If that is the case then Apple should restrict newer software to newer hardware. We shouldn't need to buy a new iPhone every single year just to maintain decent, at best, battery life. That's extremely wasteful. Even though being wasteful is of no cocern to Apple fans who will throw an iPhone 5 in the trash for a 5S. Just another corporation with planned obsolescence in mind.
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iOS 8 another battery drainer
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If that is the case then Apple should restrict newer software to newer hardware. We shouldn't need to buy a new iPhone every single year just to maintain decent, at best, battery life. That's extremely wasteful. Even though being wasteful is of no cocern to Apple fans who will throw an iPhone 5 in the trash for a 5S. Just another corporation with planned obsolescence in mind.
Then people will complain why they can't have the latest software, when their 1 year old hardware can obviously handle it. Apple tells you to update, but in the end is still a choice.
Of course they will complain. Apple fans complain about everything. Even other Apple fans, hah. Point is; it's a little ridiculous that with every major iOS update comes terrible battery life for the previous iPhone. But yes, in the end, it is the users choice whether or not to update.
I completely agree with this.
Apple SHOULD allow older devices to go back on firmware if wanted.
However it used to be that if you decided to stay on an old firmware, if there were any apps you paid for in the past that somehow got an update which required the new firmware you were completely locked out! (unless you updated and hence crippled your phone)
But now, even if an app has an update which requires newer firmware, Apple allows you to simply download the last app version that worked with your iOS version.
So in essence they allow you to install past versions of apps... yet they cut people off from ever install past versions of firmware?
And it's not like they don't have the power to let users go back to iOS 6 or whatnot, as they could easily keep signing past firmware on iTunes, it's that they carefully and deviously do everything they can to push users to the new OS (for planned obsolescence of older devices) without any regard of how it negatively affects customers previous devices they have purchased.
But, who are we really? Just a couple of nobodies who don't really make a dent in Apples wallet. Their planned obsolescence machine keeps out humming along churning out and destroying iPhones over time, forcing most customers to line their pockets. The best we can do is to be informed consumers and keep the OS on our phones that it came with. I'm sure it's tempting to look at the 'cool new features' of iOS 8, 9, etc... but in the end those firmwares are simply built for newer hardware and any new OS update we install will be more complex with more features that our older hardware can't handle as well, so why **** up your device?
I am at a loss to explain this, but my battery is back to near-new capacity under iOS 8.
The "Battery Doc" app says that at 99% charged, the battery is at 1386 mAh out of a max 1400 mAh. New out of box, capacity of the iPhone 5 battery is 1440 mAh. I have 294 cycles after 1.33 years.
The past few days I've noticed significantly better battery life than under 7.1.2, when I had 1200 mAh max on a good day.
The "Battery Doc" app says that at 99% charged, the battery is at 1386 mAh out of a max 1400 mAh. New out of box, capacity of the iPhone 5 battery is 1440 mAh. I have 294 cycles after 1.33 years.
The past few days I've noticed significantly better battery life than under 7.1.2, when I had 1200 mAh max on a good day.
First, you're probably using the phone more, checking out the features, etc. Second, you want to let the apps update, filesystem reindex, etc. Basically, chill out for a few days. Then, look under Settings -> general -. Usage and look at battery usage. See if any apps have push notifications on that a) didn't in iOS7 and b) that you don't need. Facebook, messaging apps etc all can cause the phone to drain more.
But mostly... chill. Let the updates happen, let your usage go back to normal. Then, a week or so from now, check things.
But mostly... chill. Let the updates happen, let your usage go back to normal. Then, a week or so from now, check things.
I'm sorry guys. I've waited the days. Checked the battery usage. It is worse by far. I have a new battery also. I have an iphone 5. I feel the 5 had battery issues. The phone has never been good even new. I would expect it to last 1 day. I charge mine 2 times usually. Very poor. Hope the 6 is better. I haven't seen much about it.
My battery life seems noticeable better on my iPad 3 and iPhone 5. Both a bit more sluggish, but nice battery life is at least one upside of iOS 8 on my devices.
My Dad and i both have the iPhone 5 and have the same issues. So do most people I know who have iPhone 5s.. Even from the beginning terrible battery life, and it hasn't been fixed with device replacements/restored/updates etc.
