iOS 6 to Bring Systemwide Facebook Integration

[damir00]

Care to explain why you disagree? Why shouldn't there be a right?

It is not reasonable to expect a "right" to privacy in public places, and there is no place more public than the internet.

If you want the expectation of privacy, you need to stay in private places.

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So you identified the car, not the driver...

The owner of the car knows who is driving it. Unless you're now talking about stealing cars, in which case "privacy" is likely the least of your concerns.

That car is also passing cell towers. In addition to the vehicle being monitored, the phone in the car is also being identified and monitored continuously.

That will cover 99.99999999% of cases where it matters.

I can live with that level of completeness.

 

[ixodes]

Yes lets all bow down to our god, Mark. That guy has the whole world in his pocket. Hes a dangerous dictator.

Lets give him even more power.

So true, Zuck is the big winner here. It's a masterful play on his part. Especially given the fact his "clan" of users are cult like, just like Apples, no matter how many prefer to live in denial.

All one has to do is look at the massive numbers of followers in each camp, as well as those who are in both camps. Facebook is a perfect fit. Cook's already lavishing praise on the man who owns a controlling interest in Facebook, one with a demeanor not too much unlike someone else that use to control Apple.

I'm not a Facebook user, and I'm not being critical of either companies privacy policies, vs how they truly act behind our backs.

After all, the horse named privacy died long ago. Those who feel secure are only fooling themselves. Far too many give it up without a second thought and rail against anyone with a modicum of common sense.

This is more about principal & Apple caving in. Opening the Castle Doors & rolling out the Red Carpet for the Man who'll they will seat at the head of the table.

You've got to give credit to Zuck. No man before him could gain access to Apples treasures. He's won big on this deal. A fact many will deny till some time passes, and the results become so apparent there will be no way to deny it.

Sure fooled me, a Facebook Phone by Apple. Wonders never cease.

 

[mgsarch]

Yuck.

 

[chanyitian]

Even if Facebook is integrated into iOS, i hope that Apple will help protect our personal information.

 

[3282868]

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I love this so much

 

[Tsuki415]

Oh boy!

Does this mean the Facebook app won't suck anymore!?!?! =D

 

[Mr. Gates]

Disagree.

There is no right to anonymity on the internet, nor should there be.

Just as there is no right to anonymity while driving a car down the highway.

Nor should we track your favorite websites and trick you into a false sense of security while implanting a key-logger into your daily routine.

Hmmm , care about privacy ??? No ?? Ok , fair game

 

[iEvolution]

There is absolutely no reason why Facebook needs to be wrapped in the core of iOS, there is a app for it and a website there is nothing good could come out of this unless you're too lazy to run the app or go to the website to upload/interact with facebook.

The ones that seem fine with this either:
a) don't care about their right to privacy
b) don't know how wishy-washy facebook has been with their terms of service/privacy policies

 

[ellaimac]

Nor should we track your favorite websites and trick you into a false sense of security while implanting a key-logger into your daily routine.

Hmmm , care about privacy ??? No ?? Ok , fair game

Bill, when will windows 8 come out?

 

[SeaFox]

Does this mean the Facebook app won't suck anymore!?!?! =D

Maybe. But it will definitely have more iCandy.

(see what I did there)

 

[JGowan]

Apple would probably get in trouble if it didn't give FB the same leverage as Twitter. There are so many sites now that allow you to sign with your FB or Twitter accounts that Apple has to keep the playing field equal.

 

[DanHolderman]

I hope Apple allows users to "opt out" of any of the FB features. Personally, I have absolutely NO interest in FB on my computer and I would be pissed if I was forced to look at some lame FB icon every time I'm on my computer.

It seems very "un-apple" to allow another company to have so much involvement in apple's OS. I can't imagine Steve would have liked this.

 

[DanHolderman]

You know what? There are real problems in the world. Problems like a rape epidemic in South Africa

Don't care, I'm not in South Africa. Let the South Africans deal with this.

sexual slavery in Asia.

Again, don't care I'm not in Asia either. Let the Asians fix their sex slave problem.

more slaves today then ever before.

Are you keeping count? How do you know? I kind of doubt the factual basis of this statement as you have no reference. But again, since there are no slaves in my part of the world.....I don't care.

Why don't you concern yourself with that instead of being duped into a reality that revolves around yourself?

