iOS 7.1 vs iOS 6 UI Design Poll

[I7guy]

This forum represents less than 1% of iOS users around the world so the results of this poll do not speak for the majority of iOS users. And lets not forget this is an Apple forum. It's full of Apple loyalists who will get behind anything Apple does because they want the company to be successful. I would love to see this type of poll done on a random forum not related to Apple. Something tells me the results will be quite different. In fact, of all the people I've spoken to in person about iOS 7, not one of them has liked it. Most are indifferent or they hate it.



I'm not losing any sleep over it, but I do think its sad when I see people lowering their standards.



I'm not surprised that such a phrase is outlawed on this forum. It's easier to be ignorant and turn it into a meme than it is to actually discuss it.

The so called love/hate with iOS 7 could be age related or it could be an incorrect conclusion based in a skewed sample size. My circles like iOS 7, and as far as standards you know one mans garbage is another mans treasure and vice-versa.

It's also easier to call people ignorant than to discuss an alternative point if view.

 

[0000757]

It's been almost a year and people are still making iOS 6 vs 7 threads???

 

[BillyMatt87]

It's been almost a year and people are still making iOS 6 vs 7 threads???

As a fan of Apple, I can definitely admit that Apple has been slipping a bit and iOS 7 is a prime example of that. iOS 7 was nothing more than an ego project for Ive and the rushed development schedule was done to spite Scott Forstall and remove his contributions and legacy as quickly as they could. It saddens me that iOS 7 was a change for change's sake which goes against one of Apple's core principals. Call iOS 6 ugly or stale but honestly, that was iOS's peak. Yes the Apple Maps was and still is incomplete, the rest of the OS was damn near perfect.

The design is still as mediocre as it was back then and it seems that Apple is being a bit arrogant about it by not listening to feedback from people who know UI design and customers who have had their perfectly functional phone and tablet interfaces being unnecessarily tinkered with.

Jony Ive is a brilliant hardware designer without a doubt but is a terrible software designer. Tim Cook should man up like he did with Forstall and have Jony and his design team focus on hardware while hiring an outside person to be the head of UI design/Human interface.

I wish Tim Cook would've apologized for the buggy and amateurish new design direction for software.

As a fan of Apple, even I realize that Apple CAN be in the wrong and that we need to hold them accountable because a lot of Apple's success came from people like you and me. All these iOS 7 apologists really sadden me and unfortunately confirm some negative stereotypes of Apple fans/users.

iOS CAN get better but by accepting what we have as flawless and perfect will only enable Apple and Ive to let iOS go stale once again and fall into mediocrity which it shouldn't.

 

[byke]

As a fan of Apple, I can definitely admit that Apple has been slipping a bit and iOS 7 is a prime example of that. iOS 7 was nothing more than an ego project for Ive and the rushed development schedule was done to spite Scott Forstall and remove his contributions and legacy as quickly as they could. It saddens me that iOS 7 was a change for change's sake which goes against one of Apple's core principals. Call iOS 6 ugly or stale but honestly, that was iOS's peak. Yes the Apple Maps was and still is incomplete, the rest of the OS was damn near perfect.

The design is still as mediocre as it was back then and it seems that Apple is being a bit arrogant about it by not listening to feedback from people who know UI design and customers who have had their perfectly functional phone and tablet interfaces being unnecessarily tinkered with.

Jony Ive is a brilliant hardware designer without a doubt but is a terrible software designer. Tim Cook should man up like he did with Forstall and have Jony and his design team focus on hardware while hiring an outside person to be the head of UI design/Human interface.

I wish Tim Cook would've apologized for the buggy and amateurish new design direction for software.

As a fan of Apple, even I realize that Apple CAN be in the wrong and that we need to hold them accountable because a lot of Apple's success came from people like you and me. All these iOS 7 apologists really sadden me and unfortunately confirm some negative stereotypes of Apple fans/users.

iOS CAN get better but by accepting what we have as flawless and perfect will only enable Apple and Ive to let iOS go stale once again and fall into mediocrity which it shouldn't.

+1.

I think the iDevices really lost their magic during this transition.

And lets be honest, making apps flat with animations is considered better than what it was before, is laughable.

Detailed tiles versus basic un-detailed tiles.

I just wonder if Jonny has become bored with his occupation, and this move was seen as a way to try and keep him working for apple.

