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I might if she said something negative about my iPhone!! :D

OP Is there a point to this thread or were you just bored ?!

I wanted to give my opinions and see if people agreed with me. I believe Apple follows forums like this.
 
By the way, if you weren't aware, the general public approves of iOS 7 overall by a pretty big margin.
Source: http://bgr.com/2013/06/18/tim-cook-vs-jony-ive-wwdc-2013/

You're missing the point of the silent majority. Yes, there have been a lot of complaints about the look of the iOS 7 UI. The difference is, the only people that are vocal about it are the unhappy ones. The people who are happy with it aren't saying anything, and there are more of them.
 
There is one behavior I have not quite understood.

Why is it that iPhone users just use their phone and are happy and Android users go out of their way to trash talk Apple and the iPhone?

It's like breaking up with your girlfriend and telling people how bad she was even though you're not with her anymore. Meanwhile, she's already moved on.

I use an iPhone right now. It's more like going to therapy to save the relationship.

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By the way, if you weren't aware, the general public approves of iOS 7 overall by a pretty big margin.
Source: http://bgr.com/2013/06/18/tim-cook-vs-jony-ive-wwdc-2013/

You're missing the point of the silent majority. Yes, there have been a lot of complaints about the look of the iOS 7 UI. The difference is, the only people that are vocal about it are the unhappy ones. The people who are happy with it aren't saying anything, and there are more of them.

You might be right. The most vocal ones are those that are unhappy.

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Wait until the final version is released and you have had time to go hands on with it yourself before passing final judgment, not on a beta product that you have only seen with screenshots.

Yes. I might change my mind when I actually use iOS 7.
 
Case in point!
Why create a whole new thread to complain about iOS7 when you've been complaining in almost every comment you've made in other threads?
First of all, if you want Apple to know how you feel about iOS7 make sure you do it on their support forums or via email. I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't have their employees read forums to see what customers think.
Second of all, you're just throwing random numbers and ideas. Apple will lose at LEAST 25% of customers over iOS7? Ive will definitely be fired after release because it will be a flop? Did you watch the WWDC keynote? How could you not see how all the guys on stage were in sync and excited about what they're doing? They all seem to be on the same page in regards to iOS7 and more importantly the future.
iOS 7 will push the envelope with what's possible on a mobile device. Parallax and such might be just for show for now, but wait until developers start running with this stuff and until Apple releases the full iOS7 this fall.
 
There's no reason to go with an iPhone or not. It's all personal opinion and subjective, and it's all different for everyone at different times/places.

So, no opinion one way or another is any better or worse. What someone thinks is good or bad for them, has no relation or perhaps even meaning as to what it is for someone else.

Make up your own mind, use what you want and how you want it, and don't try to justify it to others or seek the opinion of others when it comes to something that's purely personal and has no relationship to others at all.
 
Because its an iPhone. Many of us geeky folks seem to be quite hung up on torturing Cupertino for its choice of icons and other minor points. The reality is we want a phone that has an excellent build quality, a rich ecosystem and simplistic functionality. iOS 7 is not going to please everyone but Cupertino is making strides. They are evolving this OS into a more complicated, feature rich software while walking the fine line of not making it too complicated so that the 3 year old or the 80 year old doesn't struggle to use it.

iOS 7 is an excellent step forward and future installments will likely improve our experiences with what I would consider the best built phone and best built tablet on the market today.

exactly.
 
I use an iPhone right now. It's more like going to therapy to save the relationship.

There is nothing to save. If you dont like the iphone anymore go try something else. It's not a big deal. I abandoned Apple with my iphone 3GS and went to an HTC Evo 4G for 2 years and finally came back. I've had a taste of both and prefer the iphone for my own reasons.
 
So my reasoning is. Why buy an iPhone if you can buy an Android phone that has a similar ui, the same applications, better services (maps and voice search) and equally good cameras?

I am very disappointed of iOS 7. Apple should instead have refined the old ui and just removed the skeuomorphic design. iOS 7 looks childish and more like a game than a modern operating system. Not all of iOS 7 design elements are bad. i like how the popup notification menus look and how the notification drop down menu also look crisp but folders and control center has an over the top gaussian blur look. Icons is also poorly designed, buttons has been removed and menus look more plain. The feel of using iOS 7 is great but the design does not match the features.

Apple have recently been critiqued on maps and voice search where Google has a huge lead. Could Apple recover from a bad iOS 7 release?

