iOS 7.1 - Battery Drain (merged)

[sunking101]

Again ... With your iPhone 5.
And again I'm asking: how is your battery's health ? Did you checked it with iBackupBot as I suggested ?

I will check it later and report back.

 

[Max(IT)]

Well if hardly using your phone and so long as it makes it through the day is sufficient for you, who am I to argue. I use my phone a HELL of a lot and to lose 2-3 hours of runtime each day is a big deal for me. I have an iPhone 5, which is especially affected by iOS7. I mean, it runs the o/s fine but the battery life is abysmal when compared to how much I got with iOS6.
The i5 battery drain is VERY well documented. Some claim not to experience it but every single one of my friends has the problem and ARS Technica proved the problem to exist months ago with benchtests. It is absolutely a problem for a hell of a lot of iPhone 5 users. Two devices got a raw deal with iOS7, the iPhone4 (understandably) struggles for speed and the iPhone5 (unforgivably) struggles with battery life. These are facts and yet Apple chooses to ignore them.

Yes, iPhone 5 has a battery impact with iOS 7, but I still reached 6-7 hrs of usage. Less than iOS 6 but still a good result.
Again: how is your battery's health ?

It's a waste of time if you keep ranting about iOS 7 and perhaps your battery is at 70% of initial maximum capacity ....

 

[sunking101]

Yes, iPhone 5 has a battery impact with iOS 7, but I still reached 6-7 hrs of usage. Less than iOS 6 but still a good result.
Again: how is your battery's health ?

It's a waste of time if you keep ranting about iOS 7 and perhaps your battery is at 70% of initial maximum capacity ....

I'll check the battery tonight and report back.

 

[Max(IT)]

My i5 is 7 months old and, coincidentally, gave me 2-3 hours more runtime prior to iOS7 being installed. As soon as iOS7 went onto my phone, decent battery life went out the window. I'm a seasoned iPhone user and always do DFU installs via iTunes, never OTA. I also have every single battery draining setting toggled off. Nobody could get any more juice out of my i5 than I already do.
It is VERY well documented that iOS7 doesn't agree with the i5 when it comes to battery life.

Oh and I never said that you didn't use your phone but if you go to bed with it at 60%, then you haven't used it all that much. I fully charge mine twice a day, every day.
What do I expect Apple to do about it? Well, as my 7 month old handset is not returning anything like the battery life specs it is supposed to, and as they seemingly won't be doing anything about it now in regard to an iOS7 update (I've waited patiently for six months), the only decent thing would be to give me a brand new 5S, or refund my money. They will do neither of course.

3 hrs difference is just too much, this is the reason I strongly suspect your battery is defective ....

I've lost 1 hrs , 1 hrs and half in the passage from iOS 6 to 7. But 3 hrs is just too much ...
The good news is that if your iPhone 5 is 7 months old, and your battery is defective, they are going to give you a new battery.

 

[sunking101]

3 hrs difference is just too much, this is the reason I strongly suspect your battery is defective ....

I've lost 1 hrs , 1 hrs and half in the passage from iOS 6 to 7. But 3 hrs is just too much ...
The good news is that if your iPhone 5 is 7 months old, and your battery is defective, they are going to give you a new battery.

That would be good news indeed

 

[Max(IT)]

Battery life has defenitely got worse on my 5s, although by a minimal amount. I can surely notice the difference without having to measure anything.

Let's hope 7.2, which is going to come put within a minimum of 4 months, will revert the battery life usage back to 7.0.6.

I don't think we are going to see any 7.2 ....
In my opinion the next major release will be iOS 8.

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That would be good news indeed

If your battery goes below 80% of maximum capacity before 500 cycles, they are going to replace it.

 

[sunking101]

I don't think we are going to see any 7.2 ....
In my opinion the next major release will be iOS 8.

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If your battery goes below 80% of maximum capacity before 500 cycles, they are going to replace it.

So I download something called iBackupbot onto my computer and it's straightforward?

 

[Max(IT)]

I took it in to Apple a few months ago and they told me to wait for 7.1, which would fix the problem. They didn't even check my battery, obviously (in my mind) knowing there was a software issue. This time I won't be fobbed off with impending update fixes, that's for sure.

The didn't check your battery ??? Oh man, what a lazy Apple Store did you find ....
Next time firmly request them to have your iPhone checked, because is your right.

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So I download something called iBackupbot onto my computer and it's straightforward?

