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You live in a bubble. iOS has evolved slowly. Jailbreaking is the only way to achieve anything resembling feature parity with Android.

If apple gave a crap about feature parity with Android they would have done it themselves ages ago.

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Couldn't agree more. Call it "Expert Mode" or "Developer Mode" or something daunting, but for heavens sake, utilize and capitalize on it Apple, don't fight it and lose.

Th number of folks that jailbreak is a small fraction of the whole so I doubt Apple is losing this fight
 
Yeah, just the BIGGEST one of all. PEOPLE should decide what software goes on their devices, NOT Apple. There is ZERO and I mean ZERO excuse for this crap. We need new consumer laws in this country and around the world to address this sort of thing. Apple may make the hardware and operating system, but it's still your personal computing device and your right to privacy. The day you let companies or the government tell you what you can and cannot run on your computer is the day you lose what little is left of your freedoms. I don't need Apple telling me I can't run Firefox on my Mac because it competes with Safari and that IS what is eventually going to happen we just keep going down that road.

Probably more so it easier to support when there is a standard. And makes for a more stable experience typically. If JB was ok then whenever something got screwed up or deleted or whatever folks would call Apple and bi*ch and complain. Its just makes for a more stable platform when all apps and stuff have gone through certification and approval.

Pretty much see Mac and Windows over the years and which one "just worked".
 
People who do the stupid jailbreak is for stealing apps without paying anything, the excuse of the sb settings is just too old, accept it, jailbreakers (sounds really funny) like to obtain things without paying anything.

Or we just like to add capability that we need, without sacrificing features we like that are absent in Android? I use the terminal app on my iPhone a ton to ssh into servers to check on running programs on the go. I also use for unlocking FaceTime over 3G and free tethering (I'm not going to pay for data twice). Finally there are the UI mods that alone justify jailbreaking.

For what it's worth, as a software developer, I understand the frustrations developers get over piracy. I pay for apps on the cydia store all the time when it is trivial to pirate them. Jailbreaking != stealing software.
 
People who do the stupid jailbreak is for stealing apps without paying anything, the excuse of the sb settings is just too old, accept it, jailbreakers (sounds really funny) like to obtain things without paying anything.

Or not... I barely consider my iPhone/iPad useable without a jailbreak

Just some of tweaks I have installed:

Adblock (Block web ads and Free app ads)
Auxo (Improved app switcher)
Browser Changer (Change default browser to Chrome)
BytaFont (Change system font)
Chrome Download Manager (Allow file downloads from the web)
DietBar (Gives me a little more space on my iPhone4)
Gremlin (Import Songs without iTunes)
Icon Renamer (Change stupid app names)
iFile (Total filesystem browser)
MultiIconMover (Better icon management)
NCSettings (Quick settings access without going through the slow settings app)
Nitrous (Brings non-Apple apps web browsing speed up to par)
SwitcherCleaner (Additions improvements on top of Auxo)
Winterboard (ayecon) (So everything looks how I want it to look)
 
Isn't it ironic. I unlocked every Android device bootloader I've owned just to get the latest and greatest version of Android but iOS users will be avoiding the next version like the plague to keep their jailbreaks. That shows you the difference between Apple vs Google right there.
Samsung can try to re-lock my Note 2 bootloader till the cows come home but once your unlocked on Android there is no need to load up a factory ROM or accept OEM updates. You can just keep using custom or modified stock Samsung ROM's without seeing an update. I'm about to flash a Rom called "JediX". How can you not love a Rom with the word "Jedi" in it's name? My S-Pen will double as a lightsaber in about 5 minutes :D.
Apple's practices will actually make people want to come over to Android.
 
Well guess I better get ahold of an iPhone 5 to get the jailbreak locked in lol.

Oh and anyone with a jail broken device. When this hits, your device's value just went up.

I'm pretty sure this is a sign of no new iPad in April by the way. If there was, I'm sure they'd have a developer leaked iOS 7.0.
 