I can make a 15 minute call and lose 20%. I have tried killing various services with no result. My phone never got the specs apple advertises.
This is my input: I've had the iphone 3G S, 4, 4S, 5, 5C and will eventually get the 6. I've always tracked battery usage and this is what I've found.
Every iphone installment that ive owned has had 6-7 hours of usage. This is including my 5C with ios 8. Other than a few duds which I've had replaced, it's always been the same. Apple creates faster and more powerful iPhones with more battery killing features each year and has always maintained good battery life. Works for me!
I'm actually amazed I'm getting the same battery life with 8 as I did 7. I'm using every feature, (widgets, group messaging with tons of audio files, sharing our locations daily, auto update apps, current location for weather in Notification Center, and I'm sure others im forgetting. Still the same battery life.
Every iphone installment that ive owned has had 6-7 hours of usage. This is including my 5C with ios 8. Other than a few duds which I've had replaced, it's always been the same. Apple creates faster and more powerful iPhones with more battery killing features each year and has always maintained good battery life. Works for me!
I'm actually amazed I'm getting the same battery life with 8 as I did 7. I'm using every feature, (widgets, group messaging with tons of audio files, sharing our locations daily, auto update apps, current location for weather in Notification Center, and I'm sure others im forgetting. Still the same battery life.
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I haven't noticed any huge changes one way or another. My 5s has never had great battery life to begin with, so I'll still do the same steps to conserve the battery if I know I'll be away from a charger for an extended time.
With one of my games, the battery usage seems to have gone up, but that app has not yet been updated for iOS 8 and it was always a relatively unstable energy hog. For all the apps that have been updated for iOS 8, I haven't really seen any uptick in power usage. If anything, the power usage seem to have gone down while my phone is on standby. Overall, it's a tradeoff, but that's no different than with past iOS updates.
With one of my games, the battery usage seems to have gone up, but that app has not yet been updated for iOS 8 and it was always a relatively unstable energy hog. For all the apps that have been updated for iOS 8, I haven't really seen any uptick in power usage. If anything, the power usage seem to have gone down while my phone is on standby. Overall, it's a tradeoff, but that's no different than with past iOS updates.
Same here.
Apple says up to 10 hours browsing on wifi.
I got that all the time on my 5.
With OS8, it's now 7 hours. Just web surfing with a little video and a phone call or two.
Ridiculous.
I agree with you 100 percent! I find that the phone works best with the software it came with! Sure this isn't always the case, but in my experience, nothing can beat the first OS the phone has
So true. Every update they put an improved secret delay loop in there. The code looks at your phone, thinks "ah, it's that one" and adds the delay listed in its device database. The great thing about those loops is that they also drain the battery.
That's super interesting!. But what if the percentage it's calculated differently now?. A better test would be to time, just sitting there with screen on, until battery drains completely and it shuts off.
Nothing could possibly drain a phone battery that quickly without starting a fire. That must be a calibration issue.
Wasn't this kinda the same with iOS 7 and the 4S ?
Just thinking back, iOS 7 brought sluggish performance and subsequent worse battery on the 4S, which somehow got fixed with 7.1.. thats my stray observation anyway.
(I reckon thats how it always went down, make it perform best on the newest device, then subsequently improve it on the older ones..)
Just thinking back, iOS 7 brought sluggish performance and subsequent worse battery on the 4S, which somehow got fixed with 7.1.. thats my stray observation anyway.
(I reckon thats how it always went down, make it perform best on the newest device, then subsequently improve it on the older ones..)
Facebook is terrible for the battery. The main action I took was to remove the Facebook App. In addition to the battery drain it didn't work at all with the latest update. And some previous version sago the messages were removed and forcing you to use a separate App.
After removing it I created a bookmark to the website and I will not come back to the App.
Significant change.
The other main things I did was to disable Background App refresh, Location Services only to essential Apps I frequently, and also disable Handoff, I normally don't have any use for it or need. These things may work "better" with the new hardware out there.
Another big difference I noticed is that the accelerometers seem to be erratic and the Portrait and Landscape rotation is not working well, as the new iPhones have new sensors.
Hopefully in future updates they improve some of these but I seriously doubt
will invest anything more in running old HW with the new software even they are still selling them in different markets.
I find my battery life the same or even a bit better, do you guys have the "request location" option turn off ? that thing is a major battery drain.