 

[0000757]

As a fan of Apple, I can definitely admit that Apple has been slipping a bit and iOS 7 is a prime example of that. iOS 7 was nothing more than an ego project for Ive and the rushed development schedule was done to spite Scott Forstall and remove his contributions and legacy as quickly as they could. It saddens me that iOS 7 was a change for change's sake which goes against one of Apple's core principals. Call iOS 6 ugly or stale but honestly, that was iOS's peak. Yes the Apple Maps was and still is incomplete, the rest of the OS was damn near perfect.

The design is still as mediocre as it was back then and it seems that Apple is being a bit arrogant about it by not listening to feedback from people who know UI design and customers who have had their perfectly functional phone and tablet interfaces being unnecessarily tinkered with.

Jony Ive is a brilliant hardware designer without a doubt but is a terrible software designer. Tim Cook should man up like he did with Forstall and have Jony and his design team focus on hardware while hiring an outside person to be the head of UI design/Human interface.

I wish Tim Cook would've apologized for the buggy and amateurish new design direction for software.

As a fan of Apple, even I realize that Apple CAN be in the wrong and that we need to hold them accountable because a lot of Apple's success came from people like you and me. All these iOS 7 apologists really sadden me and unfortunately confirm some negative stereotypes of Apple fans/users.

iOS CAN get better but by accepting what we have as flawless and perfect will only enable Apple and Ive to let iOS go stale once again and fall into mediocrity which it shouldn't.

+1.

I think the iDevices really lost their magic during this transition.

And lets be honest, making apps flat with animations is considered better than what it was before, is laughable.

Detailed tiles versus basic un-detailed tiles.

I just wonder if Jonny has become bored with his occupation, and this move was seen as a way to try and keep him working for apple.

You two are going to really hate the future.

Modern is in vogue, it's in style. The days of realism and skeuomorphism are dead. Samsung, Goole, HTC, Nokia, Microsoft, Apple, they all know it. Look at all of their designs. They all share the similar philosophy of dropping the gloss and the fake and creating a unifying design that is modern and puts the content first.

Look at iOS 6.1, Samsung Nature UX, HTC Sense <5, Old Nokia phones, the old Xbox Dash and Windows Phone <7, etc. They're all skeuomorphic and the direct focus of the content is lost.

The new redesign fades into the background and puts a focus on the user. That's how it will be for a long time. The only companies I can think of that still do the "skeuomorphic" approach now are Sony, RIM, and LG. If you like that fake gloss and realism, try out one of their devices.

 

[I7guy]

As a fan of Apple, I can definitely admit that Apple has been slipping a bit and iOS 7 is a prime example of that. iOS 7 was nothing more than an ego project for Ive and the rushed development schedule was done to spite Scott Forstall and remove his contributions and legacy as quickly as they could. It saddens me that iOS 7 was a change for change's sake which goes against one of Apple's core principals. Call iOS 6 ugly or stale but honestly, that was iOS's peak. Yes the Apple Maps was and still is incomplete, the rest of the OS was damn near perfect.

The design is still as mediocre as it was back then and it seems that Apple is being a bit arrogant about it by not listening to feedback from people who know UI design and customers who have had their perfectly functional phone and tablet interfaces being unnecessarily tinkered with.

Jony Ive is a brilliant hardware designer without a doubt but is a terrible software designer. Tim Cook should man up like he did with Forstall and have Jony and his design team focus on hardware while hiring an outside person to be the head of UI design/Human interface.

I wish Tim Cook would've apologized for the buggy and amateurish new design direction for software.

As a fan of Apple, even I realize that Apple CAN be in the wrong and that we need to hold them accountable because a lot of Apple's success came from people like you and me. All these iOS 7 apologists really sadden me and unfortunately confirm some negative stereotypes of Apple fans/users.

iOS CAN get better but by accepting what we have as flawless and perfect will only enable Apple and Ive to let iOS go stale once again and fall into mediocrity which it shouldn't.

Just saw a blurb, Apple on it's way to being the first trillion dollar company. That doesn't smack of a company that has lost it's way.

IOS 6 was clearly okay, and this, IOS 7 apologist, likes IOS 7 way better than IOS 6.

I frankly care not about apple politics. I needed a phone and when I decided on an iphone for various reasons I just bought it, a 5S. I bought an Ipad 2 prior to that.

