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iOS 7 Now on 73% of Devices, But Adoption Rates 'Much Slower' Than iOS 6

Many people do not like change. Although this forum was flooded with compalints of the old out of date desigh of iOS 6, most users were very happy with it.

It would be nice if they compared iOS 7 upgrades with Android upgrades. That would be far more enlightening.
 
RRmalvado said:
And what about those who just sit there and reply with:

1. "I've never had this issue on my xxxxx"
2. "User error"
3. "Switch to Android"
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(1) I'm not sure why you have a problem with someone saying they have never had XXXX-issues. That actually helps so people don't think the issues are widespread as some very vocal people here try and make it out to be.

(2) I've seen multiple times right here that someone was doing something wrong but didn't think they were until others explained what to do so your point is moot on that one.

(3) I've only seen the "Switch to Android" replies when someone is blatantly hating on iOS without any real point to their rant. Case in point the very first post in this thread just saying, "No surprise here, iOS7 Sucks". Completely pointless post that deserves such a reply as "Switch to Android". ;)
 
appleii.c said:
I never told anyone to shut up so I hope you weren't inferring I did. But as you mention, this is a discussion forum so I assume I'm entitled to MY opinion also.

I was just being curious why it is that people seem to always complain about something and always threaten to leave but never do? I'm sure if you go back and read previous posts from all the "iOS_ sucks, I'm switching to ____" you'll find the same complaints and patterns for all versions. iOS4, iOS5, 6 and now 7. If the corner pizza joint is terrible, and there's one next door... I'll stop eating there. I'm not gonna keep going just to keep complaining.
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Actually, NO. I liked all the previous revisions (and I was a launch adopter of the original iPhone in 2007). But iOS7 is something completely different and unusable. Luckily, I still had my iPhone 4 (with iOS6) when my new 5c arrived with iOS7. I loved the phone, but actually returned it because I can't live with iOS7. This isn't aversion to change, this is aversion to something that just isn't intuitive, easy to use, or improved in any way. Well, except for the text tones, I did like those ;)
 
chr1s60 said:
I was simply referring to the adoption rate of a new OS version. Not actual features. The fragmentation of which devices get the new software and when they get them depending on carrier and whatnot absolutely killed the Android experience for me when I switched. Though there were things that I liked about the OS, the fact that you can have a 6 month old phone that won't get a software update that was released 2 weeks ago until 3-6 months down the line is simply ridiculous to me. And the whole upgrading on your own through rooting a device is not a practical alternative.
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You can't compare the adoption rate of iOS and Android because they couldn't possibly be any more different.

Apple is the sole manufacturer of all things iOS, so of course they'll be able to update their fleet faster.

Android does not have a sole manufacturer. Any company is free to take Google's code and develop it into any product they want. And as such, it's next to impossible to update the entire Android fleet at the same time because of all the different hardware configurations out there.

iOS and Android updates are not handled the same way, they never have been. The fact that Apple can't wait to compare their adoption rate to Android's during every keynote is just plain embarrassing because they KNOW there's no challenge for them to update their whole fleet at the same time. But they inject a perception to their fanbase like that's some huge accomplishment when it's not.

If you want an Android phone that gets near instant updates to the latest and greatest, you buy a Nexus device. That's the whole reason Google started selling such devices.
 
Meandmunch said:
Design qualities aside, iOS 7 broke my damn phone. I have a 4s and it;s performance is a joke now. It slowed it way the hell down and frequently locks up. Never had these issues before. Animations are laggy to the point where transitions will simply stop for a full second THEN finish launching what ever App I was heading into.
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A 4s? It's about to trade in for a 5s with the A7 chip to handle it. My new 5s's should be arriving sometime next week.
 
FrizzleFryBen said:
Anecdotal. I was at a bar last night with a bunch of old friends. 3 had android. 5 had iPhones. Every person with an android bitched about their phones at one point or another. The ones with iPhones didn't even talk about their phones.
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"Siri, tell me a joke."
"2 iPhones...."

