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iOS 8 Adoption Stagnates Just Two and a Half Weeks After Launch

shuka.margolin said:
Users of iPhone 4 ad 4s have been warned to not upgrade to iOS 8 because it will slow their devices. It was also recommended that they at least wait for version 8.1 (lie was the case when upgrading to 7)

Perhaps this is the reason for the slow rate of adoption - there are still many many users with 4 and 4s out there.
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Well, they clearly weren't warned enough. My less-than-tech-savvy cousin has an 8GB iPhone 4 and she wanted to know why her whole phones crashed every time she pulled down notification centre. I spent about 5 minutes trying to explain to her that her phone was just too old now and the hardware wasn't capable of basic operations in iOS anymore. She just kept saying, "No but I've barely had it a year...it's not that old."

iPhone 4 users shouldn't have even updated to iOS 7, in my opinion.
 
1st thing, 47% is high for a new OS. Last I heard 20% were still using Windows XP from 10 years ago!

2nd the iOS 8 does not bring much reason to upgrade. I updated and I hardly notice any difference except for the keyboard suggestions.

Also I understand Apple can not bring a revolutionary iOS each year so that is ok too. I was hoping for GUI improvements though . Thing blue-line icons are not too good for a touch screen device and hard for the eye to identify quickly
 
springsup said:
Don't you think some of those dismissals a little unfair? The iMac hasn't really been updated yet - there are strong rumours of retina iMacs coming in 9 days from today. Would a retina iMac be a show-stopping product? Yes, it would.

iOS8 is one of the biggest updates ever. Criticising is so easy, but iOS8 also brings the biggest things people have been asking for since the first iPhone. There are custom keyboards and notification centre widgets, actionable notifications, not to mention a quasi-filesystem (via iCloud Drive) with support for third-party document providers. You can finally open documents in other apps without every app getting its own copy. For business customers, that means seamless integration with sharepoint. Bugs happen - they emerge, they are fixed, new bugs are found, etc. Is iOS8 a show-stopping product? Yes, it is.

Yosemite is another big update. The UI changes aren't that enormous, historically speaking (OS X has had some really big ones, like when people on Tiger woke up to find Leopard). The best thing about it is that it draws the Mac and iOS even closer together - there's iCloud Drive, the new Photos app to replace iPhoto and Aperture, mostly the same widget and extension points on both systems, and of course Continuity/Handoff. Only with Apple can you send SMS messages from your laptop, desktop or iPad and receive calls on all of them. When you take that together with iCloud, Yosemite fits perfectly in to the role that the Mac now occupies. Is it a show-stopping product? Yes.

I don't know - to me, it seems like Apple has a pretty rocking product pipeline, and that's even before you get to the iWatch. Who on Earth can even come close to competing with them? Microsoft isn't even a contender - they just realised that Metro start screens are stupid for people at desktops. The big new feature for their next version of Windows is the return of the start menu. The only company who can really compare is Google, and Apple stacks up pretty well to them, too.
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Okay, coffee break is over now. Back to the Genius Bar. The line is getting pretty long.
 
jcw5002 said:
Most of my friends still haven't updated. Why? They have 16GB iPhones with not enough space! (I told them about iTunes update, but that's extra work.)

If Apple really wants to drive rapid OS adoption, they need to start w/ 32GB entry level iPhones.
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This seems to be more true as the iOS evolves (and grows significantly in size). A 16GB device with iOS 8 installed, leaves about ~11GB free. This leaves a very low chance for enough free space to make future iOS upgrades. Unless the only usage done is to make phone calls. But, then, why upgrade anyway ?
 
First time I've said this since my iPhone 4 but I really wish I held off on updating iOS. iOS 8 is horrendously buggy on the 5S. The constant wifi dropping/running sluggishly makes playing online games like Poker or Pool completely impossible.

Not sure if Apple's QA is getting poorer, or if the issues are simply more obvious with an increase in sales compared to yesteryear. Disappointing nonetheless :(
 
I still run with the philosophy that I've held since Windows 95..."I adopt early to help others..." :)
 
I would recommend everyone to refrain from upgrading to iOS 8. I used to use my iPad all the time, now I can't do that anymore as it keeps dropping wifi every few seconds. I tried to follow a few advices I could find but to no avail. I will now wait with upgrading my Mac to the next OS X as well as I can't ruin my workhorse.

I will now need to replace the iPad with one of Android tablets that were previously only used as test devices.
 
planktonamor said:
The fact the OS runs like crap on older devices combined with the fact they won't let you downgrade your OS screams of planned obsolescence. There is no excuse for them to kill the signing of an older OS. They'll throw out security and jailbreaking as reasons why they don't allow device downgrades, but that's nonsense. Jailbreaking is going to happen regardless and we can determine for ourselves whether it's better to have limited security holes vs a near inoperable device.

I love my Apple products, but I constantly feel like I am being forced into upgrading and having them kill off my older devices before they need to be. Heaven forbid you upgrade a device and you find it kills the battery and is no longer quick running.

