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iOS 8 Now Installed on Over Half of Active iOS Devices
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It's not necessarily the best thing, especially for users with aging devices, but I'm happy with that philosophy because it helps Apple to limits fragmentation and potentially incompatibilities.
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The best one always is the last one, no matter if it's -S or not...
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Absolutely agree with that
Huh?
What you mean multiple bugs in multiple apps?
I am talking about the iOS API, which is broken since day 1 of released. Apple hasnt got over and trying to fix ANY of them, even though they are some critical bugs.
This has nothing to do with any other App, it's Apple's PROBLEM.....
And THEY are the ONLY one can fix it.
The other half can't upgrade because their Apple HW is obsolete after 2 years.
That's clearly false. Apple's support usually is granted for 3 years old devices, and this is a very long time in mobile field, when under Android devices are abandoned after one year (if not less).
The other half can't upgrade because their Apple HW is obsolete after 2 years.
Time to bust out the facts.
- Oldest iPhone Supported: iPhone 4S. Release date: October 14, 2011, or 3 Years, 15 Days ago
- Oldest iPad Supported: iPad 2. Release date: March 11, 2011, or 3 Years, 7 Months, 18 Days ago
- Oldest iPod Supported: iPod touch 5th generation. Release date: October 11, 2012, or 2 Years, 18 Days ago.
No your device was still supported outside of 2 years.
Please, please, PLEASE do your homework before you post.
When you stream a movie in the Videos app, the movie is downloaded into the Other category. Never removing it (which is not quite what the Videos app does, it does get cleared at some point but it is not obvious when exactly) would be one of the bugs I was referring to. While this is an Apple app, the same could happen with third-party apps as well. The Other category is filled with data from apps that don't clear their cached data in a timely manner.
You can call it an OS bug that there is no way to force a deleting of all data in the Other category. But apps that don't clear cached data in reasonable manner (in some cases never) are as much at fault as the OS itself.
Yeah, and if not being able to get the latest OS version means obsoleted, then maybe 90% of all Android devices in use are obsoleted and many Android phones are already obsoleted the day you buy them.
I've been quite happy with iOS 8.1 after weeks of gnashing my teeth about 8.0.x. I'm still quite irritated that they didn't release a faster patch to get WiFi back to functioning, but other than that things have been smooth for me.
I agree with this-- the idea that I couldn't get back to iOS 7 to escape a very buggy iOS 8 is just wrong. Even if iOS 8 weren't buggy, I should have been able to go back...ios8 on my iPhone4S sucks! I hate to use it as it is dead slow.
I dont know why the hell Apple doesnt support to go back to ios7!! No freedom to the customer
That's clearly false. Apple's support usually is granted for 3 years old devices, and this is a very long time in mobile field, when under Android devices are abandoned after one year (if not less).[/QUOTE
I agree!
Why have I never seen these problems with friends that have older phones and update them??? My sons girlfriend has an iPhone 4S and it seems to work pretty good. She feels it works a little snappier. I've seen several people with even older iPhone's have good luck with updating with each update
If Apple kept support for older hardware & software, the next complaint would be, "why don't older devices get the new update for older hardware", "why does Apple only support the software my phone came with".
Apple iOS is the only mobile OS that gives updates for older devices for several years. If they worry about a 3 year old device still working as fast as a new device, we would never keep progressing.
Android is no where close to iOS with consistent updates and support for older hardware is hit & miss at best! Nothing more then a fragmented mess.
Anyone who wants to keep using old harware for whatever reason is fine, but they can't expect it to work as good when it was new, or better with more features in the software designed for today.
I read a post earlier here that was right on. "Every update, it's the same thing, 5 was better then 6, 6 better then 7 and when iOS 9 is here & 6S, 8 was so much better, and then of course, "why does 9 work slow on 6". The yearly Apple conspiracy, Apple just wants us to buy the 6S, that's why my 6 is slow. iOS 8 was so much snappier and no crashes.
It's the same complaints, same Apple conspiracy year after year.
So you are telling me what I'll do 'if'? Typical generalization, seriously.
What I'm telling is, in fact, the opposite of what you are saying. Apple doesn't have to go back, they just should stop when they are unable to provide efficient upgrades.
I don't want ios 8 on old devices, I don't want any update that makes my device useless.
So basically, I couldn't care less to put ios 8.1 on my ipad 2, hopefully it still works with ios 7. Btw, I tried the 8 and immediately downgraded.
It's hard not to take offense when someone compared you to the little whining kids around here. But anyway, no offense taken.
Keep in mind, for the future, to read better other's arguments, because probably you didn't read so well mine.
The Bitching...
Sounds aufully similar to the one you can find in the Thread about iOS7 when it was released... Go back and check it. And Know again everyone "wants" to downgrade to perfect iOS7 (yesterday was awful ios7). there are a few activists that resist to any change for the better, and many like to bitch as an sport, evenmore all of these have a really very deficient short memory about yesterday.
Sounds aufully similar to the one you can find in the Thread about iOS7 when it was released... Go back and check it. And Know again everyone "wants" to downgrade to perfect iOS7 (yesterday was awful ios7). there are a few activists that resist to any change for the better, and many like to bitch as an sport, evenmore all of these have a really very deficient short memory about yesterday.
