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Oh dear, beta 2 is running horribly on my 5, crashes all the time, network drops out constantly. Would love to go back to 7 but the backup wont restore to it so stuck hoping b3 fixes a lot of stuff!
 
Thank god you are a developer and have this on your developer phone and not on your daily driver right?

Dear me, do we always have to have these comments every time someone complains that a Beta is buggy? Yep, some people use it on their main devices, some of those aren't even developers. They generally know the risk they're taking when they make that choice. But why can't they express their comments about the current Beta and hopes for the next without always drawing a snidey, predictable response?
 
Thank god you are a developer and have this on your developer phone and not on your daily driver right?

We're not all devs working for a company, and we don't always have $1000 to buy a second iPhone to develop with.

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About the thread, I hope it doesn't push back Xcode 6 Beta 3 and Yosemite DP3. Xcode's Swift still has a lot of broken functions, a lack of pragma mark comments, the impossibility to remove one constraint, universal designing problems, and does not yet point to the line causing an exception like Objective-C would do with Exception breakpoints.
 
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I'm a starving developer so my developer phone is my daily driver. Am I allowed under your rules?

Sure. As long as you don't come on this forum and complain about how buggy a dev build is...

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Dear me, do we always have to have these comments every time someone complains that a Beta is buggy? Yep, some people use it on their main devices, some of those aren't even developers. They generally know the risk they're taking when they make that choice. But why can't they express their comments about the current Beta and hopes for the next without always drawing a snidey, predictable response?

Because it smacks of whiney entitlement attitude.
 
I've moved back to 7.1.1 as well. I've been through many betas during my time as a dev and this is, by far, the worst experiences I have had even with early betas. I accept the issues as it's my main device and all that, but these betas seem to be exceptionally nasty ones with crashes and networking.
 
Being 100% realistic, since BGR is saying July 8, it's a safe bet that it will be ANY other day but July 8

No, not 100% safe bet by any means. It definitely won't be July 4, and unlikely to be any time that week or the following Monday (7th). But sure, any day after the 8th I'd take the field bet.
 
They lost me with the widgets in the notification window... seriously, no widgets on the Homepage?????????????????????? Wow, I thought they had smart people working there or something.
 
Could this mean they are finally gearing up for the public beta of Yosemite as well? I am assuming both iOS 8 Beta 3 and OSX 10.10 Beta 3 will be released the same time.
 
I hope that this rumour is false. I'm developing using some new frameworks but I only have my personal phone to do it on and beta 2 is horrendous. Odd quirk for me is that after the battery passes the 50% mark I need to hard reset with the power and home button to get it to recognise the charger :confused:
 
thats too bad. beta 2 fixed some things for me. made continuity and handoff way better. but it was also more unstable.
 
Because it smacks of whiney entitlement attitude.

If people were saying stuff like "I can't believe Apple are releasing crap like this" then I'd agree with you, but the majority of posts that seem to draw this type of response are just objective comments such as "I have to reset my phone every 2 hours" or "battery drain sucks with this beta"
 
If people were saying stuff like "I can't believe Apple are releasing crap like this" then I'd agree with you, but the majority of posts that seem to draw this type of response are just objective comments such as "I have to reset my phone every 2 hours" or "battery drain sucks with this beta"

I understand the distinction you're drawing, but I still don't buy it. I have a developer account on both Mac and iOS. I've come to accept the fact that the first few versions of any dev build that come out of either are going to be almost unusable in real world scenarios. My iPhone is too important a daily tool for me to trust its stability to an early dev build. My iPad, not so much. So I can afford to have bugs in it. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to blast forums talking about how bad it is. I either report it to Apple via the dev bug reporter, or just accept it, and move along.

All of this is not even mentioning the fact that disclosing issues in dev builds in public forums is a violation of the developer NDA that every developer agrees to when they sign up or renew.
 
Well, presumably, the longer it takes the more solid a release it will be. Seems like that would be particularly worthwhile after a very buggy release.

And... did somebody say Til Tuesday?
 
Having heard all of the complaints about how bad the iOS 8 betas have performed....how the hell does Apple do these WWDC demos? Is it similar to what Jobs did for the first iPhone presentation, which is using very specific, limited use cases to show off so as not to reveal how far the OS still had to go?
 
Damn. Beta 2 is the buggiest ios beta I've ever tested. No 4G, and twice now my phone has completely frozen on me with the only way to fix it being to wait 4 hours for the battery to run out before charging again!!

You have that right. Damn buggy! One thing I'm finding is a false notice that the memory is full when barely have anything loaded. I'm sure this and other issues is why we see a three week lead from this release.
 
Having heard all of the complaints about how bad the iOS 8 betas have performed....how the hell does Apple do these WWDC demos? Is it similar to what Jobs did for the first iPhone presentation, which is using very specific, limited use cases to show off so as not to reveal how far the OS still had to go?

Pretty much, yes.
 
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