I am also glad that you apologized for apple on behalf of Tim Cook, I noticed the stock market move after that. One other question, how are you going to hold apple accountable for "their mistakes"?

 

[Sky Blue]

I wish Tim Cook would've apologized for the buggy and amateurish new design direction for software.

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All these iOS 7 apologists really sadden me and unfortunately confirm some negative stereotypes of Apple fans/users.

iOS CAN get better but by accepting what we have as flawless and perfect will only enable Apple and Ive to let iOS go stale once again and fall into mediocrity which it shouldn't.

Christ on a BMX! you don't like it so Cook should apologize for it, and everyone who likes it is an apologist? Talk about self-absorbed.

iOS 7 isn't perfect but it's far better than iOS 6.

 

[curiosity]

I think polls here are not representative. Apple has too much money and most probably a large number of employees who pretend to be regular forum users.

However, there's still over 20% of iOS 6 votes. This clearly shows that Apple didn't manage to satisfy their customers with iOS 7. A Steve Jobs Apple would never have 20% of angry customers. Tim Cook & Co. seem to be happy when they reach just 70%. Perfectionist vs. slackers. Sad.

 

[C DM]

You two are going to really hate the future.

Modern is in vogue, it's in style. The days of realism and skeuomorphism are dead. Samsung, Goole, HTC, Nokia, Microsoft, Apple, they all know it. Look at all of their designs. They all share the similar philosophy of dropping the gloss and the fake and creating a unifying design that is modern and puts the content first.

Look at iOS 6.1, Samsung Nature UX, HTC Sense <5, Old Nokia phones, the old Xbox Dash and Windows Phone <7, etc. They're all skeuomorphic and the direct focus of the content is lost.

The new redesign fades into the background and puts a focus on the user. That's how it will be for a long time. The only companies I can think of that still do the "skeuomorphic" approach now are Sony, RIM, and LG. If you like that fake gloss and realism, try out one of their devices.

The new design fades so much into the background that it practically doesn't exist it at all: just a bunch of empty whitespace all over with random blue words to somehow signify actionable elements. Welcome to the World Wide Web in the early 1990's. If anything the future as far as designs go generally often ends up going back to things that were popular before and modifies them a bit (sometimes for the better sometimes not) and pretends they are brand new and amazing new designs and approaches.

 

[Sky Blue]

I think polls here are not representative. Apple has too much money and most probably a large number of employees who pretend to be regular forum users.

However, there's still over 20% of iOS 6 votes. This clearly shows that Apple didn't manage to satisfy their customers with iOS 7. A Steve Jobs Apple would never have 20% of angry customers. Tim Cook & Co. seem to be happy when they reach just 70%. Perfectionist vs. slackers. Sad.

haha, great satire! nice post!

 

[deluxeshredder]

Modern is in vogue, it's in style. The days of realism and skeuomorphism are dead.

Once upon a time, many thought that fast food will overtake proper food. Or that TV will bury the cinema. Or that blocky "functional" architecture will be the future.

History has shown that minimalistic trends don't last, and it loves to repeat itself. I wouldn't count on the flat UI trend to stay for very long.

They all share the similar philosophy of dropping the gloss and the fake and creating a unifying design that is modern and puts the content first.

Dropping the gloss and visual ornamentation does not put the content first, it makes the chrome merge with the content and the controls less crisp. Most content is flat and bright, so chrome should not be flat and white.

And how tasteful textures are more "fake" than horrendous gradients and white spaces?

Look at iOS 6.1, Samsung Nature UX, HTC Sense <5, Old Nokia phones, the old Xbox Dash and Windows Phone <7, etc. They're all skeuomorphic and the direct focus of the content is lost.

Sense 5+ is not very flat and old Nokia UIs were quite flat.

 

[I7guy]

The new design fades so much into the background that it practically doesn't exist it at all: just a bunch of empty whitespace all over with random blue words to somehow signify actionable elements. Welcome to the World Wide Web in the early 1990's. If anything the future as far as designs go generally often ends up going back to things that were popular before and modifies them a bit (sometimes for the better sometimes not) and pretends they are brand new and amazing new designs and approaches.

What I got from this post is the World Wide Web in the early 1990's was way ahead of it's time and from there regressed until IOS 7.