Yes, it's free.
In the information tab you'll find the cycles number and the actual maximum capacity (it's better to check it when fully charged). It's not a 100% accurate value but it will give you an indication of your battery's life.
If you find a value below 1100-1000 mAh then you could have a problem.

 

[sunking101]

The didn't check your battery ??? Oh man, what a lazy Apple Store did you find ....
Next time firmly request them to have your iPhone checked, because is your right.

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Yes, it's free.
In the information tab you'll find the cycles number and the actual maximum capacity (it's better to check it when fully charged). It's not a 100% accurate value but it will give you an indication of your battery's life.
If you find a value below 1100-1000 mAh then you could have a problem.

OK, thanks for your help. I'll charge the phone up later, do the check and report back.

 

[Max(IT)]

OK, thanks for your help. I'll charge the phone up later, do the check and report back.

I went through the same investigation in October with my former iPhone 5, so I can understand your feeling

 

[Max(IT)]

i thought there were no issues with battery life at first, but over the course of the past 24 hours my battery went from ~65% to dead with almost no use of my 5S.

typically i drop 5% overnight once below 100% charge, but yesterday i used the phone for 5 minutes and it dropped 15% in that time, and today i wake up and its dead after being at ~45% before i went to sleep.

now that its dead though the battery will be recalibrated so perhaps this issue will go away.

Mmmh .... I don't think the battery need a calibration. I think there's a process active on your iPhone that is draining the battery fast.

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Might be worth a trip to the Apple Store. Sounds like your device is still covered by warranty.

Yep.
I already suggested that on another thread. Check your battery with a free tool like iBackupBot and, if the value is not so good, have it checked by an Apple store since it's still covered by warranty.

 

[Bamff]

I would like to know how the battery usage seems to you guys.. Thanks in advance for any replies

 

[MrGuder]

I bet what happen to me is most likely what is happening to a lot of iPhone 5 users. My phone was over 1 year old since I bought new, booked genius appt, battery was checked and it needed to be replaced.

Since I have a fresh battery, I did a restore, downloaded 7.1 and my battery is excellent. I am blown away at the results I am getting with 7.1. Here are my stats from the past 2 days with using the phone the same as I always do. This is all LTE usage.

 

[WillFisher]

To be fair the last week or so of having 7.1 I've had a slight increase in battery life, nothing drastic, but would notice a little bit longer, so I praised it.
Then today I got some super massive amount of draining, and its been awful all day. Going to let it run down and fully recharge, because this makes no sense.
Considering I only actually used it for around 10 minutes before my lecture, this was the result after not touching it for nearly 2 hours.

But yeah, TL;DR I've had a weird battery sucking amount today, but until then its been fine.

EDIT: iPhone 5 in the UK on 3G.

 

[Max(IT)]

To be fair the last week or so of having 7.1 I've had a slight increase in battery life, nothing drastic, but would notice a little bit longer, so I praised it.
Then today I got some super massive amount of draining, and its been awful all day. Going to let it run down and fully recharge, because this makes no sense.
Considering I only actually used it for around 10 minutes before my lecture, this was the result after not touching it for nearly 2 hours.

But yeah, TL;DR I've had a weird battery sucking amount today, but until then its been fine.

EDIT: iPhone 5 in the UK on 3G.

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in the picture you have location service active (look at the black arrow). Maybe an active app in background ?

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I would like to know how the battery usage seems to you guys.. Thanks in advance for any replies

Excellent.

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I bet what happen to me is most likely what is happening to a lot of iPhone 5 users. My phone was over 1 year old since I bought new, booked genius appt, battery was checked and it needed to be replaced.

Since I have a fresh battery, I did a restore, downloaded 7.1 and my battery is excellent. I am blown away at the results I am getting with 7.1. Here are my stats from the past 2 days with using the phone the same as I always do. This is all LTE usage.

Your battery life now is very very good indeed.
As I suspect, most of the problems for iPhone 5's user isn't really iOS 7 but the battery aging .... Maybe iPhone 5's battery is not very durable ....

 

[WillFisher]

in the picture you have location service active (look at the black arrow). Maybe an active app in background ?

Yeah its what I was thinking, but even so it seems A LOT faster than normal.

I'm thinking it was just a blip day, I've let it recharge now and its completely fine. Who knows!

 

[eclipse01]

Including every x.x.x update, I cannot recall one single Apple update where people haven't immediately come rushing to these forums to claim the update "drains the battery faster" after updating.

