iOS 5 to Offer Significant Voice Integration? Fall iPhone 5 Launch Opens Door to LTE?

[X2468]

BS. 3G was fully matured at the time of release of the first Iphone. It had been commercially adopted for over 5 years at that point in time.

Finally the truth. I know because I've been using 3G phones since the first day AT&T rolled them out. Call quality was immediately improved as was data transfer speeds. The various phones sold in those years all demonstrated the distinct advantage.

Apple and their biased partners in the blogosphere are the masters of spin.

Don't get me wrong I'm a huge Apple enthusiast, but I'm a bigger supporter of the truth.

Hopefully when the day arrives that Jobs moves on, integrity, ethics and truth will be allowed back into the organization.

 

[DiamondMac]

Finally the truth. I know because I've been using 3G phones since the first day AT&T rolled them out. Call quality was immediately improved as was data transfer speeds. The various phones sold in those years all demonstrated the distinct advantage.

Apple and their biased partners in the blogosphere are the masters of spin.

Don't get me wrong I'm a huge Apple enthusiast, but I'm a bigger supporter of the truth.

Hopefully when the day arrives that Jobs moves on, integrity, ethics and truth will be allowed back into the organization.

What is the truth exactly? I understand what you mean that 3G was more along then some think but I get the impression (and I could be wrong) that you are saying that it is Apples fault for AT&Ts network issues?

 

[andyx3x]

First off, I don't think there will be an iPhone with LTE until 2012. The reason being is that the battery life will suck and there will not be enough coverage for most people.

Second, would you rather have an iPhone 4 or a new LTE iPhone with crappy battery life? I'll take the iPhone 4 all day long.

 

[X2468]

Maybe it's time to upgrade the screen size to get more under the hood (and stick the antenna back in there).

Precisely.

I hope they widen it by 2mm so there's room for a modest bezel, instead of that ultra thin example seen a short while ago. There's got to be a little room for a case to overlap the front edges a bit.

If they put the antenna back inside, then the case edges can be shaped for style and comfort. The iPhone 4's edges are just too plain looking. Other than proving they could make a fragile glass phone, it's a pain to hold securely if you're active.

I truly believe this could be a significant upgrade over the 4 if Apples willing to put out the effort.

Just look at the terrific job they did with the new MBA's. If they put the same effort into the next iPhone it will be an incredible model that will get lots of positive press.

 

[davelanger]

I'd be fine with waiting till fall to upgrade my 3GS if it meant LTE. Yes, I know the tech is nascent but the timing would seriously suck for entering a 2 year contract on a phone without it. That's the main problem. I don't want to have to wait till 2013 or upgrade after just one year (and there's no guarantee either carrier would allow it).

How do you think I feel, Im stuck with the iphone 3g (i got it a few months before the 3gs came out) and now I will have to wait to fall, UGH

 

[X2468]

What is the truth exactly? I understand what you mean that 3G was more along then some think but I get the impression (and I could be wrong) that you are saying that it is Apples fault for AT&Ts network issues?

I was referring to this sentence (below) from the article. It's false. The truth is 3G in general, not just AT&T's network was very mature.

Next is the fact that Apple did not choose a chip that was 100% compatible with the network, despite being advised of what the correct chip was, as tested and proven by other manufacturers. I bought the original iPhone as my personal phone, in addition I carried my work issued 3G Samsung Blackjack. When I could not make a call or hold a signal with my iPhone, I'd pickup the Blackjack and it was loud, clear and rarely ever dropped a call. So that was proof positive that AT&T was not the problem.

I really - really like Apple, but dislike some of their tactics like finger pointing when a problem arises.

A familiar example is the very moment that the antenna issue came up, instead of Jobs acting professional and saying something like " we were unaware and will look into it ". No, he had to be a condescending jerk and say " you're holding it wrong". That's arrogant to the extreme, uncalled for, and unacceptable. The only reason he got away with it is because he's Steve Jobs. A man that sadly, many people worship. They have higher esteem for him than themselves. Pitiful really.

Apple waited to adopt 3G technology until is had significantly matured, opting to release the original iPhone as an EDGE-only device despite relatively widespread 3G coverage

 

[SactoGuy18]

I think in the end, if the iPhone 5 arrives around October 2011, I expect to have the following features:

1) Will look like an 4G iPod touch but thicker to accommodate larger battery, cellphone circuitry, cellphone antenna and the five-megapixel back image sensor.

2) Display will be 4.0" (diagonal) IPS LCD touchscreen.

3) Will use A5 CPU/GPU with 512 MB of RAM, though 1 GB of RAM is possible.

