They probably aren't. Just click 18+ and you're good to go.Ok but how is Apple confirming age? This is obviously the most important question and there still doesn’t appear to be an answer.
They probably aren't. Just click 18+ and you're good to go.Ok but how is Apple confirming age? This is obviously the most important question and there still doesn’t appear to be an answer.
Exactly, you'll have to use a VPN to make it appear you live in a free society instead of Texas.
This seems like a silly overreaction to me. Most stores have checked your age before you buy a mature game, movie, or magazine for several decades. Stores and restaurants also check your age before you buy alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, or several types of drugs that require prescriptions. How many issues has this caused? Any?
Parents should be in charge of what apps are on their children's phones, period.
I agree with you that we have a cultural problem of lazy and overly-permissive parents. But even the best parents can't handle everything on their own. When you send your fifteen year old out to go over a friend's house and give them $10 to buy some snacks at the store, you have to be able to trust that they won't be allowed to buy beer with it because of the societal safeguards that have been placed around that product. It should be the same with apps. Some are fine for kids, but some you’re going to have to verify your age for.Nothing is stopping them from being all over this issue already, other than parental laziness.
I see that routinely, where friends have taken exactly no time at all beyond "here's your device"...
Turning more and more things into "give me your ID" is just outsourcing issues, and also not solving the actual real problem you're, correctly, getting at.
That's a bit dramatic, so you must view society at large as Orwellian given we have age restriction laws for a plethora of things?what a distinctly Orwellian law. fascinated to see how kids find their way around it, as they always do with dumb sh*t like this
This seems like a silly overreaction to me. Most stores have checked your age before you buy a mature game, movie, or magazine for several decades. Stores and restaurants also check your age before you buy alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, or several types of drugs that require prescriptions. How many issues has this caused? Any?
Extending the same concept into digital stores seems perfectly fine to me.
Merchants are obligated to follow KYC (Know Your Customer). This has been the case for decades... they're not really changing much here, other than filling in a small gap for "free" apps.
There is an extreme difference between showing your ID in person and using it for a digital verification check. Using it online means your ID is permanently out there now for the entire world.This seems like a silly overreaction to me. Most stores have checked your age before you buy a mature game, movie, or magazine for several decades. Stores and restaurants also check your age before you buy alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, or several types of drugs that require prescriptions. How many issues has this caused? Any?
Extending the same concept into digital stores seems perfectly fine to me.
Merchants are obligated to follow KYC (Know Your Customer). This has been the case for decades... they're not really changing much here, other than filling in a small gap for "free" apps.
Like use a friends address from a different state or something!well if I was a Texas kid, imma lie about what state I’m living in
This is far beyond "knowing your customer." This is having your ID checked when entering a grocery store, or a library, places that have no business checking ID but being required to do so by the government.
Moreover, the Texas law in particular is draconian. Developers required to notify Apple and parents of every major change in functionality? Parents being required to approve every software installation and update? Kids getting their app access revoked at any time cause their parents are in a mood?
This isn't about protecting kids. This is about putting blinders on them.
Your concern is some online merchants might mishandle your ID and leak your info.There is an extreme difference between showing your ID in person and using it for a digital verification check. Using it online means your ID is permanently out there now for the entire world.
Those are funny examples, considering both grocery stores and libraries check IDs all the time.
The parents set up the account with an address. The owner of the child account cannot change these settings. A VPN will not help here.Exactly, you'll have to use a VPN to make it appear you live in a free society instead of Texas.
Well… it is.That's a bit dramatic, so you must view society at large as Orwellian given we have age restriction laws for a plethora of things?
Essentially, what will happen is that for full Internet access, you have to prove you're 18 years old. The age of 18 is considered an adult in most states, so...RIP
The Internet as we know it 😢
Soon we will be pretty much forced to identify ourselves just to use the internet on so and so devices. First it’s coming to Texas and then the rest of America once THEY decide it would be ••Good•• for the rest of the country.
This law is actually really reasonable and consistent with other age restrictions in society we place on minors. This law isn't draconian by any stretch of the word. Your comparisons are apples to oranges and entirely irrelevant. This is akin to a child trying to buy a beer or mature rated video game and getting ID checked, not getting ID checked when walking into a store.This is far beyond "knowing your customer." This is having your ID checked when entering a grocery store, or a library, places that have no business checking ID but being required to do so by the government.
Moreover, the Texas law in particular is draconian. Developers required to notify Apple and parents of every major change in functionality? Parents being required to approve every software installation and update? Kids getting their app access revoked at any time cause their parents are in a mood?
This isn't about protecting kids. This is about putting blinders on them.
iOS Developers can’t operate without Apple. Apple can’t operate without approval from authoritarian governments. Obviously!I didn’t think this was a settled law at the Supreme Court.
Apple fights developers to death but never authoritarian governments. Sad!
COPPA Act, which is basically the same thing outside of the age has seemingly not ended the internet in 25 years.RIP
The Internet as we know it 😢
Soon we will be pretty much forced to identify ourselves just to use the internet on so and so devices. First it’s coming to Texas and then the rest of America once THEY decide it would be ••Good•• for the rest of the country.
What other vice in society is handled with the logic of "they're going to do it anyway so we might as well not bother with any restrictions"? Obviously young boys are always going to find porn. They're always going to find beer and cigarettes, too. That doesn't mean it should be easy.It’s funny that parents believe they can stop adolescence boys from accessing porn. I grew up before there was an internet and my porn was from clippings of the underwear section of the Sears catalog & clippings from magazines. Porn is all in your head, no matter how puritanical you want to get, boys will be boys. When all those hormones hit it’s easy to get excited about things that interest you, even if it’s just a fantasy in your head. I remember my best friend at that age confiding in me some of his fantasies that were horrific, but they were the ideas that turned him on… he had no intention of following through on them, but when he was feeling randy those were the ideas that came to his mind. So I guess Texas wants to give parents the illusion of more control. No matter how locked down the internet becomes, boys will make their own porn. (Or find dad’s buried in a closet somewhere). BTW, good luck blocking Safari. 😇
COPPA Act, which is basically the same thing outside of the age has seemingly not ended the internet in 25 years.
Kids getting their app access revoked at any time cause their parents are in a mood?