iOS 5 to Offer Significant Voice Integration? Fall iPhone 5 Launch Opens Door to LTE?

[green86]

Something tells me that one still using a 3GS isn't likely a must have "latest and greatest" kind of consumer. I had a 3GS which I bought on Day One. ATT let nearly everyone upgrade early to the 4 so I did. It was a no brainer. Why you stuck it out w/ the 3GS I can't say but to be bitching and moaning Apple doesn't upgrade fast enough like you are is silly. If you only upgrade every 3 years what difference would more frequent upgrades possibly make in your life? I think you protesteth too much.

Something tells me your drinking Apple koolaid.

I had the original iPhone when it was less then two months old, and bought the 3gs shortly after it's release too.

Not that it is any of your business, but I upgrade in my equipment in cycles. Instead of the craptastic iPhone 4, I bought a Sony Nex-5 with three lenses and a MacBook Pro i7 HR. This year it's time for a new phone. Soon.

It was a nobrainer for me not to upgrade to a POS. Hopefully they will get it right.. on time this time. I'm not bitching and moaning about slower release cycles, it's a stupid idea when a company like Apple has the ability to do the opposite. Maybe your ok waiting longer for old tech... ever wonder why PPC was ditched? But you must be happy with your PowerBook.

Its ok though. I used to be like you, taking opinions & shots at Apple personally. You might get out of it IF your smart enough.... Maybe not though in that case though.

 

[cvaldes]

Maybe they're waiting for HSPA+ to become more widespread. As it stands, only a few major cities have the expanded backhaul

That's just the U.S. and specifically AT&T lagging.

The rest of the world has built out their HSPA+ networks and many of them have upgraded speeds a couple of times.

 

[rovex]

voice control sucks for those who don't speak English. As it will of course be optimized for English and other languages won't be as effective in recognizing what is being said.

 

[kxbcvoi]

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I wait for iPhone 5 and iOS 5.

 

[msb3079]

Something tells me your drinking Apple koolaid.

I had the original iPhone when it was less then two months old, and bought the 3gs shortly after it's release too.

Not that it is any of your business, but I upgrade in my equipment in cycles. Instead of the craptastic iPhone 4, I bought a Sony Nex-5 with three lenses and a MacBook Pro i7 HR. This year it's time for a new phone. Soon.

It was a nobrainer for me not to upgrade to a POS. Hopefully they will get it right.. on time this time. I'm not bitching and moaning about slower release cycles, it's a stupid idea when a company like Apple has the ability to do the opposite. Maybe your ok waiting longer for old tech... ever wonder why PPC was ditched? But you must be happy with your PowerBook.

Its ok though. I used to be like you, taking opinions & shots at Apple personally. You might get out of it IF your smart enough.... Maybe not though in that case though.

I'm not sure how you can call the iPhone 4 a "POS". I've had all the iPhones and it is MUCH better in about 10 different ways. Don't listen to all the stupid BS about the antenna... I've NEVER had the issue unless I sat they and tried to do it exactly as told. Even then, minimal. iPhone 4 has many more features, and even just the design, makes the previous ones look like toys.

If I were involved in the design and heard comments like that, I'd be offended. Or actually, probably just ignore it, since the person saying that doesn't know what they're saying... sorry to be mean, but I just don't get it.

 

[roland.g]

Except to get in on the September iPod refresh timeframe. Read this.

I have read that. But sorry, they aren't losing iPad holiday sales due to the iPad x+1 coming the next spring. Most people aren't that in tune, and when they get xmas gifts, they're happy to have a $500-700 gift, they're not worried that it will upgraded in a few months. The display doubling is not realistic nor is it necessary for 2011. Apple has already jumped ahead of the Android market with the iPad 2 and will keep a comfy lead this year. Look at how hard it is to get one. They haven't even been able to ship internationally yet. And they are still weeks out on US orders. They won't be coming out with a Pro, HD 2.5 or 3.0 iPad this year.

Having an April release cycle make fine sense for them.

 

[AAPL addict]

Siri = Search

Wow! This is huge news. It looks like Siri is Apple's entry into the Search business. I'm sure the boys at Google aren't happy as I'm guessing this will be the first real competition for them since the great firewall in China started blocking them. I can't wait until WWDC this Summer for Apple to present it.

 

[colearnek]

Hey, no need to be mean!

Something tells me that one still using a 3GS isn't likely a must have "latest and greatest" kind of consumer. I had a 3GS which I bought on Day One. ATT let nearly everyone upgrade early to the 4 so I did. It was a no brainer. Why you stuck it out w/ the 3GS I can't say but to be bitching and moaning Apple doesn't upgrade fast enough like you are is silly. If you only upgrade every 3 years what difference would more frequent upgrades possibly make in your life? I think you protesteth too much.

