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I don't know about you, but after today's announcements, I am really excited about iOS 5. It brings everything I wanted too and more. I love the new notifications, the Mail.app, the WiFi sync, the new lock screen, everything!
The Cloud integration is also great and makes the iPad and the iPhone even better. Especially the documents sync.

Me too I am so excited, personally, I just can't wait for iMessage and the new notifications, gonna be so sweet.
 
That is really clunky. If you have a lot of apps having the only options being scroll through them or try to type the name (what if you don't remember the name of the app exactly) is a really annoying way to try to search for them.

Can you at least have folders so you can organize them so you don't have to scroll as much?

Personally, I prefer the OS that lets me make the most of my screen rather than wasting a lot of space (one of my issues with w7... they seem to waste a lot of space for "style" <- of which I don't even like anyways).

And you can search on iOS too if you want to do it that way.

It really depends on how you put it, I'm breaking my promise here, lol. In wp7, most of the apps I need is integrated anyway, twitter, facebook, etc. And they're gorgeous to boot. Sadly, the only folder you have is the game sections, all your games goes inside Xbox Hub.

Also, in iOS, I'm not really a fan of flicking alot of pages to view the apps, and yes you can have them organized by folder, but its so clunky, as one user have put it. If you have 1,000 apps in your phone, do you seriously use all of them 100% of the time?

In Windows Phone 7, you can pin any thing in the start screen as live tiles, which give you dynamic information of what you actually pin. I think pinning the most important things or the things you used most, is way better than searching across pages, or even via folder ala iOS, wouldn't you agree?

Both mobile OS has different approach, I'm just saying Windows Phone 7's approach, is as good as iOS, if not better.
 
Just to comment on the actual topic, it really shouldn't be iOS5. If anything, they should just name it as iOS4.5, or iOS4.1. The only big difference is iCloud and nothing more. The rest of the changes are features of apps in a jailbroken iPhone.

Heck even the wireless sync is from a rejected app. I'm not bashing Apple here. But I was expecting something from them that blow android, windows phone 7 users away. Sadly, its not the case, they've stop innovating and started copying.

Also I'm beginning to feel the sluggishness of iOS, it started in 4.3, my iPhone 4 is helluva slow now :( I wish iOS 5 would fix that.
 
There is a current sale for the USA maps for 35 bucks (down from 50 momentarily)

USA and Canada is like 45

With that sale, it would obviously make sense to get the entire US but normally you can buy them regionally for $29.99 (unless this has changed). I moved from VA to WI beginning of this year and since I had already purchased one I got the new area for $15.99.

I have TomTom as well but Navigon is definitely better with their updates and support. I also like the UI better.
 
In Windows Phone 7, you can pin any thing in the start screen as live tiles, which give you dynamic information of what you actually pin. I think pinning the most important things or the things you used most, is way better than searching across pages, or even via folder ala iOS, wouldn't you agree?

Both mobile OS has different approach, I'm just saying Windows Phone 7's approach, is as good as iOS, if not better.

Honestly? Easy, use one page as your most used app page. Most of the stuff I use I want to go into the app anyways, you're not going to put all the stuff I want to see on a little tile/box/widget(unless full page and at that point, might as well open the app) anyways. Personally I like to group stuff off though to make it easy to find (I have three pages with three themes and then folders on each page to break up the themes to more specific groups).

Windows 7 I suppose is ok if you only use a few apps but honestly, that's what I use the bar at the bottom of my iphone as well as only keeping the apps I use most open on the "task manager" (which I admit apple could have done a better job but they don't want me really using it. I will say I call BS on apple though that you don't need to manage your apps, the phone really slows down if you leave it to the phone to decide what to stay open).
 
There are plenty of apps that can add features to the iPhone such as TomTom app or Navigon app. Sure, it will cost you money. Google had the advantage because they are a search company. This requires them to have more storage farms. Apple is working on the voice thing, too. iOS 5 could use some tweaks, though.
 
The best navigation software varies from country to country. I'm in Australia and use MetroView, which I much prefer over TomTom and Navigon. Just like TomTom and Navigon, no internet connection is needed therefore one need not worry about using it where there's no/poor internet connection or when internet connection cost is prohibitive. The key advantage of MetroView is the superior speed warning system and highly accurate road speed data. When on sales, it cost less than 10 bucks.
 
