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It's hardly something to worry about anyway.

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I don't disagree that everyone has different needs, but that list used to be a lot larger. That's all I'm saying.

Aside from a few others, TetherMe alone saves me $330 a year in data usage.
 
Hmm, Loose my JB so I can have I bit better maps for a country I never plan to visit? That’s a tough one. Not!
 
In this day and age, with all of the substantial improvements that Apple has made to iOS over the years, I don't really think that there are many excuses left for jailbreakers.

I suspect this is a troll statement. You obviously never jailbroke and if you did, didn't know what to do with it.

Either way, glad your happy being spoon-fed by mommy apple.
 
another update? man apple is pushing out these updates faster than tim cook changes his underwear daily
 
Word ... I jailbroke my phone for the first time since the jailbreakme web-jailbreak a couple years back. I only use 3 tweaks (Auxo, Zephyr, AdBlock) and my Springboard crashes multiple times a day .. I'll give it a couple more days for updates, but I am very tempted to go back to a regular iOS.

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Really? My jailbroken iPhone 5 (with 18 tweaks installed) runs smooth as butter, with zero crashes, no slowdowns and the battery life feels the same as it has for these past few months pre-jailbreak.

I am not lucky. People who complain about these problems just aren't doing it right. Restore your phone, and set it up as new. A lot of battery problems come with stacking updates. Stock iOS has problems, people. Doing a clean install almost always remedies them.

Setting up your phone as new also allows you to go through and disable any features that may be draining battery, or to re-add any accounts into your mail settings that may be draining battery.

Then you jailbreak. Then you don't install tweaks that are notorious for crashing, which I think Auxo and Winterboard are apart. I have Zephyr (plus others) and there are zero crashes, period.

Do it right, and your phone will be fine. Really sick of seeing people complain over solvable problems, especially when it's not always the jailbreak that's at fault. I'd bet Apple is too after they release every update, especially the "my battery is so poor now!" issues people seem to have.
 
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I haven't jailbroken since the early iOS 5 days. I just found that sometimes things like battery life would take a hit, or the phone would reboot unexpectedly. It could have just been a placebo effect though.

FaceTime over cellular was the last thing that I cared about, and while I hate my provider, at least I have tethering included in my plan and they don't restrict FaceTime at all.

I think the biggest motivator for me these days NOT to jailbreak is the fact that I don't have to plug my phone in to my computer to update anymore. Obviously jailbreakers aren't updating their phones as often as non-jailbreakers, which isn't that often anyway, but it's such a time consuming process that I just can't be bothered with, all for the sake of having a fifth icon in my dock.

To each his own though.

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I am not lucky. People who complain about these problems just aren't doing it right. Restore your phone, and set it up as new. A lot of battery problems come with stacking updates. Stock iOS has problems, people. Doing a clean install almost always remedies them.

I've had an iPhone since 2007 and have NEVER set up a new phone since the day I bought the original.

I believe this whole "clean" install thing to be a bunch of hot air. Any time I see someone spew out this non-sense I think of the people that think their computer is too slow because they have too many mp3s on their hard drive.
 
I've had an iPhone since 2007 and have NEVER set up a new phone since the day I bought the original.

I believe this whole "clean" install thing to be a bunch of hot air. Any time I see someone spew out this non-sense I think of the people that think their computer is too slow because they have too many mp3s on their hard drive.

Working in computer repair I hear that mp3 argument all the time however I am not convinced that iOS handles everything perfectly for you in the background when you restore from a backup. I believe that there is room for error and because Apple obscures a lot of complexity from you (that being the main appeal of their devices after all) this error may very well be hidden beneath pretty settings interfaces that tell you everything's OK. If you don't agree with that then that's fine. I don't know you, your phone/settings, or your usage, so your scenario may be perfect for you.

When you go and layer 3rd party tweaks onto your phone yes problems can happen. Jailbreaking is a patient balancing act of finding the right tweaks that play nicely together and you will encounter hiccups along the way. I just think that your mileage will be much better if you layer all that secondary stuff onto a flawless install of iOS.
 
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Or not... I barely consider my iPhone/iPad useable without a jailbreak

Just some of tweaks I have installed:

Adblock (Block web ads and Free app ads)
Auxo (Improved app switcher)
Browser Changer (Change default browser to Chrome)
BytaFont (Change system font)
Chrome Download Manager (Allow file downloads from the web)
DietBar (Gives me a little more space on my iPhone4)
Gremlin (Import Songs without iTunes)
Icon Renamer (Change stupid app names)
iFile (Total filesystem browser)
MultiIconMover (Better icon management)
NCSettings (Quick settings access without going through the slow settings app)
Nitrous (Brings non-Apple apps web browsing speed up to par)
SwitcherCleaner (Additions improvements on top of Auxo)
Winterboard (ayecon) (So everything looks how I want it to look)

But is it really worth it?

