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iOS 8 Adoption Stagnates Just Two and a Half Weeks After Launch

"If Apple really wants to drive rapid OS adoption, they need to start w/ 32GB entry level iPhones."

Providing the start price remains at the same level as the 16Gb does now. Some cannot afford to pay for the 32GB and will be driven down market to Samsung or LG.
 
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Have to agree with the earlier comments - everyone I know that has not upgraded simply doesn't haven't the storage space available on their device. Not just this, but they don't want the hassle of having to delete all that content and then download/restore it again.

The solution from Apple's perspective is to raise the base storage to 32GB, but they won't be doing this any time soon. By having a 8/16GB option, they're making a ridiculous profit from those who have the foresight to invest in more storage, and yet those who can't afford the higher options are stuck with silly amount of space.

I would have thought that the 5C should be limited to 16/32, and then then 5S and 6 start from 32.
 
Obviously with spacing issues people aren't upgrading, why they didn't go 32, 64, 128. For the iPhone 6 & 16 for the 5s beats me.

Working in a phone store I've had a lot of people including older customers who won't update because of the screw up wit 8.0.1. I haven't had any problems.
 
Completely different situations. Moving from one OS to another such as moving from XP to say Windows 8 brings a host of problems such as cost, compatibility and time.

Moving from Ios 7 to 8 should be a no brainer for most people.

MacBH928 said:
1st thing, 47% is high for a new OS. Last I heard 20% were still using Windows XP from 10 years ago!
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springsup said:
Don't you think some of those dismissals a little unfair? The iMac hasn't really been updated yet - there are strong rumours of retina iMacs coming in 9 days from today. Would a retina iMac be a show-stopping product? Yes, it would.

iOS8 is one of the biggest updates ever. Criticising is so easy, but iOS8 also brings the biggest things people have been asking for since the first iPhone. There are custom keyboards and notification centre widgets, actionable notifications, not to mention a quasi-filesystem (via iCloud Drive) with support for third-party document providers. You can finally open documents in other apps without every app getting its own copy. For business customers, that means seamless integration with sharepoint. Bugs happen - they emerge, they are fixed, new bugs are found, etc. Is iOS8 a show-stopping product? Yes, it is.

Yosemite is another big update. The UI changes aren't that enormous, historically speaking (OS X has had some really big ones, like when people on Tiger woke up to find Leopard). The best thing about it is that it draws the Mac and iOS even closer together - there's iCloud Drive, the new Photos app to replace iPhoto and Aperture, mostly the same widget and extension points on both systems, and of course Continuity/Handoff. Only with Apple can you send SMS messages from your laptop, desktop or iPad and receive calls on all of them. When you take that together with iCloud, Yosemite fits perfectly in to the role that the Mac now occupies. Is it a show-stopping product? Yes.

I don't know - to me, it seems like Apple has a pretty rocking product pipeline, and that's even before you get to the iWatch. Who on Earth can even come close to competing with them? Microsoft isn't even a contender - they just realised that Metro start screens are stupid for people at desktops. The big new feature for their next version of Windows is the return of the start menu. The only company who can really compare is Google, and Apple stacks up pretty well to them, too.
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A retina iMac would not be so good as I bet Apple would stay true to form and cripple it with an obsolete GPU which would barely be able to push the 4x more pixels. iOS and the iPhone did bring on things people wanted but they were implemented in a very non-Apple manner which makes me wonder if they've lost focus. Similarly, the iMac update was horrible, the MBP update was meh, the iPod Touch update was lame, Yosemite is hideously ugly, and I could go on. My primary problem with Apple is nothing they've done demonstrates they have a vision or any quality control whatsoever.
 
My guess is theres a lot of people who are happy with their iPhone 4 who can't upgrade to 8.
 
Too many errors in releases. For mission/ business/school work it is not acceptable. Wait for updates. Also look at apple tv upgrade. No radio stops after 10-12 minutes ever time
 
springsup said:
Would a retina iMac be a show-stopping product? Yes, it would.
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No, it wouldn't. Unless you do 4k video on a regular basis. Even then it isn't any more showstopping than any other desktop + 4k display combination out there. In fact, it is probably quite a bit more underwhelming than the majority of the combinations. It is likely a lot prettier than the rest, though.

springsup said:
Is iOS8 a show-stopping product? Yes, it is.
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Well, it certainly did stop a lot, with all the bugs and connectivity issues that it has had.

springsup said:
Yosemite is another big update.
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Can't comment on this, as I don't really have any interest in it and do not plan on upgrading my macs to it. Mavericks works fine for me, I don't want to risk messing things up and breaking applications.

springsup said:
I don't know - to me, it seems like Apple has a pretty rocking product pipeline, and that's even before you get to the iWatch. Who on Earth can even come close to competing with them? Microsoft isn't even a contender - they just realised that Metro start screens are stupid for people at desktops. The big new feature for their next version of Windows is the return of the start menu. The only company who can really compare is Google, and Apple stacks up pretty well to them, too.
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Apple has decent products for the year, nothing special. The biggest (pun intended) thing seems to be the new iPhones, but they seem plagued with quality issues, both in hardware and software.

As for competition, well, Microsoft certainly is one. Windows 10 will have orders of magnitude bigger impact in the market than OSX. Market share alone guarantees that. The Surface Pro 3 is the best productivity tablet on the market bar none. Their phone lineup is solid, and they beat Apple by default in a huge number of market segments. There's still something missing, although I can't really specify what it is. That something had me ditch my Lumia 1020 and order an iPhone 6+, though.