4) Flash memory storage in 16, 32 and 64 GB capacities.

5) Will use next-generation Qualcomm or Broadcom cellphone chipset that supports GSM, CDMA or LTE. Will include micro SIM slot for GSM usage.

6) Antenna will be completely redesigned to avoid potential "dead spots" when held in a certain manner.

7) Will include for first time near-field communications (NFC) communications capability, and will likely support the Sony-developed FeliCa NFC standard so it can be easily used in Japan, South Korea and Hong Kong.

8) Will use iOS 5.0, which will come out the same time as the iPhone 5.

 

[MattInOz]

A couple years ago, 4G meant LTE. Now it means HSPA+. I have no doubt that the next iPhone will be 4G capable, but it won't be LTE. I doubt that delaying the typical launch would have anything to do with including 4G.

Ummm.... I was of the impression that in a couple of markets People tried to promote HSPA+ as 4G and got smacked. Pretty much 4G must be a true 4G tech like LTE to use the name.

Hey I can see 4G/LTE as something Apple will want to get on early. I mean it's a big fat pipe technology. So no more one pipe for digital voice one for digital data.

 

[Kauai]

A 4" screen is more important to me than 4g. After using 4'3" devices, 3'5" feels downright puny.

 

[bushman4]

Heres my question..........Iphone4 is reaching maturity as the number sold has decreased each day as many await the iphone5. How will Apple compensate for revenue and profit in these 2 quarters???? Ipad2 isn't going to make up the difference. I wouldn't count the Iphone5 out yet in late June or July unless there is a part shortage from Japan.
Remember Apple is not the type of company that must put every feature into its upcoming product.

 

[Secruoser]

Hopefully when the day arrives that Jobs moves on, integrity, ethics and truth will be allowed back into the organization.

Integrity, ethics and truth will never happen in a competitive social system that is based on money and profit unless the company wants to go bankrupt. That's what PR is for: telling lies in the most acceptable way to the public. Still lies.

 

[cmwhitley]

ME ME ME ME! because you want a new phone when you want it, apple sucks? geeze what are we, 12?

I never said that Apple sucks. Actually, in my last post, I said that I loved the iPhone, and that I thought it was a great product. I was merely expressing my disappointment/frustration with the possible changing of the product refresh cycles this year. Again, they have the right to release their products when they want. But my 3G just isn't really functional for me anymore, and I'm gonna need to upgrade sooner rather than later. I wish I could upgrade to another iPhone this summer, but that doesn't look like it's gonna happen. So I may have to upgrade to something else.

 

[ChromeAce]

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The iPhone 5 will not be released until 2012. The next iPhone will be called the iPhone 4G.

Until then, any self-respecting journalist should refer to it as "the fifth-generation iPhone."

Thank you, and seriously they are not going to make the jump to Iphone 5 for another generation after this one, that I think is still going to come out on time, with an A5 processor in June. I will be making the move from my 3Gs to the next gen as soon as it comes out. Btw I am not basing my knowledge of a summer Iphone release on the fact that apple has not let me down yet year after year of releasing Iphones early into the summer.

Your logic is flawed. Why would the 6th generation iPhone be called iPhone 5? Apple just got out of the naming sequence and looks like will be following a numerical sequence now. It would be stupid in a marketing aspect to go from iPhone 3G to iPhone 3, as customers would like to see additional things in the name, not the removal of a letter.
iPad -> iPad 2, iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5.
It makes the most sense, and btw when people call it "iPhone 5" they're referring it as the 5th generation iPhone because it's a faster way of saying just that.

iPhone = iPhone 1
iPhone 3G = iPhone 2
iPhone 3GS = iPhone 3
iPhone 4 = iPhone 4
iPhone 5 = iPhone 5

In regards to the OP. I'm very excited about the iPhone 5 now, it seems as though waiting for September will be worth it if we're to see a completely revamped iOS + A5 Dual Core CPU + Upgraded GPU + 4" screen + NFC + possible LTE upgradability.

The iPhone and iPhone 3G have kicked the can update-wise, now it's your turn iPhone 3GS.

The name "iPhone 4G" adds a letter, it doesn't remove one. It allows a 4G phone to be marketed as such, just as they did with the 3G.

 

[zekegri]

Siri

SIRI rocks! The BEST, by far, voice recognition right out of the gate I have EVER tried-it is quite amazing and I wish Apple all the best integrating it-great choice! Put it into a remote control to provide functions- "turn to sports channel" " record this movie" "next, previous" etc.............