Because all of these things that you have mentioned are not problems in my part of the world. I have absolutely no interest in trying to solve all of the world's problems or get into another country's business. I have spent far too many years of my life getting involved in other country's business and have nothing to show for it except scars, bad memories and good friends that will never get to see their children grow up.

apply your passion to something that really is a problem and these other things won't bother you so much.

Why don't you stop being a busy body and not worry about other people's business! If we want to obsess over FB integration on our computers then let us obsess about it, it's our right.

I have an even better idea: how about YOU go over to Asia and South Africa and solve all of the sex slavery and rape problems.

 

[iMat77]

A thought or two

I don't want it. So, if it happens, I hope there's an option for turning it on. I understand Apple is desperate to enter the social network realm. But in my opinion they don't have to. Stick to what you do best. And let the others create the apps to have social network integration. Honestly I don't understand what the benefit of such an integration would be for a user. I can already upload the pictures I took to FB, I already can share links, videos and stuff.

Why on earth should I give Facebook the ability to go through my contacts, mess iMessage with Facebook chat (sorry... they are going to call it "merge", in marketings speech), or have my iCloud and Facebook stream become one?

Look, I use Facebook (with a grain or two of salt) but I don't want everything to become one. And this whole social networks thing is going to last less than what we think. Facebook was already surpassed in some domains (Instagram) and ran scared, 1 BILLION DOLLARS scared....
Pinterest is emerging, and Google+ is trying hard (though Google already has a wealth of information about pretty much everybody who uses the internet).

I find it ironic that Schiller quit Instagram because it jumped the shark. And then Facebook acquired it, and Instagram is going to re-enter his iPhone in iOS 6 because it is part of the new integration with Facebook.

That should teach Schiller a thing or two about myopic choices. Partner with Facebook, but don't let them in on iOS!! Don't let them be part of it.

The last time it happened it was Google. And Android changed completely from "before" to "after" the partnership.
Facebook is already rumored to be developing a phone. Does Apple want another clone? Facebook will learn whatever they can and then come out with a phone of their own. Voilà, Apple will have to spend useless billion enriching lawyers when the fault is theirs and theirs entirely for letting Facebook in on all their strategies.

 

[bmacir]

I'm sorry I have to say this but apple is going downhill since SJ left us.

I am losing passion towards apple products and have been a fan since I was 8 yrs old

 

[Nimrad]

Wouldn't it be better if iOS supported app-based plugins instead? It would make much more sense to me to download the Facebook app and then get the appropriate system-wide features, even when I am not using the app directly. I don't like this approach for two reasons. First, if I don't use Facebook, I will be stuck with unnecessary Facebook integration. Secondly, why is Apple making the choice for us? It's not that Facebook is the only social network.

Please, for the world, don't let Facebook make this plugin. It has to be Apple to be any good. Take a look at the extremely slow Facebook app for iOS.

Yes, please, give me Facebook login integrated.

I'm sorry I have to say this but apple is going downhill since SJ left us.

I am losing passion towards apple products and have been a fan since I was 8 yrs old

Most of what has happened yet, Steve Jobs were probably very much involved in. That means that Apple without Steve Jobs is still pretty much the same at the moment and you are just making up some feelings in your mind about it when there comes something you don't love.

 

[burtba]

MAN!!! There is SOME paranoia going on here. I don't always get the big picture, but what is SO SO shameful about integrating FB as opposed to Twitter?? Twitter happened, yes with some opposition but it certainly didn't ruin the OS, aren't we talking about a similar integration? or are peeps creating in their own minds that this integration will be VASTLY different??

 

[iMat77]

MAN!!! There is SOME paranoia going on here. I don't always get the big picture, but what is SO SO shameful about integrating FB as opposed to Twitter?? Twitter happened, yes with some opposition but it certainly didn't ruin the OS, aren't we talking about a similar integration? or are peeps creating in their own minds that this integration will be VASTLY different??

Twitter is by far not as pervasive as Facebook with regards to your info. Twitter doesn't care what your phone number is, doesn't tag you in pictures, doesn't profile you as much as Facebook does, doesn't persistently ask for your phone number, your contact names, your interests, your soul.... And isn't full of "farmville games". It is focused on one thing, twitting, and that's it. Facebook has become a Kraken... And it is exactly a different philosophy than Apple has (and hope still keeps).

Apple should devote resources to get their act together in software, not in integrating third parties to iOS. You are right. First there was twitter, now Facebook. The rest? They are setting dangerous precedents (the very first ones being Google (maps and youtube) and then Yahoo (stocks and weather)). See what happened with google. That is what I fear will happen with Facebook.