I can't see Google as a competitor, though. Apple is a hardware company, Google isn't.

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pheenix11 said:
If people never connect their phones to iTunes, how the hell do they get their music on their phone?
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Spotify.
 
Bad as IOS 8.0 and 8.01 are-crippling my 4S after installing, when IOS 8.02 came out I decided to install it anyway - it couldn't get any worse so nowt to lose. Now my 4S is more or less back to as it was IOS 7. So it's possible many have never bothered to uodate to the very latest revision and presuming their phones are knackered now. I say-ensure you're bang uo on to date with Eight.

Having said all that. I did promise myself to upgrade the 4S without question when the 6 came out. But after realising it's just a speeded up 4 S with bells on. I will wait til they sort out the 6 models bend-u-minium, the stick-out-cam, etc and go for the 6S.

You just get this feeling at the bakc of your mind that the 6 just isn't quite fully accomplished yet. That it's been rushed out. As has IOS 8 for that matter. And give em a few more months to sort and see th finished article next year.

So. My advice. Install IOS 8.02 over 8.0 and/or 8.02 and if you haven't bought the 6 models then hang on a wee bit longer til the refined versions are released in 2015. At least my 4S is usable again and I can cope with that. So it's not all doom and gloom .....yet.
 
I guess that's because people who want it have it, and people who don't want it don't have it. SCIENCE.

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AlexisV said:
The wife is sticking to 7 since they've trashed the photos app with 8.
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Good reason for it. Events are absolutely broke on iOS 8's photo app. They're not in order and some apps can't access events, only albums (never had that problem with iOS 7).
 
Updated my iP5s. No lag, but it is buggy like hell. Even buggier than having iPhone 5 with iOS 7.0.

Also updated my iPad mini (non retina) 32gb. And it's useless. I can't surf on multiple tabs, even having just one tab opened causes issues. When I click on iBooks it takes about 5 seconds to load. iOS8 ruined my iPad mini, and from now on, I'm not upgrading to any major iOS versions until I see opinions of other users.

Apple has really lost all credibility in my book.
 
I've been pretty trouble free with iOS 8 on my iPhone 5. The only thing I've noticed are a couple of slightly slower animations or loading times, like the favourites showing when launching Safari.

But if Apple were really confident in their new software they'd give you the option to downgrade for longer than 2 weeks. At least this was an improvement over the no-downgrade policy of previous years. It's the one thing that made me upgrade because I wanted the ability to downgrade if iOS 8 performed poorly on my 2 year-old device. I didn't see enough new features to warrant making the device I need to use for at least another year perform poorly.

I think adoption rates are struggling a bit because of this. My concerns turned out to be unfounded (though 4S users seem to have been hit harder) but I think former problems like the iOS 6 on iPhone 4 debacle have made people nervous about upgrading. No new feature is worth rendering your device a sluggish nightmare to use like the iPhone 4 became.
 
thekeyring said:
Yeah, and if you're on a phone from 2011 you'll be due a hardware upgrade anyway. Then you can enjoy iOS 8 on the latest hardware (or if money is an issue, a 5S/C)
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Not really, my 4S is fast and does everything I need, I really don't feel like I need a hardware upgrade. That is if I don't upgrade to iOS 8, which would force me to buy a new phone because it would permanently make my iPhone super laggy and slow. This "due for a hardware upgrade" thing is pushed by software designed to make you buy a new phone (or simply designed with no effort to allow you to keep your old but totally fine phone).
 
How could the problem with too large OTA updates be solved? Increasing the entry level storage would be a short term solution. Those who don't want to/don't know how to back up their stuff to a computer or other external storage will surely fill their phones regardless of the size of the internal storage. So, by increasing the entry level storage would just delay the problem.

Assuming that photos make up a large part of what occupies the internal storage, having a system where photos are automatically stored in the cloud, where you are always able to access them with your device would be a good way to let people delete old photos from the phone without much anxiety. Luckily, Apple is working on such a solution with Photos in iCloud.

Another solution, which is independent of what kind of media is stored on the phone, is to add a small storage to the hardware that is reserved for OS updates. An 8 Gig flash area which is not part of the "official" storage of the phone, and is only used to store OTA updates would remove the problem altogether. At least until the OTA updates are bigger than this reserved area.
 
I wonder what the cause is for the stagnation - I'm assuming the early issues that were uncovered with 8.0 and 8.01
 
Dougie83 said:
"If Apple really wants to drive rapid OS adoption, they need to start w/ 32GB entry level iPhones."

Providing the start price remains at the same level as the 16Gb does now. Some cannot afford to pay for the 32GB and will be driven down market to Samsung or LG.
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That is why having a slot to install your own memory would work wonders. Better for the consumer and Apple.
 
penajmz said:
iOS 8 has had a horrible reputation for sucking. I'm not surprised people have held back on updating their devices.

Not to mention that a lot of people with 16GB iPhones most of the time have to delete content to be able to update, which they just rather not.
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The space issue is extremely annoying. I had to delete some episodes of shows just to make space on my 32gb iPad air. This was the first time i ever had to delete something off my iPad for an update.
 
Even though I backup to the cloud, I stay active in iTunes to backup as well as it seems to me the OTA restores just present problem after problem in addition to the bugs within the updated iOS's.
 
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