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Why isn't Apple making Apple Pay in Australia a priority!? We have more nfc enabled terminals than most countries and we also receive updated iPhone models the same day as the US!

i think the hard part is dealing with the banks. buying nfc terminals its easy
 
so if you hear a song on BEATS that you like you go and buy it right? so I stand by my original comment, your paying for them to advertise to you. Where you choose to buy the song is irrelevant as most shop around for the cheapest place to buy.

I also don't think I am being childish asking you to get your parents to explain what I wrote to you. The reason is they are maybe of an age to understand what I'm saying because they come from a different time.

And calling an inconsiderate fool for not being a ****ing mindreader shows your immaturity.

Hang on while I tune my mindreading device in to know if you are married or not...hmmm getting a signal now...3, 2,...


If you hear a song on Beats, you're not required to buy it. People that subscribe to beats do so for access to music, not buy it outright. In fact, I know a lot of people that subscribe to things like Beats, Spotify and that, they've not bought any actual songs for 4 years. So you're just assuming that people have to buy a song they like.

You were being childish, trying to make your point seem valid by demeaning me with negative insults. You got called on it and now you're trying to squirm out of it. Which you further prove in your last post. Any sensible person makes their point without making baseless immature insults.
 
Can anyone familiar with the acquisition explain what Apple can and cannot do? Personally I imagine Apple completely reworking Beats into iTunes and more or less mimicking Spotify/Google Play while almost entirely dropping the Beats name. I mean for most people already in the iOS system, I would think the iTunes brand carries a lot more weight than Beats. The only real difference I see between what Apple is likely trying to do vs. Spotify is that I would assume you could still purchase a song on iTunes if you liked it enough. No expert here, just what's in my head....

free spotify its ok.. ill wait for apple music service, i would also like to have the ability to purchase songs if i want.
I Just hope they can make it internacional like spotify, doesnt seems hard since they already sell app pretty much everywhere in the world.:)
 
If you hear a song on Beats, you're not required to buy it. People that subscribe to beats do so for access to music, not buy it outright. In fact, I know a lot of people that subscribe to things like Beats, Spotify and that, they've not bought any actual songs for 4 years. So you're just assuming that people have to buy a song they like.

You were being childish, trying to make your point seem valid by demeaning me with negative insults. You got called on it and now you're trying to squirm out of it. Which you further prove in your last post. Any sensible person makes their point without making baseless immature insults.

Really am shouting into the wind here. Your just proving you haven't understood a word I've said to you. Sleep on it ot show some one else maybe older and see if they can explain it to you. I'm done with trying.
 
You don't understand what I wrote. Think about it this way. Your favourite clothes shop charges you to enter. You can try on any of the clothes in the shop. If you see anything you like you buy them.

Understand now?

Your paying for them to advertise to you.

Can I take the close with me without buying?

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so if you hear a song on BEATS that you like you go and buy it right?

No, why should I?

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Really am shouting into the wind here. Your just proving you haven't understood a word I've said to you.

You don't seem to understand music streaming services.
 
Really am shouting into the wind here. Your just proving you haven't understood a word I've said to you. Sleep on it ot show some one else maybe older and see if they can explain it to you. I'm done with trying.


No, you're the one not understanding. You're just wrong. That's why me, flaw609 and now JLL all pointed it out to you.....

You keep insisting I'm a child, when I'm not, as I have said. How old are you then? Since you keep banging on about age.
 
No, you're the one not understanding. You're just wrong. That's why me, flaw609 and now JLL all pointed it out to you.....

You keep insisting I'm a child, when I'm not, as I have said. How old are you then? Since you keep banging on about age.

Ive not once insisted you are a child. Not once. See much of the problem is your misunderstanding. My age? I'm older than you, so what?
 
iOS 8.4 in Development With Possible Support for New Music Service

Ive not once insisted you are a child. Not once. See much of the problem is your misunderstanding. My age? I'm older than you, so what?


Not in specific words, but it was obvious from the choice of words and your tone. Your insults are poorly veiled. I asked your age, since you're the one bringing age into it. Age does not equal wisdom, understanding, logic or common sense. Which you're proving for me. Thanks.

Actually, you did call one of us a kid, not me, but a person posting against you like me. This enlightens the fact that you're also considering me a kid, since this shows your frame of mid.

You misunderstand. Your paying for them to advertise music to you. When you find something you like you buy it. Kids today are dumb.
 
