Australia?
Yes we have had MMS for decades.
Some carriers in some countries have discontinued MMS because WhatsApp (mostly) and other over-the-top messaging apps long ago supplanted MMS — and it’s pointless expense to maintain MMS for the very few people who might use it. They keep SMS around because it’s still used for (poor) 2FA, appointment reminders, and a few other things.

I agree with the commenters upthread that Apple really missed the boat with its “keep the toddlers in the playpen” approach to communications. Even iPhone users often respond more slowly/less often to iMessages than they do to their home country’s most popular OTT app (WhatsApp usually). Apple did a great job basically handing most of the world’s messaging to Meta. Heck, there are whole governments and businesses around the world that have no viable alternative to WhatsApp (usually that) because Apple and Google could never agree on rich OTT messaging, voice, and video. Not well played! Meta and other OTT messaging apps are very well entrenched, and late-Apple-RCS could be too little too late.
 
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