 

[04mach1]

How do you think I feel, Im stuck with the iphone 3g (i got it a few months before the 3gs came out) and now I will have to wait to fall, UGH

I am in the same boat and don't know what to do....

 

[X2468]

The name "iPhone 4G" adds a letter, it doesn't remove one. It allows a 4G phone to be marketed as such, just as they did with the 3G.

I don't care what they call it, just build one that can make calls without blaming the carrier for Apples sloppy work.

Funny how not long ago there was a poll and most who responded voted to keep the tiny 3.5" display. Now that the fanboys god has considered a 4.0" suddenly the push-back went away. So hypocritical, fanboys wait for their god to tell them what's good for them.

 

[Eso]

Ummm.... I was of the impression that in a couple of markets People tried to promote HSPA+ as 4G and got smacked. Pretty much 4G must be a true 4G tech like LTE to use the name.

Nope.

 

[davelanger]

I am in the same boat and don't know what to do....

I am just going to wait, I know if I get an iphone 4 now then in 4-6 months the iphone 5 comes out I will be kicking myself. Its just like I couldnt wait a few months for the 3gs when I got the iphone 3g. I was kicking myself.

 

[04mach1]

I am just going to wait, I know if I get an iphone 4 now then in 4-6 months the iphone 5 comes out I will be kicking myself. Its just like I couldnt wait a few months for the 3gs when I got the iphone 3g. I was kicking myself.

I think I am going to wait to. Kicking myself also....

 

[Pink∆Floyd]

Nope.

Why wasn't I surprised it was you who gave this answer...

sigh

 

[Eso]

Why wasn't I surprised it was you who gave this answer...

sigh

You aren't very good at this. Consequently, I'm sure I must explain why:

You consistently post unsubstantiated claims of which you know nothing about, often in direct opposition to demonstrable facts, such as this one, this one, this one, and this one. As such, it's not surprising when you post a reply that follows the same theme: denying the existence of anything that negatively portrays the products or services you are personally invested in.

It's a pattern born from the same insecurity that would cause one to name himself after said product.

Your attempt at trolling me doesn't even make sense because the referenced posts don't have any similarities.

 

[johnnyjibbs]

I hope they significantly improve the voice recognition abilities if they are to make it a more prominent feature of the OS. The voice control in iOS is appalling - it has NEVER ONCE understood me - and the results appear to be worse if talked to through the headphones mic. In fact, I'm always forced to scurry into my pocket to try to cancel a call to some person I haven't spoken to in years...

Maybe it just doesn't work with British accents?

 

[MattInOz]

Nope.

oops... your right I'd missed the ITU's back flip.
So I guess 4G means whatever, or nothing....

I guess the real 4G will be 6 or 7G but the time the marketing departments get their way.

 

[jayenh]

Your logic is flawed. Why would the 6th generation iPhone be called iPhone 5? Apple just got out of the naming sequence and looks like will be following a numerical sequence now. It would be stupid in a marketing aspect to go from iPhone 3G to iPhone 3, as customers would like to see additional things in the name, not the removal of a letter.
iPad -> iPad 2, iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5.
It makes the most sense, and btw when people call it "iPhone 5" they're referring it as the 5th generation iPhone because it's a faster way of saying just that.

iPhone = iPhone 1
iPhone 3G = iPhone 2
iPhone 3GS = iPhone 3
iPhone 4 = iPhone 4
iPhone 5 = iPhone 5

In regards to the OP. I'm very excited about the iPhone 5 now, it seems as though waiting for September will be worth it if we're to see a completely revamped iOS + A5 Dual Core CPU + Upgraded GPU + 4" screen + NFC + possible LTE upgradability.

The iPhone and iPhone 3G have kicked the can update-wise, now it's your turn iPhone 3GS.

agreed.

apple messed up when they didn't call the 3G the "iphone 2" (which was actually caused by not putting 3G in the iphone in the first place, they had to broadcast 3G capability because there was so much moaning about the original iphone being edge only), we had to have a 3GS rather than "iphone 3" to avoid confusion, and now we have the iphone 4 (note how the iphone 4 is the 4th iphone). i doubt we will see them go back to numbers and letters again and they don't need to, especially now that the iphone is such a well known device. it's capabilities don't need to be included in the name anymore.

 

[MikeDTyke]

this is surprising. I feel like if apple does the voice integration into ios well enough, it could be the future of ios. Sort of like how multitouch got things started, voice will bring it even further. I bet there were tons of people out there who were doubting touchscreens on phones 4 years ago. Everyone still wanted a keyboard.

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