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iOS 8.4 in Development With Possible Support for New Music Service
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If you hear a song on Beats, you're not required to buy it. People that subscribe to beats do so for access to music, not buy it outright. In fact, I know a lot of people that subscribe to things like Beats, Spotify and that, they've not bought any actual songs for 4 years. So you're just assuming that people have to buy a song they like.
You were being childish, trying to make your point seem valid by demeaning me with negative insults. You got called on it and now you're trying to squirm out of it. Which you further prove in your last post. Any sensible person makes their point without making baseless immature insults.
chitoac
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free spotify its ok.. ill wait for apple music service, i would also like to have the ability to purchase songs if i want.
I Just hope they can make it internacional like spotify, doesnt seems hard since they already sell app pretty much everywhere in the world.🙂
Really am shouting into the wind here. Your just proving you haven't understood a word I've said to you. Sleep on it ot show some one else maybe older and see if they can explain it to you. I'm done with trying.
Can I take the close with me without buying?
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No, why should I?
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You don't seem to understand music streaming services.
No, you're the one not understanding. You're just wrong. That's why me, flaw609 and now JLL all pointed it out to you.....
You keep insisting I'm a child, when I'm not, as I have said. How old are you then? Since you keep banging on about age.
Ive not once insisted you are a child. Not once. See much of the problem is your misunderstanding. My age? I'm older than you, so what?
iOS 8.4 in Development With Possible Support for New Music Service
Not in specific words, but it was obvious from the choice of words and your tone. Your insults are poorly veiled. I asked your age, since you're the one bringing age into it. Age does not equal wisdom, understanding, logic or common sense. Which you're proving for me. Thanks.
Actually, you did call one of us a kid, not me, but a person posting against you like me. This enlightens the fact that you're also considering me a kid, since this shows your frame of mid.
Not in specific words, but it was obvious from the choice of words and your tone. Your insults are poorly veiled. I asked your age, since you're the one bringing age into it. Age does not equal wisdom, understanding, logic or common sense. Which you're proving for me. Thanks.
Actually, you did call one of us a kid, not me, but a person posting against you like me. This enlightens the fact that you're also considering me a kid, since this shows your frame of mid.
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No it wasn't obvious. How is saying to ask someone older me insisting you are a child? Your lack of understanding is not me calling you a child. Ive tried my best to help you understand what I'm saying but its failed over and over again so now I'm adding you to my ignore list. Ive tried, enough is enough.
You originally said:
That post is entirely flawed. From there you've gone on a tangent of incorrect statements. You've proved you're the one that's not understanding. That's why you've had 3 of us challenge you. Your only comeback is basically trying to insult us by veiled attacks on our intelligence.
ok so you don't like to buy music you like. A lot of us do. Anyway I didn't write you have to buy a song if you like it. I wrote that some do. Your interpreting it to fit your agenda rather than trying to understand what I'm saying. Fair enough its your choice.
sracer
macrumors G4
You seem to be assuming that everyone's experience with Snow Leopard started with the initial release.
Surely you can't deny that people came in toward the end of that 22 month window would have a different perspective on Snow Leopard. No revisionism or rose-colored glasses needed.
Oh I understand what you're saying, but you're wrong. You're interpreting it wrongly. You are stating that you're having to pay for streaming, then pay for songs you like on top. That's flat out wrong. Streaming is a choice. So is buying songs separately.
Take Spotify. You pay to stream any songs you want. You like one, you don't have to buy it, you can listen to it again whenever you want. Only logical reason to buy a song separately is if you stopped paying for streaming.
People either buy songs or stream. Anyone that streams and buys is in the minority, the exception to the rule. You outrightly said you like a song you buy it. 4 people have proven you wrong so far. No one has backed you. Surely that tells you that your reasoning is lacking? Or are you going to start trying to insult me pseudo comments as well?
I seriously don't think you understand how music subscription services work. The intent is paying s monthly fee to be able to listen to any song you want at anytime, anywhere, and number of times you want, without having to buy the song to own it. Most of these services even allow you to download the songs to your devices so you don't even have to stream them. As long as you pay the monthly fee, they are yours to keep and play or stream whenever however and however many times you want. If you were speaking of a radio stream service like iTunes Radio or pandora you would be correct as you have no control over what songs you get to listen to, you can't download them on to your devices, and you can't play any song you choose at anytime at any place. THAT would be using the music as an advertisement to get you to buy said song.
flyinmac
macrumors 68040
8.2 isn't out yet and 8.3 and 8.4 and 9.0 are in the works already.
8.3 would seem to be admitting that 8.2 is being rushed out the door before it's completely ready. Essentially, they know already that 8.2 has Left much work undone.
8.4 could be a feature addition timed with new device releases.
9 of course will be the annual let's break everything and start over.
Black Magic
macrumors 68030
8.2 is to enable Apple Watch compatibility.
8.3 enables the new Photo app from beta
8.4 introduces new Beats Music integration
Knowledge is power. Some folks prefer the negative Nancy approach because they feel it enhances lives. 🙄
It's a buggy piece of **** ... THAT'S why it's a mess.
.1 updates that bricked cell service and had to be pulled, bugs reported by developers in iOS 8.0 which STILL exist to this day (black and white Spotlight, etc). I'd love them to not sit on their arses, but rather than focus on getting one thing right, they're stretching themselves across too many things and it's hitting quality. Having three different versions of iOS 8 in various stages of beta and development is ridiculous.
iOS 8 is a bold feature release, the API's are fantastic for developers and opening up the OS. In terms of performance, even on the very latest devices, it's a turd in places.
If iOS 9 is indeed the "Snow Leopard" version of iOS that it's meant to be then we might actually get the OS that iOS 8 should have been.
Wouldnt it be smarter for Apple just to decouple these apps and make them available as standalone apps in the app store? I have zero interest in Beats, Carplay or Apple watch (include Health Center, Apple maps and their email client on that list). Why should I suffer with the evitable bug fix for these apps if I dont use them? And dont these apps cause more bloat for the OS?
I have no need to use these features. Why should end users be punished for things we wont use? Google started this practice a few years ago and Apple should follow suit.
A lot of the apps you name are not separate apps for the simple reason that they cannot work the same if they're not as integrated. Beats will probably just be merged with Music, which isn't going to be much different to having iTunes Radio on it.
Why should the end users be punished with seperate apps with less function than they had, simply because you don't like it or have no need?
Black Magic
macrumors 68030
How are you being punished when it will also include additional bug fixes and possibly new features? If you don't want it, don't update! Why should every other user need to focus on finding all these new apps to download because one particular user whom hasn't develop an OS before feels he knows better than the brain trust at Apple?
Because it would limit all the 8.x updates. And it would be quicker to deploy the update via app store vs the OS. Plus I dont want a bloated OS. Its no different what Samsung does with stock Google. Motorola learned to decouple their core apps and there has been no complaints with this practice.
Black Magic
macrumors 68030
You are the only one complaining about updates here. Get free bug fixes, security updates, and features is never a bad thing.