I've owned every iPhone since 3GS and downloaded every update available to me and have never ever noticed a significant increase and decrease, all have always pretty much got me through the day and charge every night, with the exception of draining far too quickly when travelling.

To me, the battery is the next big change the mobile world needs to see. They can get as thin, light, hi res as they want but someone needs to really "revolutionise" the battery.

But let's not pretend every single time there's a tiny little update that the battery suddenly gets worse otherwise we'd be down to about an hour between each charge with how often people claim it's happened

This !!!!!!

Every time is the same whining about "battery drain" and people on the forum suggesting the most exotic solutions to solve the problem.
For someone is just a corrupted installation, or a corrupted restore of previously installed apps.
For most is just their imagination ....


So far I'm very happy about iOS 7.1 : it is what iOS 7 should have been several months ago.

Agree'd so sick of battery threads. Go buy a battery juicepack or go back to a feature phone!

 

[DramaLLama]

Does anyone know if Facebook app stays active in the background past 10 minutes for whatever reason? I feel like if I don't close it out (swipe up from the multi-task window) it just eats my battery

 

[Max(IT)]

Does anyone know if Facebook app stays active in the background past 10 minutes for whatever reason? I feel like if I don't close it out (swipe up from the multi-task window) it just eats my battery

Did you enable background app refresh of it ?

 

[DramaLLama]

Did you enable background app refresh of it ?

Yes actually but I though after 10 minutes, iOS will suspend the app and it can't do anything else unless I re-open it. Is something causing it to run past that 10 minutes? (Is this even possible)

 

[Max(IT)]

Yes actually but I though after 10 minutes, iOS will suspend the app and it can't do anything else unless I re-open it. Is something causing it to run past that 10 minutes? (Is this even possible)

I don't use Facebook app on my iPhone, but with background app refresh enabled yes, it could work outside that 10 minutes window.

 

[sunking101]

Well, I have checked my battery with iBackupbot and the results are:

Cycle count: 377
Design capacity: 1430
FullChargeCapacity: 1275
Status: success

So I guess this shows that my battery isn't faulty?
377 cycles sounds like a lot in 7 months!
Mind you, with my dreadful battery life that explains the number of charges :-(

 

[sunking101]

A further update...
After discovering that my battery is indeed ok, I have done a fresh installation of iOS7.1 and set it up as a new phone. I haven't downloaded any apps, set up any email accounts, or indeed loaded anything whatsoever onto the phone. All I have done is adjusted the settings to how I usually have them for battery saving purposes, and I have been browsing the internet for the last 2 hours to see what kind of battery life a phone with no apps or data loaded onto it will get. This for me is to rule out once and for all the 'conflicting' or 'compromised' apps possibility behind my battery drain. As no email accounts are loaded up either, no photos, nothing whatsoever, it must surely tell me what the problem is?

Not so :-(
My battery has possibly lasted an extra 10 minutes or so over the two hours of web browsing (my usual usage pattern). This amount is extremely negligible.
So it's not the battery, it isn't the apps, my phone isn't overheating, the location icon isn't on, the spinning wheel isn't on, there are no obvious hardware faults and yet my iPhone 5 still has dreadful battery life.
I'm truly stumped.

 

[dannyyankou]

iOS 7.1 - Slow Battery Drain (???)

It's lasted me the whole day since 9am. Could probably get another 45 mins - an hour out of it.

Update: day done

 

[bushman4]

A further update...
After discovering that my battery is indeed ok, I have done a fresh installation of iOS7.1 and set it up as a new phone. I haven't downloaded any apps, set up any email accounts, or indeed loaded anything whatsoever onto the phone. All I have done is adjusted the settings to how I usually have them for battery saving purposes, and I have been browsing the internet for the last 2 hours to see what kind of battery life a phone with no apps or data loaded onto it will get. This for me is to rule out once and for all the 'conflicting' or 'compromised' apps possibility behind my battery drain. As no email accounts are loaded up either, no photos, nothing whatsoever, it must surely tell me what the problem is?

Not so :-(
My battery has possibly lasted an extra 10 minutes or so over the two hours of web browsing (my usual usage pattern). This amount is extremely negligible.
So it's not the battery, it isn't the apps, my phone isn't overheating, the location icon isn't on, the spinning wheel isn't on, there are no obvious hardware faults and yet my iPhone 5 still has dreadful battery life.
I'm truly stumped.

Did the same thing. Battery drain did not improve.