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I just do not see with such a large company how they can not have a larger test group to make sure things like this does not happen, I work in software and if we ever pushed out an update without a thorough test and it did some funky things to our customers, we would be without that customer. Apple needs to get a larger test group together and start a larger area of testing before pushing out new updates and especially new versions of software?
 
Back pocket, front pocket, force will be applied to the phone either way. Tighter jeans, big piece of metal and glass, seems...kinda obvious. The bigger the piece of metal the more force will be applied. I traded pocketability for screen size, I knew that going in, kinda thought others would have come to the same conclusion.
People just somehow keep on missing the obviousness of this thread being about an iOS update and having nothing to do with iPhone construction.
 
So in one post you're ignoring others' opinions on another company (lets call them company B), and in the second post you're saying that you're not going to switch unless your experience with company B becomes better than A. That's the same company B that you just said you were never going to try?

Well, if I limit myself to only company A, and ignore every other company, of course company A is going to be the best - it's the only one I'll even acknowledge!

I use Windows products on a daily basis at work, and I own an Android tablet. Hence me saying that someone else's experiences are irrelevant to my own personal decisions and also saying that I have yet to be impressed enough by alternative companies to consider switching. I don't know why you took two comments on the internet to make your decision that the person clearly has never tried or used an alternate product, ever.
 
Google is your friend, here is just two links that show how blown out of proportion this is:

http://www.redmondpie.com/the-samsung-galaxy-s4-bend-test-on-video-spoiler-it-bends-and-cracks/

http://www.cultofmac.com/297404/get-bent-shocking-history-bent-smartphones/

Shocking, media hypes something up to be far greater than it should be. Suggestion to all plus owners, don't put a 5.5 inch phone in your pants and sit down, might hurt the phone, will definitely hurt you (too big for that).

You should look at those videos closely.

In the S4 example, the display breaks before the frame bends. In the case of the iPhone, the frame bends and long before any visible damage occurs on the display.

And the person puts more pressure (visibly) on the S4 than the amount of pressure he uses to bend the iPhone. To be fair, the better way to perform this test is to standardize the way the pressure is applied and to measure how much pressure is applied.

Regardless, it is asinine to suggest to people that they can no longer keep their cell phones in their pockets. I have an iPhone 5s in my pocket right now. Sitting down. Been keeping it in my pocket since I got it October. I had a 4S. I kept that in my pocket. I had a 3GS and an iPhone classic. All kept in my pocket. My co-workers who have Samsung phones keep theirs wherever they need. In their pockets if necessary.

Apple made a design choice - they made the phone thin at the expense of battery life and robustness. You guys can be enthusiastic in defending Apple's poor design choice. But realize, you are acting against your best interest. I for one want to stay with iPhones, but I don't want this stupid notion that I can't keep the phone in my pocket or that OS updates will be a flawed right out of the gate or the camera white balance algorithm will be crappy out of the box.
 
For those who need to get the ispw file, I am hosting all the iPhone models for iOS 8 at https://copy.com/1GOtP6Vz0DRL To just get you're link for either Apple's Server or from my File hosting, The full file name below is for Apple's servers and my hosting is under 'Alternate Link'

For those who need to delete the update from your device: Go to Settings -> General -> Usage -> Manage Storage from there click the update and you can delete it in the window that pops up.

For Those who need to roll-back to iOS 8.0, you can follow the instructions below, Option 1 is Apple's method to do it, Option 2 is doing a Restore and Option 3 is a total wipe of the device. Here’s an important note (which Windows users should pay particular attention to; also, this is something that only applies if the user chooses to look for the desired IPSW file on the Internet). Your browser may change the IPSW file into a .zip file. For example, Microsoft’s Internet Explorer does this, if used to download the firmware bundle. This doesn’t mean it’s unusable. Instead of wasting time switching web browsers, just rename the file to end in “.ipsw” and iTunes will accept it.

Option 1: (Apple's way):
Follow these steps to reinstall iOS 8.0.

1. Make sure that you're using the latest version of iTunes.

2. Connect your iPhone to iTunes.

3. Back up your iPhone in iTunes on your Mac or PC. iCloud backups won't restore to earlier versions, including iOS 8.0.

4. Download the file below that corresponds to your device:

iPhone 4s Model Number(s): A1387 ; A1431
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone4,1_8.0_12A365_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

iPhone 5 Model Number: A1428
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone5,1_8.0_12A365_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

iPhone 5 Model Number(s): A1429 ; A1442
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone5,2_8.0_12A365_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

iPhone 5c Model Number(s): A1456 ; A1532
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone5,3_8.0_12A365_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

iPhone 5c Model Number(s): A1507 ; A1516 ; A1526 ; A1529
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone5,4_8.0_12A365_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

iPhone 5s Model Number(s): A1433 ; A1533
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone6,1_8.0_12A365_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

iPhone 5s Model Number(s): A1457 ; A1518 ; A1528 ; A1530
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone6,2_8.0_12A365_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

iPhone 6 Plus Model Number(s): A1522 ; A1524
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone7,1_8.0_12A366_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

iPhone 6 Model Number(s): A1549 ; A1586
iOS firmware file needed: iPhone7,2_8.0_12A365_Restore.ipsw Alternate Link

FOLDER LINK: https://copy.com/1GOtP6Vz0DRL This is the main folder with all these files above hosted, and it appears from what some are saying Apple's servers are slow again, if you want to use the alternate link.