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Not in specific words, but it was obvious from the choice of words and your tone. Your insults are poorly veiled. I asked your age, since you're the one bringing age into it. Age does not equal wisdom, understanding, logic or common sense. Which you're proving for me. Thanks.

No it wasn't obvious. How is saying to ask someone older me insisting you are a child? Your lack of understanding is not me calling you a child. Ive tried my best to help you understand what I'm saying but its failed over and over again so now I'm adding you to my ignore list. Ive tried, enough is enough.
 
No it wasn't obvious. How is saying to ask someone older me insisting you are a child? Your lack of understanding is not me calling you a child. Ive tried my best to help you understand what I'm saying but its failed over and over again so now I'm adding you to my ignore list. Ive tried, enough is enough.


You originally said:
Baked into ios and OS X and for a lower fee?



I better be able to delete it as I'm not paying to be advertised to.


That post is entirely flawed. From there you've gone on a tangent of incorrect statements. You've proved you're the one that's not understanding. That's why you've had 3 of us challenge you. Your only comeback is basically trying to insult us by veiled attacks on our intelligence.
 
Why do we have to buy it? Do we not have free will? Your logic is laughable.

ok so you don't like to buy music you like. A lot of us do. Anyway I didn't write you have to buy a song if you like it. I wrote that some do. Your interpreting it to fit your agenda rather than trying to understand what I'm saying. Fair enough its your choice.
 
Considering Snow leopard took 22 months to get right and previous and following releases were worse, not sure why you think it was better then. Google a bit and inform yourself.
You seem to be assuming that everyone's experience with Snow Leopard started with the initial release.

Surely you can't deny that people came in toward the end of that 22 month window would have a different perspective on Snow Leopard. No revisionism or rose-colored glasses needed.
 
ok so you don't like to buy music you like. A lot of us do. Anyway I didn't write you have to buy a song if you like it. I wrote that some do. Your interpreting it to fit your agenda rather than trying to understand what I'm saying. Fair enough its your choice.

Oh I understand what you're saying, but you're wrong. You're interpreting it wrongly. You are stating that you're having to pay for streaming, then pay for songs you like on top. That's flat out wrong. Streaming is a choice. So is buying songs separately.

Take Spotify. You pay to stream any songs you want. You like one, you don't have to buy it, you can listen to it again whenever you want. Only logical reason to buy a song separately is if you stopped paying for streaming.

People either buy songs or stream. Anyone that streams and buys is in the minority, the exception to the rule. You outrightly said you like a song you buy it. 4 people have proven you wrong so far. No one has backed you. Surely that tells you that your reasoning is lacking? Or are you going to start trying to insult me pseudo comments as well?
 
ok so you don't like to buy music you like. A lot of us do. Anyway I didn't write you have to buy a song if you like it. I wrote that some do. Your interpreting it to fit your agenda rather than trying to understand what I'm saying. Fair enough its your choice.


I seriously don't think you understand how music subscription services work. The intent is paying s monthly fee to be able to listen to any song you want at anytime, anywhere, and number of times you want, without having to buy the song to own it. Most of these services even allow you to download the songs to your devices so you don't even have to stream them. As long as you pay the monthly fee, they are yours to keep and play or stream whenever however and however many times you want. If you were speaking of a radio stream service like iTunes Radio or pandora you would be correct as you have no control over what songs you get to listen to, you can't download them on to your devices, and you can't play any song you choose at anytime at any place. THAT would be using the music as an advertisement to get you to buy said song.
 
So what is the purpose of iOS 8.3 then? Seems like a lot of point releases between now and WWDC.

8.2 isn't out yet and 8.3 and 8.4 and 9.0 are in the works already.

8.3 would seem to be admitting that 8.2 is being rushed out the door before it's completely ready. Essentially, they know already that 8.2 has Left much work undone.

8.4 could be a feature addition timed with new device releases.

9 of course will be the annual let's break everything and start over.
 
8.2 isn't out yet and 8.3 and 8.4 and 9.0 are in the works already.

8.3 would seem to be admitting that 8.2 is being rushed out the door before it's completely ready. Essentially, they know already that 8.2 has Left much work undone.

8.4 could be a feature addition timed with new device releases.

9 of course will be the annual let's break everything and start over.

8.2 is to enable Apple Watch compatibility.

