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I doubt Apple software quality seriously since a few years ago.
Notorious UX/worlflow bugs that persist for 4 years sometimes and removing basic functions (such as phone app stripped of basic functions for years) that worked fine.
Liquid Glass just made the UX poorer and we have to endure 2 years of updates to have iOS 16 level of stability.
 
I don’t get why people aren’t happy with iOS 26? I mean I’m on a 17 pro and it’s absurdly awesome. I use the 80% charge limit an use maybe 30% of my battery a day and get 3-5 SOT with that. I don’t have any bugs. I feel like this phone is total overkill for anyone. I guess people who complain are probably the ones who are glued to their phones 8-10 hours a day.

Maybe I’m just getting old but I feel like the iPhone is great in its current state. Even my previous 14 pro felt like overkill. It was great on iOS 16. Then it went straight to hell on the first versions of 26 with overheating and then I traded it in. I’m guessing it’s probably ok enough for people now with 26.3.

I’m curious to see how much ram the 18pros will have. If it’s the same as the 17 pro maybe I’ll update to 27 but otherwise I’ll be sticking with 26 until I get a new phone in however many years.
My 16 Pro (and series 11 Watch) both saw a notable battery hit when the 26 OS's first rolled out, but now I've either gotten used to it or they've improved it by the 26.3 versions.

Liquid Glass is incredibly divisive, as you can no doubt tell, but I also find it's used so sparingly across the system that I barely notice it. Especially since only a small number of third party apps have been updated to support it. I personally think it looks fine on iPhone, okay on iPad, and terrible on the Mac. I suspect it will be a bit like the original version of Aqua where Apple sacrificed some bits of usability for eye candy and then very quietly walked some of those decisions back over subsequent releases.
 
Completely untrue. You’re just regurgitating a false narrative that old people say about the younger generations.

The complexity of macOS/iOS today is exponentially higher than in the Snow Leopard era.

It’s not about “younger devs.” It’s about scaling, security demands, cloud infrastructure, Continuous delivery cycles, Shareholder/Market pressure for feature velocity and keeping up with competitors.

Snow Leopard shipped in 2009 with no iCloud, no system-wide privacy permissions model, a much smaller security threat landscape, simpler hardware landscape, etc.

Today’s developers handle distributed systems, GPU pipelines, ML inference, sandbox security, cloud sync, CI/CD — things Snow Leopard engineers didn’t have to juggle.

Different constraints. Different problems. Different coding practices.

Apple is much larger than it was back then and their products and services are much more complicated. The bigger Apple gets, the harder the workflow becomes for the devs. Especially when they have to look thru 20+ years of other developers work.
In other words, the size and complexity of the project is out of control, and the inexperienced unqualified younger generation has no idea how to manage it. Yes, I agree. That is exactly what we're seeing.
 
Source: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2023/11/5.html



I disagree. It's a company trying to sell products. Be it software, and/or hardware, they should create good products. Blaming the increased scale and complexity of it all shouldn't be a problem. An often comparison is made with car manufacturers. What do you think about that whole process? BMW became so so because of the larger competition? No man, they keep on doing good stuff. And replace BMW by any other car brand, this one was simply shorter to type. (although perhaps Musk has released another car brand, named X.)


Sorry. My $ 0.02
Thanks for the source.

The Car manufacturing industry has had massive recalls, common mechanical problems, software-related defects, OTA patches replacing mechanical failures, etc. I just had to replace the computer in my Honda Civic two weeks ago.

Even BMW has had software reliability issues and electrical hiccups. Complexity has increased in that market as well.
 
In other words, the size and complexity of the project is out of control, and the inexperienced unqualified younger generation has no idea how to manage it. Yes, I agree. That is exactly what we're seeing.
How would that make them inexperienced or unqualified? They’re dealing with problems that are much harder than what previous developers had to deal with.

Do you think a developer back in 2009 would be able to just come out of retirement and easily fix problems in today’s modern OSs?
 
How would that make them inexperienced or unqualified? They’re dealing with problems that are much harder than what previous developers had to deal with.

Do you think a developer back in 2009 would be able to just come out of retirement and easily fix problems in today’s modern OSs?
That isn't the point. The point is mixing a decade+ of unqualified hires with one of the most complex software projects in the world is not working out all that well, and users are suffering, while the CEO is centrally focused on how to turn 140 billion per quarter into 150.
 
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My 16 Pro (and series 11 Watch) both saw a notable battery hit when the 26 OS's first rolled out, but now I've either gotten used to it or they've improved it by the 26.3 versions.