I am staying 6.1.2 for a while, I am enjoying the crap out of evasion to just let it go that easy. Sorry apple but evasi0n has made my cellphone way more productive and more fun to use. Still I pay for my apps and songs, its not like I am getting free apps...
 
People who do the stupid jailbreak is for stealing apps without paying anything, the excuse of the sb settings is just too old, accept it, jailbreakers (sounds really funny) like to obtain things without paying anything.

i pay for all my apps both appstore and cydia ones,jailbreak just gives you a bit more to do with your device that apple will not allowed...if you can integrate bitesms and igotya i would not jailbreak anymore,but until then i will continue to do so
 
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People who do the stupid jailbreak is for stealing apps without paying anything, the excuse of the sb settings is just too old, accept it, jailbreakers (sounds really funny) like to obtain things without paying anything.

Or not... I barely consider my iPhone/iPad useable without a jailbreak

Just some of tweaks I have installed:

Adblock (Block web ads and Free app ads)
You do realize that your first example helps to prove matgzx's point, right? When a developer releases a "free version" of an app with ads, the app isn't really "free", the developer is just looking to earn their revenue through the alternative method of ad revenue. So disabling ads in a "free" version of an app isn't really much different than obtaining a for-pay version of an app without paying for it.
 
In this day and age, with all of the substantial improvements that Apple has made to iOS over the years, I don't really think that there are many excuses left for jailbreakers.

You are obviously paid by Apple or you don't have any idea about what a smartphone is supposed to be.
Well perhaps both...
Would be so better if Apple focused on fixing the maps (or improving other things where Android is the same or better) instead to think to jailbreakers...
 
Oh and anyone with a jail broken device. When this hits, your device's value just went up.

Why does the value go up? You can't restore your iPhone to 6.1.2 after 6.1.3 comes out, and I sure as heck wouldn't sell my iPhone 5 without restoring it.

Unless there's a way to roll back firmwares on iOS 6?
 
So many updates, for ****s sake. Get your act together!

Ask your buddies to stop jailbreaking. It always relies on basically doing the same thing that viruses do; crash the app and take control. Write stuff in places it would normally not be permitted. Then force-quit the app or the OS. Bingo! It's changed. How can they not patch that? If the jailbreaking worked some other way, they could leave it alone. But if EvasiOn can do it, then anybody else can, too.

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Isn't it ironic. I unlocked every Android device bootloader I've owned just to get the latest and greatest version of Android but iOS users will be avoiding the next version like the plague to keep their jailbreaks. That shows you the difference between Apple vs Google right there.
Samsung can try to re-lock my Note 2 bootloader till the cows come home but once your unlocked on Android there is no need to load up a factory ROM or accept OEM updates. You can just keep using custom or modified stock Samsung ROM's without seeing an update. I'm about to flash a Rom called "JediX". How can you not love a Rom with the word "Jedi" in it's name? My S-Pen will double as a lightsaber in about 5 minutes :D.
Apple's practices will actually make people want to come over to Android.

Actually, no. iOS users will not, as a rule, be anything but glad about the new update, since it squashes vulnerabilities. Go ahead, enjoy your fun, but jailbreakers are about as high a percentage as those who make PC Macs. Interesting, but you're not THE market. I'd be hellishly annoyed if I had to worry about bootloaders and so on. Most people like the updates, because, unlike Android, we do get new versions of iOS regularly, and for free.
 
Why does the value go up? You can't restore your iPhone to 6.1.2 after 6.1.3 comes out, and I sure as heck wouldn't sell my iPhone 5 without restoring it.

Unless there's a way to roll back firmwares on iOS 6?

If you save your SHSH Blobs for 6.1, 6.1.1, or 6.1.2 then you can fool iTunes into thinking Apple has given you permission to restore to that version.
 