In fairness, it's not just Apple. The cell companies do the same thing with Android devices. They will jam upgrades down to you even if you don't want them. Frustrating.

So I now have an iPhone 5 and an iPad 3 that both run slower and are now jerky moving between screens, they also have a significantly shorter battery life. I told my wife to hold off with her 4s...besides, she doens't have the space to upgrade if she wanted to.

On a non-personal side, I work at a school district with 10,000 iOS devices. I have nearly all devices sitting at 7.1.2, but now any new devices that have to be supervised will have to be at 8. So as a result there is no way to keep all devices at the same level. This is something I control in both Windows and OSX environments. I don't consider allowing iOS upgrades OTA due to major bugs in new releases. Last year I had the upgrades blocked on the network, and thank god. The supervision issues with iOS 7 were a train wreck with kids. The fact I cannot place any iOS I find best, most secure and most compatible with certain level of apps is very poor on Apple's part. iOS 8 has a bug that doesn't allow me to place a restriction on the device before it is enrolled (long story why). Again, a bug that is enough reason I wouldn't allow it on our devices given the choice.

Thanks for letting me vent :)
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update old devices: Planned obsolescence
Don't update old devices: Planned obsolescence

?????
 
I am under the impression that iPhone 4 can not be upgraded to iOS 8. My iPhone 4 shows no inclination towards wanting to upgrade, but as it does the job I want it to do, that isn't a problem.
 
MacBH928 said:
1st thing, 47% is high for a new OS. Last I heard 20% were still using Windows XP from 10 years ago!
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You honestly believe this figure?

47% of every single iOS device Apple have ever made is on iOS8 ?
 
I had a problem with syncing music to my phone from iTunes... I backed up my phone then restored it from backup which fixed it. Really liking predictive keyboard which has to be the most noticeable new feature for me.

Disappointed that Siri is still slow (the words appear 30 secs after I've said them, unlike the few seconds they appear on the Google app) and still doesn't hear me correctly (again, compared to the Google app).

My point being I guess I can see why people aren't too fussed.
 
I am wondering how many have to rollback to iOS7 because daily goto apps constantly crash. Based on my experience of the beta builds and now this, I have to say iOS 8 is the worst Apple ever did. I kind of wish Scott Forstall is still with the company.
 
I get anyone updating would have the same type of "I wish i didn't do it" posts, but I reckon iOS8 we probably see allot more...

That should tell u something. This is the first/only time i'm refusing the latest OS or either Mac (when publicly available) or iOS 8.

And, it feels good *not* to upgrade :)
 
Regarding people not knowing they can updates iOS from their computers; a few years ago there was a report that said that 40% of iPhones taken in to Genius Bars for troubleshooting had never been backed up to iTunes and I think that was before OTA updates. Some people just activate their phones and never sync them again. Added to that there are probably now millions of users who've only ever known OTA updates.

I've got a 4s on 6.1.6 and I've no intention updating it; I think that iOS version after the one released for their current iPhone is the usability limit for most iPhone owners.

I'd prefer it if Apple wasn't stuck on introducing all the major changes in its initial iOS release then adding in bug fixes and stability improvements later so users are left with a stable .1 version as the final OS version. A more stable initial release with extra features in .2 and .3 releases would seem preferable. My all-time favourite upgrade was 4.3, lots of extra features without lots of extra bugs.
 
iOS 8 the worst major OS update from my memory and that's speaking from the perspective of using an iPhone 6.
 
baryon said:
For the iPhone 4S, sticking with iOS 7 is the best option. Upgrading is also dangerous as you cannot downgrade.
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Yeah, and if you're on a phone from 2011 you'll be due a hardware upgrade anyway. Then you can enjoy iOS 8 on the latest hardware (or if money is an issue, a 5S/C)
 
Seems crazy to pronounce a post PC era then require the user to ditch half their stuff or find a PC to carry out the updates on.

At very least they could catalog all apps and itunes purchased content currently on a phone to see if removing that would free up sufficient room for the update.

If it does then just associate that list of 'purchased and currently installed' content with the phones serial number on the update server, automatically wipe that stuff from the phone as first phase of the update, carry out the update as usual and then restore all that back before the user is handed control of the phone again.

i.e. only ever bug the user about insufficient space if it reaches the stage that there's too much user data (as opposed to purchased content) clogging up the device.
 
Storage Issue

Most of my mates haven't upgraded, they either own the 16GB or the 32GB version but still didn't have enough storage space for the update.
Every time I asked them, they said they can't be bothered to do it. IOS 8.0.1 bug happened and they were like, we gonna stay off this thing until they launch new iPads and fix everything.
 
Thanks for reporting this.

I developed my app for iOS8 only, but it seems I have to add iOS7 support.
 
iOS is starting to bloat, so I think Apple should do a "Snow Leopard" of the iOS world - ie slimmed down and streamlined OS with minor changes.

Reduced size, less space needed to unpack and install and also better performance across the board which would breathe life back into some older devices and also decrease iOS fragmentation. Everybody wins.
 
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