Apple has told the US Copyright Office that jailbroken iPhones could lead to crashed cell phone towers and drug dealers freely making anonymous phone calls.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/29/apple_jailbreaking_patent_office_response/


By tinkering with this code, “a local or international hacker could potentially initiate commands (such as a denial of service attack) that could crash the tower software, rendering the tower entirely inoperable to process calls or transmit data,” Apple wrote the government. “Taking control of the BBP software would be much the equivalent of getting inside the firewall of a corporate computer — to potentially catastrophic result.

“The technological protection measures were designed into the iPhone precisely to prevent these kinds of pernicious activities, and if granted, the jailbreaking exemption would open the door to them,” Apple added.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/jailbreak/
 
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i'm waiting for iOS 7 to have a NCSetting like tweak and i probably will never jailbreak again. Although i dont have my iPhone jailbroken anyways since i'm testing iOS 6.1.3 beta 2.

please iOS 7.

i think jailbreaking has become more of a customization than a necessity nowadays.
 
Umm... wrong.

Seeing how trustworthy and legitimate the evad3rs have been, I would feel more comfortable with having a team like those guys releasing a jailbreak, and reporting their findings to the Vendor so they can be fixed. How do you think all bug fixes are found?

Or would you prefer someone to exploit said bug maliciously, and get control of other people's phones?

The more people that know about it, the easier a patch for it can be found, the quicker you get a more stable and robust OS. Trying to hide it away makes it exploitable by those who have malicious intent.

BL.

umm... wrong.

So naive aren't you? You may think this "vendor" is looking out for your interest..but really they are not.
 
Seems like apple doesnt really care about jbing and they just post patches to stop it to pretend like they do care.


Yeah, but David Wang of the evad3rs team says that exploits used by the evad3rs to make the jail real tool are being patched by Apple in the next 6.1.3 update.

From the article...
"Wang tells me that he's analyzed the 6.1.3 beta 2 update and found that it patches at least one of the five bugs the jailbreak exploits, namely a flaw in the operating system's time zone settings. The beta update likely signals the end of using evasi0n to hack new or updated devices after the update is released to users, says Wang, who says he's still testing the patch to see which other vulnerabilities exploited by the jailbreak might no longer exist in the new operating system."
 
It's great that Apple listen's us, the normal user's and remove's any security theats. As the iOS offers everything I need, I see no reason Apple to turn every rock when fighting against security flaws. Apple is doing it right.

I know some of you people want to jailbreak your device's, but that should't be normal user's problem. If you dont like secure and simple iOS, you can allways go to Android.

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It's great that Apple listen's us, the normal user's and remove's any security theats. As the iOS offers everything I need, I see no reason Apple not to turn every rock when fighting against security flaws. Apple is doing it right.

I know some of you people want to jailbreak your device's, but that should't be normal user's problem. If you dont like secure and simple iOS, you can allways go to Android.

Sorry about my english
 
It will go like this:

- Apple releases 6.1.3 that kills the l337 h4x0r 3v4z10n jailbreak
- Jailbreakers whine briefly, then strenuously avoid the update
- Apple will cherry pick good jailbreak app concepts (if there are any left)
- Apple will release iOS 7.0 with those concepts
- People who JB-ed for those concepts won't need to jailbreak any more
- People who JB-ed to steal apps, videos, music, etc. will keep on doing it

Meanwhile, some other group of l337 h4x0rz will exploit some other jailbreak technique that Apple can, yet again, quickly slam shut. Rinse, repeat. And some day there just won't be another jailbreak technique. And we'll be done.



About stealing....

Surely, many people are tempted to jailbreak to steal apps and music. And there are others who jailbreak just to improve the functionality of their phones. I admit to being tempted to wanting to steal a few apps, but realizing that developers work hard for meager pay has often stopped me from doing that.

I suspect that there aren't that many people who jailbreak for stealing apps and music. Anyway, it would be difficult for the average Joe who just jailbroke his phone to even figure out how to steal apps.
 
There are always going to be jail-breaks until :apple: moves to a protected memory model OS platform.
They patch a hole. Another one will always be found.
 
About stealing....

Surely, many people are tempted to jailbreak to steal apps and music. And there are others who jailbreak just to improve the functionality of their phones. I admit to being tempted to wanting to steal a few apps, but realizing that developers work hard for meager pay has often stopped me from doing that.