People who do the stupid jailbreak is for stealing apps without paying anything, the excuse of the sb settings is just too old, accept it, jailbreakers (sounds really funny) like to obtain things without paying anything.
Sounds like you know some dodgy peeps. At least 50% of my tweaks I have paid for and haven't downloaded a single apps per se. They are all small apps that enhance the function of the OS(tweaks). BiteSMS althought not essential is a really nice way to text, lets face it, Apple should focus on texting, apparently a few peeps do this. Auxo is just beautiful and offers a MUCH needed better way to switch apps. Why wouldn't Apple integrate something like this?? It is very well known that the IOS multitasking is one of the worst on smart phone OS's. Swipe up swipe down, for a function you desire, why on earth would Apple not integrate this?? Change WiFi & BT status without leaving your app, why would Apple not have initiated this?? I've got a pretty good feeling if Jony Ive had his way, he would not have bothered with leather look stitching around pages, torn paper etc, but would have opted to instead put resources into functions such as described above. There is a LOT of hope for IOS7 with JI at the helm. I have the utmost respect for JI and have a lot of faith in IOS7 delivering. If this is the case, I would not be surprised if we see record # of peeps move away from jailbreaking. No brainier really.
 
If you save your SHSH Blobs for 6.1, 6.1.1, or 6.1.2 then you can fool iTunes into thinking Apple has given you permission to restore to that version.

Can you still do that? I guess you can! I don't want to actually jailbreak at this time, but I'm on 6.1.2 and wouldn't mind saving the blobs (boy this brings back memories). Seems to me the only to do that from 6.1.2 is to Jailbreak which will save the blobs. Tiny Umbrella won't do it at 6.1.2, sadly.
 
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I jailbroke my iPad 3 once only to find out that there was nothing of interest for me personally. I am sure it's a big deal for some, but many people are perfectly content with the apps that are being offered on the appstore.

Just saying ;)

Some people are also content living in north korea.

I love my Macbook and this is my third iPad and I acknowledge that Apple have every right to battle, but it begins to work on my nerve that a lot of apps I cant use because of the fact that it is against of Apples stupid rules.

When Apple is a bit more open - on google level - in what they accept in the store, then there will be less need to jailbreak. Apple needs an attitude patch.

To be honest I'm really debating if my next mobile devices (with the exception of my macbook) will still be from Apple. This in combination with the lack of innovation, could steer me in the other direction.
 
In this day and age, with all of the substantial improvements that Apple has made to iOS over the years, I don't really think that there are many excuses left for jailbreakers.

Um...enabling personal hotspot.

That's the only reason I jailbroke my iPhone 5. I even hid Cydia so it doesn't look jailbroken.

I only tether during emergencies, which are rare...AT&T is to blame here.
 
So 12 years of contacts for hundreds of people is not considered private information in your world?

Nope. The odds are all the information you have in people in your phone is easily obtainable on this thing called "The Internet". It's not like you are storing their SSN.
 
Are you serious? there is so many things you can do with an iPhone jailbroken that you can't with iOS on its own.

Very true! However, you get so many bugs with it too and that's a fact.
I have 5 tweaks only on my phone. Battery drains super quick, keeps crashing, lags! (reasons i quit Android 2 years ago) Don't get me wrong, i love the tweaks but am using but seriously thinking of going back because of the reasons mentioned above.
 
Very true! However, you get so many bugs with it too and that's a fact.
I have 5 tweaks only on my phone. Battery drains super quick, keeps crashing, lags! (reasons i quit Android 2 years ago) Don't get me wrong, i love the tweaks but am using but seriously thinking of going back because of the reasons mentioned above.

Word ... I jailbroke my phone for the first time since the jailbreakme web-jailbreak a couple years back. I only use 3 tweaks (Auxo, Zephyr, AdBlock) and my Springboard crashes multiple times a day .. I'll give it a couple more days for updates, but I am very tempted to go back to a regular iOS.

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