I am still on a 3GS and no ATT did NOT offer me any kind of early upgrade deal so I chose to spend what money I had on an iPad. I am not complaining - I'm just saying. My contract just came up and I was really looking forward to getting a new iPhone this year but now I am worried about upgrading to a small time iPhone4 refresh and being trapped into another two year contract when everyone upgrades to a fancy new iPhone5 next year.

No I do not blame Apple for this at all but that doesn't mean it's not frustrating for me. If they need to change their timeline of course they should but i am not sure i can stomach another 6mo to a year on a 3GS.

 

[Lotso]

And this is one of the big reasons why I'm doubting this rumor about LTE.

The technology on the carrier end of things is still nascent, at best. I don't think Apple would invest lots of time and money to launch technology that would be barely functional upon launch.

I had always assumed that the 2012 iteration of the iPhone would be the very first to have LTE because that would give both the carriers and Apple enough time to work out the kinks.

I think it's vastly more probable that bloggers are becoming antsy about the lack of verifiable iPhone rumors compared to this time last year. Apple has probably tightened up their leaks and speculators are left on the sidelines throwing out inconsistent theories.

I'm still betting that we see a modest bump the iPhone 4's specs, the white version, and increased storage capacity and this will be the iPhone 5.

Thank you! Finally some sense.

AT&T doesn't even have LTE deployed yet. They say on the official At&t FAQ that LTE will start being deployed by the middle of 2011. Even if Apple waited until September the LTE would just be getting started and the coverage would be too lacking.

LTE iPhone is in 2012

 

[CalBoy]

No I do not blame Apple for this at all but that doesn't mean it's not frustrating for me. If they need to change their timeline of course they should but i am not sure i can stomach another 6mo to a year on a 3GS.

I have a 3gs still as well (since I never got my white iPhone 4...), and if any of these rumors turn out to be true, my plan is to string along the 3gs until the next iPhone is launched, or until it becomes clear that a hardware update isn't on the horizon.

However, I think it's very unlikely that Apple is going to slip so far with iPhone launching. September has always been the month of iPods. There is no sense in bottlenecking multiple product launches into a single month. If this rumor is true, it would mean that Apple might launch Lion, an iPhone, iPods, and possibly even iOS all in the same month or in close proximity. This goes against Apple's methods in every way. The iOS lineup is very clearly spaced out to take advantage of both the back-to-school season and Christmas.

Launching 3 or 4 products within a few weeks of each other would cause problems for Foxconn, suppliers, shippers, 3rd party retailers, and Apple Stores.

Thank you! Finally some sense. AT&T doesn't even have LTE deployed yet. They say on the official At&t FAQ that LTE will start being deployed by the middle of 2011. Even if Apple waited until September the LTE would just be getting started and the coverage would be too lacking.

LTE iPhone is in 2012

Indeed. Apple hasn't exactly been too keen to pounce on the bleed edge of technology, especially when it comes to tech that other companies are responsible for managing and deploying.

I could be horribly wrong, of course, but I just think there are too many problems with these September theories to give them much credence. There might be a genuine technical problem that's causing problems, but that's quite different from an intentional desire to hold back the phone to implement a new, barely available, piece of tech.

 

[LeoNobilis]

Good news.

Siri is powered by Nuance' speech recognition engine! That translates to very efficient speech transcription, much better than Google's, for example (N.B.: The first version of Nuance Dictate was an absolute nonsense; it couldn't recognise a word out of ten of proper English, but the subsequent iterations were improved immensely).

I'm glad to know that iOS 5 will likely have a thorough voice recognition integration.
Also, add Swype to iPhone's current input system!
And house the network settings (Wifi on-off, 3G/4G on-off) in a collapsible menu, available from both the home screen and any application.

As for hardware, see to it that iPhone 6 has at least 128 GB storage and a 4.3 or larger screen! That, provided that Apple doesn't want to lose a customer in me, obviously.

Also, Apple, do manufacture a Swype input peripheral, half the size of Apple's Bluetooth Keyboard. Rather like the Magic Trackpad, but with a high resolution electronic screen and a customiseable (multi-language) soft keyboard. Compatible with Macs, iPads and iPhones. Induction-rechargeable (with somewhat like the Mobee Magic Mouse charger included in the package). I swear, I'd buy one at once!

 

[green86]

I'm not sure how you can call the iPhone 4 a "POS". I've had all the iPhones and it is MUCH better in about 10 different ways. Don't listen to all the stupid BS about the antenna... I've NEVER had the issue unless I sat they and tried to do it exactly as told. Even then, minimal. iPhone 4 has many more features, and even just the design, makes the previous ones look like toys.

If I were involved in the design and heard comments like that, I'd be offended. Or actually, probably just ignore it, since the person saying that doesn't know what they're saying... sorry to be mean, but I just don't get it.