I suspect that there aren't that many people who jailbreak for stealing apps and music. Anyway, it would be difficult for the average Joe who just jailbroke his phone to even figure out how to steal apps.

You're probably right about not many people wanting to steal apps / music etc.
And no, it's probably not as simple as I thought. In the long run, especially
for 99 cent songs and apps, "easy" beats "free."

Easy or not, common or not, stealing or not, jailbreaking probably isn't doing much harm.
The minority who steal probably wouldn't pay for anything anyway.
 
Word ... I jailbroke my phone for the first time since the jailbreakme web-jailbreak a couple years back. I only use 3 tweaks (Auxo, Zephyr, AdBlock) and my Springboard crashes multiple times a day .. I'll give it a couple more days for updates, but I am very tempted to go back to a regular iOS.

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I believe this is a bug with Auxo, i get it too. Theres apparently been an update submitted which may fix it.
 
i'm waiting for iOS 7 to have a NCSetting like tweak and i probably will never jailbreak again. Although i dont have my iPhone jailbroken anyways since i'm testing iOS 6.1.3 beta 2.

please iOS 7.

i think jailbreaking has become more of a customization than a necessity nowadays.

Yeah... iOS is mature enough that there aren't a ton of features that you need to JB for - quick toggles, true multitasking, and in-app SMS are the big ones left.

Really, this reminds me of the old OS X theming days. Back when I started Xthemes in... 2004/2005, there were a lot of people who hacked OS X to theme it/swap icons/etcetera. Nowadays the OS X customization market has all but dried up. It'll happen to iOS, in due time. But it won't until iOS hits 'good enough' status for most people and/or the people who run the exploit groups/Cydia lose interest.
 
Yeah... iOS is mature enough that there aren't a ton of features that you need to JB for - quick toggles, true multitasking, and in-app SMS are the big ones left.

Really, this reminds me of the old OS X theming days. Back when I started Xthemes in... 2004/2005, there were a lot of people who hacked OS X to theme it/swap icons/etcetera. Nowadays the OS X customization market has all but dried up. It'll happen to iOS, in due time. But it won't until iOS hits 'good enough' status for most people and/or the people who run the exploit groups/Cydia lose interest.

I still want to side load applications.
 
Oh and anyone with a jail broken device. When this hits, your device's value just went up.

Really?

Legit question here:

I thought you could do one of a couple of things if you're currently not jailbroken:
1. don't accept the 6.1.3 update. I'm being propmted right now to update to 6.1.2. I haven't done it yet.

2. Restore from a backup from before 6.1.3.

So let's say right now on 6.1.1 I get prompted for 6.1.3 tomorrow (whenever) and install it. If I want to JB can't I just go back to a backup on my computer from 3 weeks ago and still JB?

Sorry, I'm a n00b
 
umm... wrong.

So naive aren't you? You may think this "vendor" is looking out for your interest..but really they are not.

The Vendor in this case, is APPLE. They've responded by patching the exploit, so no-one else can maliciously use it.

You obviously do not know how bugs are fixed in relation to security vulnerabilities. For example, IOS 6.1's announcement coming via the Bugtraq mailing list, Secunia advisories, CVEs, etc.

Not to toot my own horn, but being a sysadmin and ISO, I know that a hell of a lot more and better than you realize. Yet you call me naive.

BL.
 
About stealing....

Surely, many people are tempted to jailbreak to steal apps and music. And there are others who jailbreak just to improve the functionality of their phones. I admit to being tempted to wanting to steal a few apps, but realizing that developers work hard for meager pay has often stopped me from doing that.

Ironically, I jailbroke my phone to purchase iFile and download VLC. :apple: Cyndia is a store still and they do have some decent stuff on there, though I do admit that some of those apps are probably more for piracy than actually well thought out applications.
 
Tweaks my iPhone needs or it will be useless for me:

1) Action menu
2) Auxo
3) IntelliScreenX
4) Zephyr

Nothing more..

I don't need pirate games or pirate movies or free whatever or useless hacks!

I need tweaks that let my phone be useful

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Really?

Legit question here:

I thought you could do one of a couple of things if you're currently not jailbroken:
1. don't accept the 6.1.3 update. I'm being propmted right now to update to 6.1.2. I haven't done it yet.

2. Restore from a backup from before 6.1.3.

So let's say right now on 6.1.1 I get prompted for 6.1.3 tomorrow (whenever) and install it. If I want to JB can't I just go back to a backup on my computer from 3 weeks ago and still JB?

Sorry, I'm a n00b

If you update to the latest you are screwed. DONT UPDATE
 
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