iOS 5 to Finally Deliver Over-The-Air Updates?

and waste data? i dont know...how useful is this...really?

how hard is it to update via itunes? i just think we as a society are trying to come up with "innovative" and convenient things that are rather pointless.

others may find it useful, but why would one need to update on the go?
 
I'd bet a large part of the negotiations are how the OTA updates would be billed. Apple wants the OTA update transparent and free for metered internet plans. Verizon wants money for each OTA update.
 
Not interested in this. It's not really any more convenient to do this OTA. Just plug your phone in for 10 mins and install it in the evening. I could maybe see this working over Wi-Fi but for a lot of places this would destroy peoples data caps.
 
two thoughts on this

1. hopefully they are not automatic and you have the option of downloading... could make jailbreaks a mess, but i bet if they are auto updates, someone in the jb community will release a tweak in cydia that stops it from automatically downloading the latest firmware.

2. If this is really going to happen, apple is going to have to stop releasing the entire OS as an update... the "location bug" update today was around 1gb.... will be atrocious to download OTA... also better not go against data usage for the poor people who are on capped data plans.

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canucksfan88 said:
and waste data? i dont know...how useful is this...really?

how hard is it to update via itunes? i just think we as a society are trying to come up with "innovative" and convenient things that are rather pointless.

others may find it useful, but why would one need to update on the go?
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Its probably not very useful to many, if any around here, but you would be surprised how many people never update their phones through the computer. A lot of people never plug the phone back into their computer once it's set up. OTA updates would help these people ensure their devices are more secure and that they are running the most up to date software.
 
canucksfan88 said:
and waste data? i dont know...how useful is this...really?
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You'd be able to update over Wifi too, of course.

others may find it useful, but why would one need to update on the go?
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If you are away from your Mac that you sync with for an extended period of time.

I can't wait for this. Call me lazy, but I'm two small updates behind because I can't be bothered to sync my iPhone for fixes that don't affect me.

I'm hoping for wireless syncing with iTunes as well. The less I have to connect via a cable, the better.
 
What are you a sloth? It sounds like you rarely use your Mac. Updates are pretty far in-between to be that lazy:confused:




constantsnags! said:
It's ridiculous that iOS hasn't already had this enabled - having to crawl back to my Mac to update my phone or iPad is just a total pain....
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Att people will have it over wifi only while verizon will allow it on 3G. That's probably how it will play out. OTA can be pushed out by apple's servers regardless. It's up to the carriers to allow it without charging you big time for it.
 
All I can say is as a jailbreaker, I hope they have an opt-out feature, or I'm sticking with 4.x
 
mrgstiffler said:
I want to see wifi syncing first...
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i feel like this would be a real battery killer... maybe not if you are just adding a few apps and cd's but when i sync ~6gb of music, contacts, calanders, apps, etc. it's a pretty long process over USB... don't even want to know how long it would take over wi-fi, nor would I want to sit around the house for a few hours to finish updating my phone all while the battery is getting raped.
 
treyjustice said:
hope they aren't automatic then people will lose their jailbreaks!
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what he said. I'm currently not j/b, but I still would like the option...

best thing apple would do here is component-ize iOS better such that updates don't require 100s of megs of downloads. say you need just a safari update, safari shows up in your update list. etc etc...
 
Wirelessly update everything

Please Apple, wirelessly update everything (iTunes, iPhotos etc). It is long overdue. Plugging my iPhone into my MacBook make absolutely little sense.

Cinch
 
Wireless updates sound delightful, but what sounds even better is wireless syncing. We should be able to do this already without having to jailbreak our devices. Even the damn zune can do it :(
 
I do not understand half the comments in this thread.

Data caps for 3G download (if it is allowed)? What else would the negotiations be about? Downloading over wifi?

Unavoidable, uncontrollable, and unexpected iOS upgrades? Seriously?

How could Apple possibly solve the issue of backing up data for users of iOS 5... the version of iOS strongly rumored to include support for Apple's revamped cloud stroage solution.

This development just strengthens the other rumors. It fits together rather nicely. Hopefully there's some validity to it. Tying it to a single computer's iTunes has been a nuisance from time to time.

It's late. Sorry for the snark.
 
Cougarcat said:
I'm hoping for wireless syncing with iTunes as well. The less I have to connect via a cable, the better.
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Agree. I think the iPhone should be an independent device with the benefit of having access to the iTunes ecosystem.
 
Due to the high bandwidth requirement, it seems Apple needs to negotiate deals with individual carriers to allow such a system to take place.
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Great. This means iPhone in the US will probably be carrier-locked forEVER. :( As much as I like OTA updates, I rather have iPhones to be independent from the US carriers first.
 
xxBURT0Nxx said:
i feel like this would be a real battery killer... maybe not if you are just adding a few apps and cd's but when i sync ~6gb of music, contacts, calanders, apps, etc. it's a pretty long process over USB... don't even want to know how long it would take over wi-fi, nor would I want to sit around the house for a few hours to finish updating my phone all while the battery is getting raped.
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I would imagine just using your dock plugged into a wall anywhere in the house while your device gets updated - or maybe the new devices will use some sort of Induction Charge and just lay it down on the mat and it will charge and also sync/update wirelessly.
 
I don't want OTA updates, especially if it uses your data allocation. I can see it being an option, but definitely I want to be able to opt-in to. I much prefer using iTunes, it just seems to make everything consistent.

TEG
 
gkarris said:
I would imagine just using your dock plugged into a wall anywhere in the house while your device gets updated - or maybe the new devices will use some sort of Induction Charge and just lay it down on the mat and it will charge and also sync/update wirelessly.
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so i can sync over wifi, which is going to be slow as hell, and i still have to keep my device on a charging pad or in a dock? Why wouldn't i just plug it into the damn computer to speed up the process?
 
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