 

[C DM]

What I got from this post is the World Wide Web in the early 1990's was way ahead of it's time and from there regressed until IOS 7.

That must be it...that or time travel.

 

[BillyMatt87]

Christ on a BMX! you don't like it so Cook should apologize for it, and everyone who likes it is an apologist? Talk about self-absorbed.

iOS 7 isn't perfect but it's far better than iOS 6.

Tim Cook apologized for the Apple Maps in iOS 6, which honestly pales in comparison to iOS 7. Tim Cook also had to courage to fire Scott Forstall, so he should muster up that same courage to demote Jony Ive back to hardware design where he belongs.

 

[I7guy]

Apple maps was a disaster in iOS 6. That's not true of ios7.

 

[Dented]

Tim Cook apologized for the Apple Maps in iOS 6, which honestly pales in comparison to iOS 7.

Do you think apple maps would have met with around 76% approval in a poll like this a year ago? I don't think so. I'm not even sure it would muster that now.

Outside of a minority of posters IOS 7 has not caused the same level of problems or had anything like the same negative reaction from the public and press generally that apple maps provoked. Most people actually get along with it just fine - and devices like the iPhone 5S, 5C and iPad Air etc all seem to have sold just fine off the back of it too. Why would anyone be apologising?

 

[Sky Blue]

Tim Cook apologized for the Apple Maps in iOS 6, which honestly pales in comparison to iOS 7.

lol, ok dude.

 

[byke]

Tim Cook apologized for the Apple Maps in iOS 6, which honestly pales in comparison to iOS 7. Tim Cook also had to courage to fire Scott Forstall, so he should muster up that same courage to demote Jony Ive back to hardware design where he belongs.

I wonder if it was courage, or an ultimatum of risking loosing Jonny so soon after Jobs.

Imagine that for publicity.

Apple really did loose more than people could truly appreciate after Jobs.

 

[BillyMatt87]

I wonder if it was courage, or an ultimatum of risking loosing Jonny so soon after Jobs.

Imagine that for publicity.

Apple really did loose more than people could truly appreciate after Jobs.

There's no reason to fire Jony at all because his hardware designs are consistently great and have played an important role in revitalizing Apple to where they are today but they should look into hiring someone on the outside to lead the UI/Human Interface department because that is not Jony's field. They should for somebody with the same credentials as Forstall but not necessarily the same design taste.

Like I said before don't fire Ive, just demote him and get a professional UI designer to work on the UIs for iOS and OS X.

 

[Dented]

I wonder if it was courage, or an ultimatum of risking loosing Jonny so soon after Jobs.



Imagine that for publicity.



Apple really did loose more than people could truly appreciate after Jobs.

Lose, not loose. You buy your apples loose, if you drop them you might lose one. One O. Anyway.

By attempting to channel the undead spirit of jobs into your side of the argument, you just invalidate it as far as I'm concerned. Yes jobs was great, yes jobs also released products and software with the occasional bugs in, yes jobs even released products that not everyone liked sometimes.

Oh and one of his defining characteristics? Embracing change. Skating where the puck is going to be rather than where it is. Never being afraid to ditch something, no matter how much people thought they needed it, in order to bring them something better. You think you'd be using IOS 6 still if he was around? Forget that.

 

[BillyMatt87]

Do you think apple maps would have met with around 76% approval in a poll like this a year ago? I don't think so. I'm not even sure it would muster that now.

Outside of a minority of posters IOS 7 has not caused the same level of problems or had anything like the same negative reaction from the public and press generally that apple maps provoked. Most people actually get along with it just fine - and devices like the iPhone 5S, 5C and iPad Air etc all seem to have sold just fine off the back of it too. Why would anyone be apologising?

Initially when iOS 6 was announced, Apple's maps were not met with nearly the same kind of public scorn that iOS 7's design had when it was announced last year. The maps only became a problem once iOS 6 was launched but for iOS 7, the complaints about rail-thin fonts, overly saturated colors, hard-to-identify buttons, inconsistent icons and overly white spaced apps remain consistent to this day until Apple fully acknowledges the complaints and decides to fix them.

iOS 7 still hasn't completely grown on me and when I use devices still running iOS 6, it feels more welcoming and friendlier to use.All the people on this forum that are in love with iOS 7 and refuse to acknowledge any flaws always talk about how ugly iOS 6 and below suddenly is now and how they "cringe" by looking at it.