5. Select the file you just downloaded by doing one of these in iTunes:
- Mac: Press the Option key and click Check for Update.
- Windows: Press the Shift key and click Check for Update.

6. Press Update to install iOS 8 on your iPhone.

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Option 2:

For Restore:
1. Based on the model number of your iPhone, you will be able to identify which iOS firmware file you need to download. You can find model number on the iPhone’s back cover. You can find it above for your phone with my alternate download link.

2. Plug your device into your computer

3. Press in iTunes (Mac: Option/Alt) (Windows: Shift) when pressing restore and locate where you saved the IPSW file and select that for the update. Model list for the iPhones are below with my hosting link (copy.com) and Apple's official servers to know which one you need.

4. Be patient and wait for the installation process to be completed by iTunes

5. Once the restore is completed you can select your backup or treat the device as a new device.

For Restore and if the Device times out:
If your device times out during the restore sync after the software is reloaded back on, unplug the device via USB and re-plug it back in. It should then continue to sync again.

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Option 3:

For DFU and restore (Total wipe):

1. Based on the model number of your iPhone, you will be able to identify which iOS firmware file you need to download. You can find model number on the iPhone’s back cover. You can find it above for your phone with my alternate download link.

2. Plug your device into your computer

3. Turn off the device by holding the Sleep/Wake or Power button and swiping it off

4. Hold the power button for 3 seconds

5. Begin holding the Home button without releasing the Sleep/Power button for 10 seconds

6. Release the power button and continue holding the home button until you get a popup from iTunes that your device is recognized as being in recovery mode.

7. Now hold down the (Mac Option/Alt) (Windows: Shift) Key and click on the Restore button. In the navigation sheet that appears locate the ipsw file you just downloaded and click Choose. Again, this will wipe out all the data on it so be sure to have a backup.

8. Be patient and wait for the installation process to be completed by iTunes.

9. Once the restore is completed you can select your backup or treat the device as a new device.

For Restore and if the Device times out:
If your device times out during the restore sync after the software is reloaded back on, unplug the device via USB and re-plug it back in. It should then continue to sync again.

Thanks but I just get the following using your links:

You’ve found a page that doesn’t exist!
But don’t fret... here’s a page that does.
 
Damn! Waited all day to download iPhone7,2_8.0_12A365_Restore for my iPhone 6 and it iTunes says "The iPhone 6 could not be updated because the firmware is not compatible"

:mad::mad: :mad:
 
I’m still trying to figure out what a normal non-techie person would do in this situation if they updated via OTA. Even your typical Android user would not know what to do let alone iOS users if they lose cell service. I never had issues with my non-techie wife accepting updates until today. Nothing good can come out of this. This is worst then those iCloud leaks. Losing cell service is pretty critical.


Not quite sure what you mean by "Your typical Android user." Do you mean teens who download apps to configure their phones and think that they are tech-savvy because they know how to operate those apps and which buttons to tap? The same Anroid users that believe they programmed those apps that anyone with half a brain could operate? Those Android users?
 
Ooops, missed this notification, sorry, late reply. I was not meaning to be asinine at all, but perhaps should explain more fully why I would not put a larger phone in my pocket, especially when sitting. My first "smartphone" was a 5.3 inch phone (gNote 1), which I very quickly realized that even though I have a 6 foot frame, could not be in my pocket while sitting, it was simply too uncomfortable with the size of the phone, my 6+ has not changed that view. The second phone I had after that was a 4.7 inch phone (Nokia Lumia 920), and that phone was more comfortable in my pocket while sitting, but I still removed it for extended periods regardless (working, driving, etc). Third was a 5, than a 5s, both obviously sat nicely in the pocket, though my twelvesouth bookbook case made them a bit bulkier.

Point is, I've had a great deal of experience with different sizes, and the one that is a absolute no go for pocketability is a phablet, but I knew that was a tradeoff going in. Standing it can still go in the pocket, but there is definitely an ouch moment if you forget :D



You should look at those videos closely.

In the S4 example, the display breaks before the frame bends. In the case of the iPhone, the frame bends and long before any visible damage occurs on the display.

And the person puts more pressure (visibly) on the S4 than the amount of pressure he uses to bend the iPhone. To be fair, the better way to perform this test is to standardize the way the pressure is applied and to measure how much pressure is applied.

Regardless, it is asinine to suggest to people that they can no longer keep their cell phones in their pockets. I have an iPhone 5s in my pocket right now. Sitting down. Been keeping it in my pocket since I got it October. I had a 4S. I kept that in my pocket. I had a 3GS and an iPhone classic. All kept in my pocket. My co-workers who have Samsung phones keep theirs wherever they need. In their pockets if necessary.

Apple made a design choice - they made the phone thin at the expense of battery life and robustness. You guys can be enthusiastic in defending Apple's poor design choice. But realize, you are acting against your best interest. I for one want to stay with iPhones, but I don't want this stupid notion that I can't keep the phone in my pocket or that OS updates will be a flawed right out of the gate or the camera white balance algorithm will be crappy out of the box.
 
Hi all,
I am having the same problem inspite of upgrading to ios 8.2
I have a tmobile sim card. any suggestions?
 
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