Apple has to focus on:
- pro software (Aperture (don't get me started on the potential of the software and the mess it is in reality (resource hog so much that flash is almost smooth, crashes all the time, etc etc), and where is Aperture for iOS (I know... it is going the way of the dodo... But i like it a lot), Final Cut (what a mess it was, and still is), Logic, Pages (hasn't seen an update in ages), Numbers, Keyonte...).
- finish iCloud!! (iWork for OSX is integrated like a japanese in Finland)
- mobileme galleries in iCloud. Does Apple really want to give up on social and outsource all the information to third parties (Flickr, which is a mess in its own right, Facebook and the like?)


Why not ask Facebook to do some integration? Like a proper plugin for Aperture, or, for instance, the possibility to integrate MobileMe (now defunct, but let's call them "iCloud") galleries in Facebook? Why always the reverse???

Apple, focus on your own software. And let the adolescent company become an adult. (talking business-wise, NOT personally). Facebook is going nowhere else! Google will never partner with them, Microsoft is (at the moment) irrelevant, so Facebook is as desperate to be more integrated as Apple is to be more "social" (I don't see an inerent value in that, but it's just me).

Advice to Apple: Let Facebook try to make their own phone. It will fail miserably, then you'll be able to talk integration. Something I personally don't want.

 

[Tanguyvd]

Facebook is a joke and anyone who uses it probably has no social life, hence them being on it. Why do they feel like they have to integrate this crap!!!???

this comment is realy one mind blowing showing off inteligence of its writer... respect!

 

[usptact]

Then I don't need this iOS 6 version.

 

[kdarling]

There are meaningful use cases. Just because you don't have one doesn't mean others shouldn't either.

Indeed.

I subscribe to Facebook because of my kids and grandkids. It's just another way to keep up with their daily interests and activities.

Even their "checking in" someplace can be handy when trying to track them down. So if they want to let us know where they are all the time, that's fine with me. Personally, I'm more private

It seems very "un-apple" to allow another company to have so much involvement in apple's OS. I can't imagine Steve would have liked this.

It's the good and bad that comes with being an "internet device".

Apple's iPhone would've been much less of a hit without all the Google involvement. Search, Maps, and YouTube were major apps at its sales launch.

 

[anti-microsoft]

I don't think the Facebook integration in iOS 6 is going to much different to the Twitter integration in iOS 5. Basically, what "Facebook integration" means is having "share sheets" embedded in the iOS that publish straight to Facebook, just like the Twitter ones share straight to Twitter. All it is is native sharing to Facebook without having to copy and paste or use the Facebook app.

I don't know why everyone is getting the impression that "Facebook integration" means Facebook is going to collect information throughout the whole OS. Apple doesn't want that. As I said, what's going to be integrated are just "share sheets". Facebook can't "get in", information can only "get out" and only if you choose to publish it intentionally.

Again, Facebook integration in iOS 6 is going to be exactly the same as Twitter integration in iOS 5, except this time, instead of sharing on a website called "Twitter" you'll be sharing on a website called "Facebook".

End of story.

 

[Flitzy]

It's the good and bad that comes with being an "internet device".

Apple's iPhone would've been much less of a hit without all the Google involvement. Search, Maps, and YouTube were major apps at its sales launch.

There's a difference between allowing other companies to write apps for your device and allowing a competitor.

 

[Stella]

allow another company to have so much involvement in apple's OS. I can't imagine Steve would have liked this.

Apple aren't allowing Facebook involvement into iOS. Apple are merely implementing an interface ( aka API ) provided by Facebook in order to allow iOS to interact with Facebook. Facebook aren't saying 'we must have an F icon visible on every screen of the iPhone, for example.

Apple will not be forcing people to sign up to Facebook. You will not be forced to use Facebook if you don't wish so. Neither will your iDevice be uploading data to Facebook secretly, especially when NOT logged in. If you are NOT logged in, your iDevice will NOT be communicating with Facebook in any way.

Having Facebook integration will NOT mean having a boat load of Facebook required applications on your phone!

When iOS 6 is released, all these complaints will turn into "Yeeeea, iOS6 - the best smartphone OS out there, ever. Apple are so innovative, Google are so evil , and Samsung are copying Apple by releasing their own TVs"!

 

[Wicked1]

No thanks. My personal information stays close to me. There is no need to put it all over the web.

Amen to this, agree 100%, I do not like integrated apps, that is why I stay away from Android, however the way Apple does it is a little better, but still do not like this.