I could cause the antenna to lose all its bars by placing my one finger on the antenna... Thats ridiculous. And anyone who has one, on the At&T network and says "I've never dropped a call" is a fanboi in the worst way and flat out lying. All my iPhones, - and even non-iPhones - on AT&T's network drop calls period, all the time. Even if the antenna design was perfect on the iPhone 4, it would drop calls because of At&T's network, so yea... I don't believe that in a second.

Not to mention all the problems people were having with the screen, and the proximity sensors... and thats all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there is/was more. Also, I refused to buy another iPhone that didn't have more than 32 GB of space, since I'm currently maxing out the capacity on my current 32 GB iPhone. Thus, I decided not to upgrade to avoid dealing with all that. Really, the 4 was just problems and a few spec increases. The increased resolution of the display means nothing to me without a larger screen, and the 3GS was fast enough at the time. The one and only thing that I would have enjoyed is the bump in RAM.

Also, design-wise, I'd take the original iPhone over any of the others. It's too bad the AL causes havoc with radio signals. I would think someone who supposedly had all the iPhones would agree. And at least not think it looked like a "toy".

Good thing your not a designer, since when you designed crap and people called you out on it you'd be offended. You'd probably not be able to emotionally handle it.

And I 100% know what I'm talking about. Because I have an Anti-Apple opinion doesn't mean I'm ill-informed and I don't know what I'm talking about. I've worked on and dealt with enough electronics to have an informed opinion.

 

[brdswp]

Next iPhone will be on 11/11/11

My prediction is that the next iPhone will go on sale Friday, 11/11/11, just in time for Christmas sales. Apple can't let a cool date like that go by without something big happening. My guess is that it will called iPhone 4G, not iPhone 5.

 

[URFloorMatt]

LTE is the only possible feature that makes postponing the iPhone 5 to the fall a smart decision. I am not convinced it's going to happen, but I don't understand all these comments about how this fall would be "too soon." Most of the major phones released this year have 4G capability. Anyone who buys an iPhone 5 in Sept/Oct will be stuck with it until almost 2013, when LTE will be widespread on both AT&T and Verizon.

I can't possibly imagine anyone (who lives on the coasts, anyway) buying a smartphone in Sept/Oct 2011 that is not LTE capable.

I think Apple is on to something here. No matter what amazing features the iPhone 5 has, if it came in June or July and it didn't have LTE capability, then the refrain across its lifetime would be: "Yeah, it's a great phone, but it's not 4G."

After all the antennagate hype, Apple doesn't need to build a similar failure right into the iPhone 5. And, as others have pointed out, this allows Apple to go back to its previous naming convention, by following the iPhone 4 with the iPhone 4G.

 

[Reach9]

The iPhone 5 will not be released until 2012. The next iPhone will be called the iPhone 4G.

Until then, any self-respecting journalist should refer to it as "the fifth-generation iPhone."

Thank you, and seriously they are not going to make the jump to Iphone 5 for another generation after this one, that I think is still going to come out on time, with an A5 processor in June. I will be making the move from my 3Gs to the next gen as soon as it comes out. Btw I am not basing my knowledge of a summer Iphone release on the fact that apple has not let me down yet year after year of releasing Iphones early into the summer.

Your logic is flawed. Why would the 6th generation iPhone be called iPhone 5? Apple just got out of the naming sequence and looks like will be following a numerical sequence now. It would be stupid in a marketing aspect to go from iPhone 3G to iPhone 3, as customers would like to see additional things in the name, not the removal of a letter.
iPad -> iPad 2, iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5.
It makes the most sense, and btw when people call it "iPhone 5" they're referring it as the 5th generation iPhone because it's a faster way of saying just that.

iPhone = iPhone 1
iPhone 3G = iPhone 2
iPhone 3GS = iPhone 3
iPhone 4 = iPhone 4
iPhone 5 = iPhone 5

In regards to the OP. I'm very excited about the iPhone 5 now, it seems as though waiting for September will be worth it if we're to see a completely revamped iOS + A5 Dual Core CPU + Upgraded GPU + 4" screen + NFC + possible LTE upgradability.

The iPhone and iPhone 3G have kicked the can update-wise, now it's your turn iPhone 3GS.

 

[rlmccormick]

Slightly off topic but....

For those of us who have been waiting, the new LTE Samsung MiFi is now available for order on Verizon's webpage!!

 

[epicshredder]

I'm all for apple pushing back the iPhone 5 so they can incorporate 4G. This would make sense since ATT is currently buying T-Mobile who has had 4G all over commercials for a while. If apple waits til 2012 to be the last phone to adopt 4G then sales would definitely take a little hit. I remember getting the original iPhone 3G, and its not like 3G was everywhere then... pretty much big city metropolis areas anyways.