What makes me "cringe" is the fact that a much better designed OS was replaced by a half-baked and amateurishly designed one by the SAME FREAKING COMPANY!

When iOS 7 apologists taunt me into switching to Android or Windows, I always tell them how the alternatives aren't any better but it just sickens me that Apple, of all companies, would stoop to their level.

No one's asking for a return to the design iOS 6, people did want a new UI for iOS and while the overall philosophy of iOS 7 is great, its execution was terrible due to the fact that an industrial designer suddenly thinks he knows how to design software.

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Lose, not loose. You buy your apples loose, if you drop them you might lose one. One O. Anyway.

By attempting to channel the undead spirit of jobs into your side of the argument, you just invalidate it as far as I'm concerned. Yes jobs was great, yes jobs also released products and software with the occasional bugs in, yes jobs even released products that not everyone liked sometimes.

Oh and one of his defining characteristics? Embracing change. Skating where the puck is going to be rather than where it is. Never being afraid to ditch something, no matter how much people thought they needed it, in order to bring them something better. You think you'd be using IOS 6 still if he was around? Forget that.

First of all, if Steve Jobs was alive and still the CEO, there's no way in hell that he would've fired Scott Forstall therefore, iOS and OS X would keep the same overall design and we would be looking at a solid iOS 7 update with the probably the same features as we do now but no radical redesign and the battery and performance would most likely be better than it is now.

Change for the sake of change is against Apple's design philosophy and therefore, Cook and Ive betrayed one of their core principals to cave into market demands and to spite Forstall and remove his legacy as quickly as they could.

 

[Dented]

Initially when iOS 6 was announced, Apple's maps were not met with nearly the same kind of public scorn that iOS 7's design had when it was announced last year. The maps only became a problem once iOS 6 was launched but for iOS 7, the complaints about rail-thin fonts, overly saturated colors, hard-to-identify buttons, inconsistent icons and overly white spaced apps remain consistent to this day until Apple fully acknowledges the complaints and decides to fix them.

Just completely disagree with this in every way. When apple maps was announced it was just a mapping app on a screen that looked ok - nobody could know how bad it actually was until people all around the world could actually use and test it. That's when the ****** hit the fan because ordinary users - in their millions - found that a core part of the OS they had been relying on had been replaced by something rubbish that didn't know where anything was.

The furore you're imagining over IOS 7 amounts to a few genuine issues being dealt with during beta testing (exactly when they should be) followed a few armchair designers insisting that anything remaining that they don't personally like is a "bug". Meanwhile millions of ordinary users get along with it just fine and the supposed litany of complaints is completely inaudible outside of these threads.

iOS 7 still hasn't completely grown on me.

NEWSFLASH - it probably never will. You don't like it. This is not a bug, and not an issue which Apple will ever fix.

 

[Dented]

First of all, if Steve Jobs was alive and still the CEO, there's no way in hell that he would've fired Scott Forstall therefore, iOS and OS X would keep the same overall design and we would be looking at a solid iOS 7 update with the probably the same features as we do now but no radical redesign and the battery and performance would most likely be better than it is now.

Complete supposition. If Apple maps had been released under Jobs and made Jobs look that bad, you think Forstall would have been home free and in the clear? That's very doubtful. Equally you really think that Jobs - if he was still top of his game and not mostly absent through sickness - would have let IOS plod along the way it was while android and windows got all the plaudits for being fresh and modern etc? I don't think so.

As for battery and performance - a Jobs/Forstall IOS 7 would still have had to be equipped for 64 bit and all the other new technologies under the hood. You really think that it was Ive's icon design that caused those issues for some people?

Change for the sake of change is against Apple's design philosophy and therefore, Cook and Ive betrayed one of their core principals to cave into market demands and to spite Forstall and remove his legacy as quickly as they could.

Just nonsense. Change is in apple's DNA and always has been.

 

[iolinux333]

New! Modern! Fresh! Unobtrusive! Stays out of your way and let's you concentrate on the task at hand!

Old fashioned! So many non-functional elements! Obtrusive!!!

 

[Rodster]

New! Modern! Fresh! Unobtrusive! Stays out of your way and let's you concentrate on the task at hand!


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Old fashioned! So many non-functional elements! Obtrusive!!!


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