:D
 
iOS7 has been fantastic on my 4S. No issues with the upgrade and the animations and performance have been smooth and snappy. Never experienced any crashes whatsoever. It could use a few more customizable options but other than that I love it much more than iOS 6. :)
 
FrizzleFryBen said:
Anecdotal. I was at a bar last night with a bunch of old friends. 3 had android. 5 had iPhones. Every person with an android bitched about their phones at one point or another. The ones with iPhones didn't even talk about their phones.
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Last sentence makes it interesting if you don't finish it up...

You can take it either way...;)

a) They like it so much that they don't feel like rubbing salt in the wound.
or
b) They hate it so much that they don't even want to talk about it...

hm...:rolleyes:
 
MacRumors said:
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Apple's iOS 7 adoption rates may have been slower than previously thought..What’s behind these patterns? We can’t say for certain,

Article Link: iOS 7 Now on 73% of Devices, But Adoption Rates 'Much Slower' Than iOS 6
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What's behind these patterns you ask.

Try this thought on....our granddaughter is 6 and has autism. She has mastered UTube on IOS 6. Loves it and now has access to a world of kids videos.

Whoops.....the UTube app changed dramatically in IOS 7. This locks her out from a whole world. She just can't 'get it' due to her disability. So.....we will avoid IOS 7 as long as humanly possible.

No suggestions please unless you have an autistic child low on the spectrum. However, in that case you know well what I'm talking about.
 
JHankwitz said:
Many people do not like change. Although this forum was flooded with compalints of the old out of date desigh of iOS 6, most users were very happy with it.

It would be nice if they compared iOS 7 upgrades with Android upgrades. That would be far more enlightening.
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Thats because most of the changes were a fresh coat of paint and very few were in actual function of the OS which is what people wanted changed to. Control centre was one change people were asking for but other than that the changes were stupid. Like now I have to swipe the opposite way to delete an email? really? Heres your sign Ives
 
newdeal said:
Thats because most of the changes were a fresh coat of paint and very few were in actual function of the OS which is what people wanted changed to. Control centre was one change people were asking for but other than that the changes were stupid. Like now I have to swipe the opposite way to delete an email? really? Heres your sign Ives
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I would have LOVED the ability to assign my own default apps, like using Chrome, Google Maps, or another mail client. I don't understand why Apple is preventing us from doing this, unless they're truly afraid that their competitors offerings are better than theirs.

Also, when are they going to let us assign our own sounds to third party apps? I'd love to change the sound Gmail makes when I get a new email...
 
spectrumfox said:
You can't compare the adoption rate of iOS and Android because they couldn't possibly be any more different.

Apple is the sole manufacturer of all things iOS, so of course they'll be able to update their fleet faster.

Android does not have a sole manufacturer. Any company is free to take Google's code and develop it into any product they want. And as such, it's next to impossible to update the entire Android fleet at the same time because of all the different hardware configurations out there.

iOS and Android updates are not handled the same way, they never have been. The fact that Apple can't wait to compare their adoption rate to Android's during every keynote is just plain embarrassing because they KNOW there's no challenge for them to update their whole fleet at the same time. But they inject a perception to their fanbase like that's some huge accomplishment when it's not.

If you want an Android phone that gets near instant updates to the latest and greatest, you buy a Nexus device. That's the whole reason Google started selling such devices.
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Its true that iOS and Android are different in this regard.

However, it is completely valid for Apple to continually hammer away at this point as anyone who owns a later generation iOS device can pick up the latest iOS updates as soon as those updates are available. Whereas Android based phone users must wait until their vendor of choice has uptaken and ported the latest release of Android.

That the ownership experience is different and arguably worse in this regard for Android users as compared to iOS users is the important point. The reasons why, not so much.
 
kobalap said:
Its true that iOS and Android are different in this regard.