In my case (ater 3 years using Android) I picked iOS for being a more stable and secure OS. I spent years of headache with Android and even thought I know they have improved the OS, IMO is not close to iOS. When is comes to the camera, I wont call them equally good. The iPhone 5 camera is way better that any Android built today. My little sister was trolling me that the GS4 had a better camera so I stop at the AT&T store and did a test.

So far I love what they did with iOS 7 then only thing I don't like is the icon design/colors, but that wont make me switch to Android.
 

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The iPhone have been an incredible success story for Apple but Android has been gaining ground for a couple of years. The Samsung Galaxy S3 was the first android phone that really swept the market. I have equally the number of friends that have the S3 as friends with iPhones.

My friends that uses iPhones prefers this phone because the software is easy to understand and the applications is visually appealing. The iPhone has also always had great hardware with good cameras. Hipstamatic and Instagram is two successful photo applications and the iPhone is the number one camera on Flickr.

But Instagram is also available on Android now and I bet Hipstamatic will also be on Android soon. Hipstamatic released the Oogl app last month and its a product similar to Instagram where you curate photos among your friends. iOS 7 is a flatter look that is very similar to Android. iOS system and default applications has lost the rich ui that many Apple users loved. I have heard for years many Apple users make fun of Androids flat interface and bits of ugly design elements.

So my reasoning is. Why buy an iPhone if you can buy an Android phone that has a similar ui, the same applications, better services (maps and voice search) and equally good cameras?

I am very disappointed of iOS 7. Apple should instead have refined the old ui and just removed the skeuomorphic design. iOS 7 looks childish and more like a game than a modern operating system. Not all of iOS 7 design elements are bad. i like how the popup notification menus look and how the notification drop down menu also look crisp but folders and control center has an over the top gaussian blur look. Icons is also poorly designed, buttons has been removed and menus look more plain. The feel of using iOS 7 is great but the design does not match the features.

Apple have recently been critiqued on maps and voice search where Google has a huge lead. Could Apple recover from a bad iOS 7 release? It's hard to review iOS 7 because its a visual mixed bag and the old ui had some very ugly skeuomorphic design elements. Some says that Apple still have time and that iOS 7 is still a beta release but if Apple wanted to improve some design elements they would have done it by now.

How much are you getting paid to post this nonsense? You have been on here for a year spouting FUD about iOS since 6 was shown. Also going on about how Apple lost you as a customer but you are still here??

You are a paid mouthpiece or just a troll, where's the ignore button.
 
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Haha, is it ignorance to post critique about Apple products in a forum about Apple products?

No, but it's ignorant to not expect people to disagree with you in a forum about Apple products. Let me be clear- it doesn't make you ignorant, I'm just saying that such an expectation is ignorant.

Case in point!
Why create a whole new thread to complain about iOS7 when you've been complaining in almost every comment you've made in other threads?

I'm going to have to agree with this person. I vaguely remember you posting at least one similar thread to this one shortly after iOS 7 was announced, and I've seen you posting your negative thoughts throughout several threads. Do you think you'll really change peoples' minds? Do you think you're going to affect Apple's direction with iOS 7?

You obviously have every right to post your thoughts, and I hope people are respectful of that. But doesn't there come a point where you realize that you've said all you can say?
 
I think parts of iOS 7 need to be refined and need to perhaps "mature" a bit, but it's not a "risk the company project." It's a new direction because it's time to go in a new direction whether Android or the Galaxy S3 existed or not. And if we're going to get anecdotal, I still have way more friends with iPhones than Android phones, and while the S3 has definitely become the most popular Android phone, well over half of them bought it because they're still on T-Mobile and T-Mobile only recently got the iPhone. And don't kid yourself into thinking that normal people have any idea how to unlock an iPhone, let alone whether they're willing to buy new devices at full retail pricing.
 
Oh, and I have no problem with Control Center. I actually think it's about perfect, and the most refined "new thing." The dock and the folders are what really need work. They look hideous as is. If you're going to go for translucent, you've got to let a little more light through unless you want everything looking like a muddy gray. I really can't get over how utterly bad the dock and folders look. I can bury the Settings app and Safari in a folder so they're less awful to look at for now, but you can't very well get away from the Dock and to not use folders is absurd. What scares me though is that it seems that of all the things, that'd be a very easy area to address, yet they haven't. I just don't get it. I haven't talked to anyone that hasn't noted how ugly the new dock and folders are. It's just mind-blowing to me that they're being shown in this manner and how anyone would find it acceptable.