8.3 enables the new Photo app from beta

8.4 introduces new Beats Music integration

Knowledge is power. Some folks prefer the negative Nancy approach because they feel it enhances lives. :rolleyes:
 
How is it a mess? They are adding modular features with each of those releases and they are at different stage of testing/devellopment. You prefer they sit on their arse like before IOS 7 for 4 years.

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Each updates add a new service, and you can refuse the update now. So, not sure why you'd get tired of it. There is no regression in performance (more like improvements) and the updates don't really take a long time to do. Start time in the late evening and you get the phone back before bedtime.

Android leaves massive security holes and bugs for months on end, often because your not getting ANY updates when those holes exist. You really think that's better?

Apple's advantage is tight integration of hardware / OS / services, that's why you get the overall updates. They need to do deep changes to add the new services. Android because its more decoupled form the hardware can afford to deliver more high level updates; I don't really see that as much of an advantage since it often means their services don't work as well.

It's a buggy piece of **** ... THAT'S why it's a mess.

.1 updates that bricked cell service and had to be pulled, bugs reported by developers in iOS 8.0 which STILL exist to this day (black and white Spotlight, etc). I'd love them to not sit on their arses, but rather than focus on getting one thing right, they're stretching themselves across too many things and it's hitting quality. Having three different versions of iOS 8 in various stages of beta and development is ridiculous.

iOS 8 is a bold feature release, the API's are fantastic for developers and opening up the OS. In terms of performance, even on the very latest devices, it's a turd in places.

If iOS 9 is indeed the "Snow Leopard" version of iOS that it's meant to be then we might actually get the OS that iOS 8 should have been.
 
8.2 is to enable Apple Watch compatibility.

8.3 enables the new Photo app from beta

8.4 introduces new Beats Music integration

Knowledge is power. Some folks prefer the negative Nancy approach because they feel it enhances lives. :rolleyes:

Wouldn’t it be smarter for Apple just to decouple these apps and make them available as standalone apps in the app store? I have zero interest in Beats, Carplay or Apple watch (include Health Center, Apple maps and their email client on that list). Why should I suffer with the evitable bug fix for these apps if I don’t use them? And don’t these apps cause more bloat for the OS?
I have no need to use these features. Why should end users be punished for things we won’t use? Google started this practice a few years ago and Apple should follow suit.
 
Wouldn’t it be smarter for Apple just to decouple these apps and make them available as standalone apps in the app store? I have zero interest in Beats, Carplay or Apple watch (include Health Center, Apple maps and their email client on that list). Why should I suffer with the evitable bug fix for these apps if I don’t use them? And don’t these apps cause more bloat for the OS?

I have no need to use these features. Why should end users be punished for things we won’t use? Google started this practice a few years ago and Apple should follow suit.


A lot of the apps you name are not separate apps for the simple reason that they cannot work the same if they're not as integrated. Beats will probably just be merged with Music, which isn't going to be much different to having iTunes Radio on it.

Why should the end users be punished with seperate apps with less function than they had, simply because you don't like it or have no need?
 
Wouldn’t it be smarter for Apple just to decouple these apps and make them available as standalone apps in the app store? I have zero interest in Beats, Carplay or Apple watch (include Health Center, Apple maps and their email client on that list). Why should I suffer with the evitable bug fix for these apps if I don’t use them? And don’t these apps cause more bloat for the OS?
I have no need to use these features. Why should end users be punished for things we won’t use? Google started this practice a few years ago and Apple should follow suit.

How are you being punished when it will also include additional bug fixes and possibly new features? If you don't want it, don't update! Why should every other user need to focus on finding all these new apps to download because one particular user whom hasn't develop an OS before feels he knows better than the brain trust at Apple?
 
How are you being punished when it will also include additional bug fixes and possibly new features? If you don't want it, don't update! Why should every other user need to focus on finding all these new apps to download because one particular user whom hasn't develop an OS before feels he knows better than the brain trust at Apple?

Because it would limit all the 8.x updates. And it would be quicker to deploy the update via app store vs the OS. Plus I don’t want a bloated OS. It’s no different what Samsung does with stock Google. Motorola learned to decouple their core apps and there has been no complaints with this practice.
 
Because it would limit all the 8.x updates. And it would be quicker to deploy the update via app store vs the OS. Plus I don’t want a bloated OS. It’s no different what Samsung does with stock Google. Motorola learned to decouple their core apps and there has been no complaints with this practice.

You are the only one complaining about updates here. Get free bug fixes, security updates, and features is never a bad thing.
 
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