Voice activated GPS?

 

[cmwhitley]

You're right. How insensitive of them to not base their business decisions on your upgrade cycle. No, wait. That's ridiculous. Never mind.

If the reports are to be believed, if they were to release iPhone 5 in June it wouldn't have LTE. You'd just be getting a slightly upgraded version of the 4. Wouldn't you rather wait another 4 months and get something much more future-proof?

As I said, they have the right to release their products when they want. I'm not suggesting that they release new updates based on my upgrade schedule. BUT, it's still not cool with ME, because of the way my upgrade schedule is falling. I get it; that's MY problem, not Apple's. But it's still a problem.

The point is that I'm gonna need a new phone soon. I'd like for that phone to be an iPhone--I love the product. But I can't see putting up with an already frustratingly slow piece of equipment for another six months in the HOPE of getting something more future-proof; especially when I have the option of purchasing something else now that is already more future-proof than the iPhone 4.

Has anyone explained WHY a June iPhone couldn't have 4G capability, when Android phones like the Atrix already do?

BTW, I'm not trying to be snarky; I just had my hopes up for a summer iPhone release (since Apple has released a new model every summer since the original). I'm just a little disappointed. Bad timing, I guess.

 

[steadysignal]

I'm with you on both items. I've been psyched for iPhone 5 to replace my 3GS, but for LTE I might be convinced to wait... (Then again my 4G friend says Boston has spotty coverage at the moment...)

As for the voice thing - I don't think I've ever used it nor really want to. To those that do use it - why? Is this a feature that car drivers use a lot?

they have got to get battery life under control or get LTE available in more places.

have been testing a VzW Tbolt and man its terrible in non-LTE areas on the battery.

i will not, however, give up on my iPhone. LTE or not, upgrading will happen. add me to the line of sheep.

 

[msb3079]

I could cause the antenna to lose all its bars by placing my one finger on the antenna... Thats ridiculous. And anyone who has one, on the At&T network and says "I've never dropped a call" is a fanboi in the worst way and flat out lying. All my iPhones, - and even non-iPhones - on AT&T's network drop calls period, all the time. Even if the antenna design was perfect on the iPhone 4, it would drop calls because of At&T's network, so yea... I don't believe that in a second.

Not to mention all the problems people were having with the screen, and the proximity sensors... and thats all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there is/was more. Also, I refused to buy another iPhone that didn't have more than 32 GB of space, since I'm currently maxing out the capacity on my current 32 GB iPhone. Thus, I decided not to upgrade to avoid dealing with all that. Really, the 4 was just problems and a few spec increases. The increased resolution of the display means nothing to me without a larger screen, and the 3GS was fast enough at the time. The one and only thing that I would have enjoyed is the bump in RAM.

Also, design-wise, I'd take the original iPhone over any of the others. It's too bad the AL causes havoc with radio signals. I would think someone who supposedly had all the iPhones would agree. And at least not think it looked like a "toy".

Good thing your not a designer, since when you designed crap and people called you out on it you'd be offended. You'd probably not be able to emotionally handle it.

And I 100% know what I'm talking about. Because I have an Anti-Apple opinion doesn't mean I'm ill-informed and I don't know what I'm talking about. I've worked on and dealt with enough electronics to have an informed opinion.

So what electronic has ZERO problems??
The more features that are packed into something, the more chances of issues. Doesn't make the iPhone 4 a "POS".

You've never owned one, so you wouldn't know.

 

[michaelsviews]

The iPhone 5 will not be released until 2012. The next iPhone will be called the iPhone 4G.

Until then, any self-respecting journalist should refer to it as "the fifth-generation iPhone."

And your rock solid PROOF that the iPhone 5 will not be released till 2012 is what?

 

[mcmlxix]

I can't possibly imagine anyone (who lives on the coasts, anyway) buying a smartphone in Sept/Oct 2011 that is not LTE capable.

The coasts? Because there are no urban areas in "flyover country"?

 

[StuddedLeather]

This is exactly what many said in response to the article yesterday. Delay three months to get support for next gen networks (and who knows, maybe unify the ATT and verizon hardware). Despite all the hand wringing, it's hard to imagine many happy iPhone users would defect over a three month delay.

Much better to get new features three months later than ship in summer without them and have to wait a whole extra year for them.

Exactly this.

I'll wait, hopefully our wait will be worth it though. If we could see LTE, a revamp of iOS 5 (specifically notifications) and a speed bump (dual processor) I will definitely hold onto my iPhone; for another 3 months with no issues!

 

[ArchaicRevival]

I never thought I'd say this but... I can't wait for fall!

 

[GregAndonian]

I think Apple's strategy has always been to delay implementing new technology until it functions seamlessly.

Apparently, Blu-ray doesn't function seamlessly yet.