My only hope is that it's an elaborate joke and basically an intentional blur to mask something glorious they'll only reveal when iOS 7 officially launches. Silly dreams, silly dreams...
 
It may look different, but the things that made the iPhone great to begin with have not changed. Quality apps, visually pleasing UI (I know this is subjective, but there is a certain "smoothness" that the iPhone has that the other phones simply lack), easy to setup and understand, Apple ecosystem.

That last one being the big one..

If you are trying to validate a switch to Android, go ahead. The fact is, anyone who is invested in the Apple ecosystem, will most likely stick with it.
 
I didn't see any strong arguments to why Apple is at risk, only saw personal opinion that's just that: personal opinion. Does not reflect the rest of the world.

From the screenshots and launch video, I kinda am excited to try out a "brand new" IOS to tinker and see what new discoveries await me!

From another point of view, I see iPhone as a hard, tough, workaholic kind of person.

And I see Android as a relaxed, joyful, chillin' fellow.
 
Let's be honest, the first time you bought your iDevice, did you look at it and think:

Instagram - yes
App logos look cool - yes
Etc

Did you heck, you looked at the tech specs, or you got it because everyone else was buying it. Simple!


If you never used Instagram, apps etc to choose your smartphone then why would others?
 
The iPhone have been an incredible success story for Apple but Android has been gaining ground for a couple of years. The Samsung Galaxy S3 was the first android phone that really swept the market. I have equally the number of friends that have the S3 as friends with iPhones.

My friends that uses iPhones prefers this phone because the software is easy to understand and the applications is visually appealing. The iPhone has also always had great hardware with good cameras. Hipstamatic and Instagram is two successful photo applications and the iPhone is the number one camera on Flickr.

But Instagram is also available on Android now and I bet Hipstamatic will also be on Android soon. Hipstamatic released the Oogl app last month and its a product similar to Instagram where you curate photos among your friends. iOS 7 is a flatter look that is very similar to Android. iOS system and default applications has lost the rich ui that many Apple users loved. I have heard for years many Apple users make fun of Androids flat interface and bits of ugly design elements.

So my reasoning is. Why buy an iPhone if you can buy an Android phone that has a similar ui, the same applications, better services (maps and voice search) and equally good cameras?

I am very disappointed of iOS 7. Apple should instead have refined the old ui and just removed the skeuomorphic design. iOS 7 looks childish and more like a game than a modern operating system. Not all of iOS 7 design elements are bad. i like how the popup notification menus look and how the notification drop down menu also look crisp but folders and control center has an over the top gaussian blur look. Icons is also poorly designed, buttons has been removed and menus look more plain. The feel of using iOS 7 is great but the design does not match the features.

Apple have recently been critiqued on maps and voice search where Google has a huge lead. Could Apple recover from a bad iOS 7 release? It's hard to review iOS 7 because its a visual mixed bag and the old ui had some very ugly skeuomorphic design elements. Some says that Apple still have time and that iOS 7 is still a beta release but if Apple wanted to improve some design elements they would have done it by now.

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So far I am not liking iOS 7 much but Apple has dramatically higher revenue, loyalty, usage, and just about every other metric far above Android. So what you see your friends using is not a very useful anecdote.

The iPhone have been an incredible success story for Apple but Android has been gaining ground for a couple of years. The Samsung Galaxy S3 was the first android phone that really swept the market. I have equally the number of friends that have the S3 as friends with iPhones.

My friends that uses iPhones prefers this phone because the software is easy to understand and the applications is visually appealing. The iPhone has also always had great hardware with good cameras. Hipstamatic and Instagram is two successful photo applications and the iPhone is the number one camera on Flickr.

But Instagram is also available on Android now and I bet Hipstamatic will also be on Android soon. Hipstamatic released the Oogl app last month and its a product similar to Instagram where you curate photos among your friends. iOS 7 is a flatter look that is very similar to Android. iOS system and default applications has lost the rich ui that many Apple users loved. I have heard for years many Apple users make fun of Androids flat interface and bits of ugly design elements.

So my reasoning is. Why buy an iPhone if you can buy an Android phone that has a similar ui, the same applications, better services (maps and voice search) and equally good cameras?