However, it is completely valid for Apple to continually hammer away at this point as anyone who owns a later generation iOS device can pick up the latest iOS updates as soon as those updates are available. Whereas Android based phone users must wait until their vendor of choice has uptaken and ported the latest release of Android.

That the ownership experience is different and arguably worse in this regard for Android users as compared to iOS users is the important point. The reasons why, not so much.
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That is a much better, and much more valid way of looking at it. Android users must wait for their vendors to adopt Android updates for their device.

However, it is important to point out that while a later gen iPhone can get iOS 7, they won't receive all of the benefits of iOS 7. Whereas a later gen Android that happens to get updated to Jelly Bean will receive all of the benefits of Jelly Bean.

And "ownership experience" is all relative, and differs depending on who you ask. I have a good number of tech friends who swear by iOS and a good number who swear by Android. Those who love iOS dislike Android for their own reasons and those who love Android dislike iOS for their own reasons.
 
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Cliff Notes version of this thread:

A: I hate iOS7! Fire Jon and Tim! Apple is in trouble!!
B: Go to Android or Samsung! The check is in the mail!


A: iOS7 is great! I haven't had any issues. It takes time to adapt but I like it.
B: What? Only people who like this are fanbois. They would accept anything Apple would do.
 
I'm not necessarily gaga about the iOS 7 interface, but I wasn't really enamored with iOS 6 either. I think iOS 7 is certainly a step in the right direction though, and it added a lot of nifty features, so, you know, nothing to sue over… oh wait.
 
KPOM said:
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As for the 5c, it seems Apple underestimated demand for the more expensive product and overestimated demand for the cheaper product. That's a problem lots of companies would love to have.
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False.

Other companies would love to have this problem IF the margins were higher on the higher cost product.

Apple's margins are much higher on the plastic phone with last year's tech, which is also missing a new camera, fingerprint reader, 64bit processor, M7 chip, metal body, etc...

Think about it.

:rolleyes:
 
For everyone saying they hate iOS7 can you give me some reasons why? I mostly see one liners, "I hate iOS7 :angryface:

I love iOS7, every aspect of it has been more intuitive and increased usability. I don't know why people are bashing it. I haven't run into any crashes or bugs.

While the graphic overhaul is drastic, I think they made a great move. I do think it needs a bit more sophistication, but at the same time I see how this differentiation of aesthetic is a move towards a new user experience. It's not perfect, but it is the first big change in iOS and will only get better with time.

When I look at iOS7 with iOS6 side by side, 7 looks so much better as a mobile interface. The simplicity is welcome change and 6 Just looks cluttered.
 
iChrist said:
False.

Other companies would love to have this problem IF the margins were higher on the higher cost product.

Apple's margins are much higher on the plastic phone with last year's tech, which is also missing a new camera, fingerprint reader, 64bit processor, M7 chip, metal body, etc...

Think about it.

:rolleyes:
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Do you have the faintest clue as to what Apple's margins are on anything?

As far as parts and assembly costs, the 5s and the 5c don't look substantially different to me.


There isn't enough information there to deduce Apple's margins on anything since we don't know what the end retailers/service providers pay Apple for each unit. And we don't know what all the various other items are that add to the cost of each unit beyond the parts and assembly (or what those items cost). Based on the information above, I am inclined to think that the 5s has generally higher margins, particularly the models that have 32gig and 64gigs of storage.

It could be that you have that information handy. Or it could be that you enjoy talking out your rear spouting on and on about things that you have no clue about.

My guess would be the latter.
 
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QCassidy352 said:
I upgraded my iPhone 5 immediately but have not and probably will not upgrade my iPad 2. iOS 7 is not so great on older hardware or on iPads generally. Definitely seems like it was designed with the iPhone 5/5c/5s in mind.
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iOS 7 runs great on my iPhone 5, on my iPad 3, and on my sister's iPad 2. Perhaps something else is causing problems?
 
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