Liquid Glass is incredibly divisive, as you can no doubt tell, but I also find it's used so sparingly across the system that I barely notice it. Especially since only a small number of third party apps have been updated to support it. I personally think it looks fine on iPhone, okay on iPad, and terrible on the Mac. I suspect it will be a bit like the original version of Aqua where Apple sacrificed some bits of usability for eye candy and then very quietly walked some of those decisions back over subsequent releases.
The funny thing is that iOS 26 has run very smoothly on my iPhone 11. I even compared it to a family member who was running an iPhone 14 Pro and my 11 felt smoother overall. A lot of people have suggested that it’s the transparency in the glassy design that slows things down, but the new design is practically the only new part of iOS 26 that made it to my old iPhone and it handles it just fine. The problems people are experiencing lie deeper than the design.

As for how the design itself is received, that’s a matter of taste. I personally think that the macOS implementation is the best form of Liquid Glass and I feel that the versions on iOS and iPadOS are a bit too halfhearted.
 
About - damned - time.

On iOS26: my iPhone 17 Pro Max is almost as laggy, e.g. stuttering of PS visual effects, as my non-Pro iPhone 13.

On iPadOS26: ditto for my M5 iPP vs. my M1 iPad Air.

And on both new devices there are visual bugs for some apps, e.g. the Google apps's search bar appearing at the top of the screen with time, battery etc. Also there've been too many times a reboot was needed, like when triggering Siri who then hears nothing.
The fact that the newest devices still have lag and stutter is honestly pathetic. My wife pulled out her old iPod Touch 4th gen with iOS 6 and it was butter smooth.
 
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My suggestion for everyone is to turn on reduce motion if you have issues with Liquid Glass and/or battery. It removes the clearly graphics intensive refraction effect andmakes the glass frosted and less jarring along with a slight improvement in battery. Plus it looks better than reduce transparency.
 
That isn't the point. The point is mixing a decade+ of unqualified hires with one of the most complex software projects in the world is not working out all that well, and users are suffering, while the CEO is centrally focused on how to turn 140 billion per quarter into 150.
And is this based on any actual data or “just trust me bro”?
Looking at the people, actually in charge of what Apple ships, most of them not only are not that young, but most of them were also there during the release of Snow Leopard.
The new GUI head joined Apple in 1999, before OS X even shipped.
The previous UI head, the guy people like to blame every single aspect of liquid Glass on, joined in 2005 when Tiger was the latest OS, four years before the mythical snow leopard.
Craig Federighi was at Apple in the 90s, left, and then came back in 2009.
The current hardware chief has been at Apple since 2001, before the first iPod shipped. And he’s one of the youngest heads they have and he has *still* been at the company almost 30 years, since the early days of OS X.
Even if you look at apples other fiasco right now, which is Siri, the vast majority of people near the top of that project… Have been there since before the original iPhone shipped.
 
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So they've confirmed that iOS 26 is so bad that they need to dedicate an entire iOS version to just cleaning up the mess they made? Makes sense...

And of course we get the carrot-on-a-stick...better battery life.
I'd guess you weren't around for Snow Leopard. The first couple of dot releases were still squashing (even new) bugs, but the last couple of dot releases made what's possibly the greatest OS Apple ever released.
 
I would not be surprised iOS 27 incorporates third party app stores through the App Store app, third party access to the NFC functionality (e.g., the Walmart app now supports tap to pay in addition to QR code scanning with Walmart Pay), and a new separate Headphones app for better control with third-party wireless headphones like the Sony WF-1000XM6 and Bose QuietComfort Ultra.
 
So another boring update honestly iOS 26 didn’t bring anything new and exciting just a theme pack and even that isn’t fully done yet
Honestly, what do you want from an operative system? I’ll tell you what I want in the first place: reliability and quality of life. I want that app to boot quickly and stay there without reloading when I switch to another for a moment. I want the cursor to be in its place when I need to highlight text. I need the system to just work. And that’s what iOS 27 is supposed to do, according to this leak
 
Better battery life is always welcome. With foldable having a bigger screen, every bit of battery will be required to be conserved and used properly for Apple to advertise it as an ‘all day battery life’ iPhone. Eager to see the touch screen MacBook. Hope it has cellular connectivity too.
 
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People dont realise or dont mention, OSX used to do major release every two years. Snow Leopard was building on 2 years of polishing on Leopard, before having another 2 years of polishing itself.

Old Apple used to be conservative. Modern Apple is only better than Facebook or Google but it is still the same move fast and break things.
 
Will it finally fix autocorrect? Why is it that iOS’s autocorrect is far behind android? Daily use of this device is becoming tedious.
 
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