I am very disappointed of iOS 7. Apple should instead have refined the old ui and just removed the skeuomorphic design. iOS 7 looks childish and more like a game than a modern operating system. Not all of iOS 7 design elements are bad. i like how the popup notification menus look and how the notification drop down menu also look crisp but folders and control center has an over the top gaussian blur look. Icons is also poorly designed, buttons has been removed and menus look more plain. The feel of using iOS 7 is great but the design does not match the features.

Apple have recently been critiqued on maps and voice search where Google has a huge lead. Could Apple recover from a bad iOS 7 release? It's hard to review iOS 7 because its a visual mixed bag and the old ui had some very ugly skeuomorphic design elements. Some says that Apple still have time and that iOS 7 is still a beta release but if Apple wanted to improve some design elements they would have done it by now.
 
How much are you getting paid to post this nonsense? You have been on here for a year spouting FUD about iOS since 6 was shown. Also going on about how Apple lost you as a customer but you are still here??

You are a paid mouthpiece or just a troll, where's the ignore button.

I think you might be on to something...
 
Under the hood, iOS 7 and Android are completely different.

That's what the OP has failed to understand and the only thing that needs to be said in this thread.
 
Yeah this is a big bet on Apples part as iOS devices are their bread and butter. The fact that Apple is parading iOS 7 with its current look is proof that its not going to change much. They said this is the biggest thing to happen to the iPhone since the original release during the keynote. You don't say things like that only to drastically change it.

There are some reports out there that say Apple engineers have quietly said the color pallets were picked by the marketing team the the design is subject to change. If that's the case then shame on Apple for that. It's the biggest thing to happen to the iPhone only for you to say whoopsie in a couple months with the design.
 
The iPhone have been an incredible success story for Apple but Android has been gaining ground for a couple of years. The Samsung Galaxy S3 was the first android phone that really swept the market. I have equally the number of friends that have the S3 as friends with iPhones.

My friends that uses iPhones prefers this phone because the software is easy to understand and the applications is visually appealing. The iPhone has also always had great hardware with good cameras. Hipstamatic and Instagram is two successful photo applications and the iPhone is the number one camera on Flickr.

But Instagram is also available on Android now and I bet Hipstamatic will also be on Android soon. Hipstamatic released the Oogl app last month and its a product similar to Instagram where you curate photos among your friends. iOS 7 is a flatter look that is very similar to Android. iOS system and default applications has lost the rich ui that many Apple users loved. I have heard for years many Apple users make fun of Androids flat interface and bits of ugly design elements.

So my reasoning is. Why buy an iPhone if you can buy an Android phone that has a similar ui, the same applications, better services (maps and voice search) and equally good cameras?

I am very disappointed of iOS 7. Apple should instead have refined the old ui and just removed the skeuomorphic design. iOS 7 looks childish and more like a game than a modern operating system. Not all of iOS 7 design elements are bad. i like how the popup notification menus look and how the notification drop down menu also look crisp but folders and control center has an over the top gaussian blur look. Icons is also poorly designed, buttons has been removed and menus look more plain. The feel of using iOS 7 is great but the design does not match the features.

Apple have recently been critiqued on maps and voice search where Google has a huge lead. Could Apple recover from a bad iOS 7 release? It's hard to review iOS 7 because its a visual mixed bag and the old ui had some very ugly skeuomorphic design elements. Some says that Apple still have time and that iOS 7 is still a beta release but if Apple wanted to improve some design elements they would have done it by now.

I agree with you. I also looking at Android after years with Apple. I'm going to activate T-MO 30 dollars prepaid line and carry 2 phones. I'm to lazy and have no time to switch , but I don't want to pay extra and use limited firmware waiting for a jailbreak. A new Galaxy Google Edition is on the way already.
I'm going to miss only one thing from Apple :iMessages.
People can say whatever they want, but I think that you read my mind and expressed it here.
 
Went from WebOS, to Android 2.3, to iOS 5. I cannot speak for the newer Android releases, but the difference was night and day for me. I missed some features of WebOS and Android, but iOS was by far the most stable and that matters most to me.

Now the cards in iOS 7 are exactly like WebOS so I no longer miss that OS. We just need widgets now and I will have no reason to miss Android.

The hardware fragmentation really hurts the games on Android. With the Sony store and Nvidia stores only working on some phones and not others. Games only supporting some APUs and not others. It's pretty bad IMO. Most high end games work on the iPhone 4 and up and look and play great. That was also a big deal for me.

Say what you will, I still feel Apple's strategy works best. Ugly icons aside, iOS 7 has some awesome features that really brings iOS back up to where it needs to be feature wise.
 
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