Honestly? Easy, use one page as your most used app page. Most of the stuff I use I want to go into the app anyways, you're not going to put all the stuff I want to see on a little tile/box/widget(unless full page and at that point, might as well open the app) anyways. Personally I like to group stuff off though to make it easy to find (I have three pages with three themes and then folders on each page to break up the themes to more specific groups).

Windows 7 I suppose is ok if you only use a few apps but honestly, that's what I use the bar at the bottom of my iphone as well as only keeping the apps I use most open on the "task manager" (which I admit apple could have done a better job but they don't want me really using it. I will say I call BS on apple though that you don't need to manage your apps, the phone really slows down if you leave it to the phone to decide what to stay open).

that's a nice solution you have, even if I close all apps, iphone 4 is still slow, hope iOS 5 will be faster.
 
Having the iPad (and other iDevices) not require a tether anymore is great

What did you mean by this? I didn't see anything about internet sharing with other iOS devices being a native feature...would be nice though. If it were true, I'd buy an iPad.
 
Really? Looks like I'm going on ignore then, cos I don't see any advantage to iMessenger. I only have about 3 friends with iPhones, the rest have Blackberry or Android. Whatsapp offers a huge advantage over iMessenger in this respect. I you don't see my point here then there's little hope for you.

Edit: Can anyone point out a way that iMessenger is better than Whatsapp? I'm genuinely curious as to how it is any better?

whatsapp has an advantage in that it is multiplatform...but thats the only advantage

iMessenger advantages
1-free
1a- since its free, anyone you know with an iOS device WILL have it
2-seamless
whereas with whatsapp you have to open up a separate app from your basic texting app, and the other person has to actively switch to that app for every reply, iMessenger is all done seamlessly from within the SMS app...if you go to send a text to someone who is running iOS 5, it is automatically sent as an iMessage instead of a text. You could use iMessage without even knowing it if you didn't understand it fully
3-sync
Perhaps whatsapp also offers this feature, I don't have any experience with it...but say you have an iPhone AND an iPad. You are out and about, and are iMessaging your friend from your iPhone. When you get home, you decide to drop your phone in the cradle to charge, and surf the web a bit on your iPad. You can pop into iMessage on the iPad and continue that same conversation with that same person on the iPad, and all the past messages sent are on the iPad for you to review
 
It really depends on how you put it, I'm breaking my promise here, lol. In wp7, most of the apps I need is integrated anyway, twitter, facebook, etc. And they're gorgeous to boot. Sadly, the only folder you have is the game sections, all your games goes inside Xbox Hub.

Also, in iOS, I'm not really a fan of flicking alot of pages to view the apps, and yes you can have them organized by folder, but its so clunky, as one user have put it. If you have 1,000 apps in your phone, do you seriously use all of them 100% of the time?

In Windows Phone 7, you can pin any thing in the start screen as live tiles, which give you dynamic information of what you actually pin. I think pinning the most important things or the things you used most, is way better than searching across pages, or even via folder ala iOS, wouldn't you agree?

Both mobile OS has different approach, I'm just saying Windows Phone 7's approach, is as good as iOS, if not better.

I have a WP7 phone, and love it...but I think you will be slightly disappointed with your expectations for live tiles. When Mango comes, that will probably change, but for now, most apps from the marketplace don't support them, and those that do, they don't work very well.

As for launching apps, its not as bad as other posters have implied...scrolling is so smooth that it is not an issue. I have 43 apps and can easily jump through the list with a single flick if need be. Again, this is improving with mango, adding a jump list and search to the apps section

though there are no folders, all music apps are accessible from the music hub, all photo apps (like editing) are accessible from within the pictures hub, etc...hub integration is really nice. And you can open up an app simply by speaking its name too...cool and convenient

as for "wasted space," I can see how one might think that, but I personally feel the first thing you should see when you unlock your phone is pertinent information, not a sea of apps. With WP7, I see missed calls, messages, emails, my next calendar appointment, the statuses of my closest friends (sometimes even including their most recent picture update on the homescreen...cool), and the weather, all at a glance. Its great

Don't get me wrong, I love iOS, and plan on getting the iPhone 5, but my time with WP7 has been a refreshing break
 
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