For the setImageData API in ALAsset, this is a BUG, and also setVideoPath
It was never cleared, which I tested myself numerous of time. I can still find images from years ago that backup from my phones, which are all dummy data.
It's not a OS bug, it's a API bug. And people won't notice it until they jailbreak their phone and look into the folder. Then they will find tons of junk data that just lay around and was never clear out.
Doing a clean reinstall obviously would clear it but that's too close to Microsoft's classic "reinstall windows" to solve bugs so I don't think Apple will go there ;-).
Actually, leaving trash around happens in a lot of system, in Windows 8.1, I still see plenty of things that happen because the system loss track of some data/some state.
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ios8 on my iPhone4S sucks! I hate to use it as it is dead slow.
I dont know why the hell Apple doesnt support to go back to ios7!! No freedom to the customer
Did you look at the settings, often when there is an upgrade, the settings are reset, or new things are introduced that can be disabled to make the phone act like in the previous version.
Many people on Iphone 4 had issue with IOS 7 until they played with the settings a while. It still wasn't zippy, but it was OK for a lot of people.
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& some of that 43% ain't got time for your 5.9 GB requirement.. Swerve.
You don't need 6G if you do it through Itunes, you can just download the upgrade, set the phone down at night and let it rip.
An API bug makes a lot of sense with app's only mistake being to use that API. Though I wouldn't want to exclude the possibility that there is more than one bug filling up the Other category, some of which might be bugs in apps. And people can notice this via the Other category when syncing with iTunes.
I have had the experience that wiping the device and restoring from a backup greatly reduces this Other category (though it naturally comes back). And given how many movies I have streamed since I last did this, at some point they must stop being stored all in the Other category, otherwise it would be huge by now.
Wonder if rebooting the phone cleans the temp files like it does for some windows temp files (but not all).
You are right, and I add something: I'd really want Apple to limit its support at two years old devices. We'd have less whining threads about people complaining about poor performances on very old devices like the iPhone 4S or iPad 2.
But then we'd have threads about whining for the lazy Apple not supporting their iPad 2 ...
It's an endless game: whiners gonna whine
What are you running on the iPod? any intensive apps? I have been holding off- I depend on a spreadsheet in Numbers.
Yup. My iPhone 6 ships out on November 14th. Should arrive near the end of November or beginning of December. Hopefully by then we will have 8.1.1 or 8.2 out with the actual stability we who are holding out desire.
Either way, I'll be forced to use iOS 8 at that point. I'll probably keep holding out on on my Air though.
On a side note, looking throughout the recent reviews for Yosemite on the App Store. I am sure glad to stilling be running 10.9.5! One heck an OS.
I think you are missing the point here. Yes, probably there are some whiners that are not happy with any upgrades, but It's an internet forum, what you expect.
Considering that io7 final was really like a beta, and the first stable release was the 7.1 (March 2014, like 6 month later), people had all the right to complain about the performance and bugs.
I don't undertstand what's wrong to admit that apple deliberately release upgrades that makes your older device slower.
Apple is a business corp. not a charity one. Their purpose is make money: sometimes they choose 'not the best way' to make them. Release an upgrade that makes your 'not so new' but perfectly smooth device a frustrating one, it's not what I expect from them. Same for the lacking of quality control for the software (at least lately).
As I and someone else said before, they should just stop releasing this upgrades for older devices if they are not capable to provide a good experience for the user. Do you want the new features? "Buy the new devices" sound more logic in the business-consumer logic.
At least you'll end up with an old device, but not an old and slow device.
This is why I moved back to iOS to be honest , the new IOS8 has almost caught up to android when it comes to features (although I want to Apple take more advantage of the larger realestate of the iPad and 6 plus and give us an app draw instead of just a wall of apps)
However I moved to The iPhone 6 plus because apple finally gave us a large screen , good battery life , a nice amount of features and cross syncing abilities , as well as instant software updates.
I was an android guy for years and finally ended up getting a nexus 5 which gave me quick updates , every other phone provider your talking months and months of waiting to get the latest software , and even then most of the time you don't get the new features of the new android because they slap there own software on top of it.
You haven't even given a reason as to why legacy support is bad. You just said it is. I can probably agree it isn't ideal for a company, but for the users? Its a blessing. How exactly is not having to upgrade and being able to use the OS you'd like whilst still remaining secure and up to date a bad thing? It isn't. I know many an XP user who really appreciated the level of legacy support they got.
You describe it like dragging a boat anchor and that may be the case. But Microsoft successfully do it, Google successfully do it, IBM successfully do it, BlackBerry successfully do it, the rest of the industry manages it fine. Only Apple who appears to refuse to support older software. There should be no excuse because ditching support isn't a good thing. It leads to situations like this where people are afraid to update their devices and would rather risk losing features prematurely in order to have a device that functions smoothly. Now that is what I'd call bad for a user experience, not being enabled to use the software on your device for an extended period of time because you're updating it.
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What is wrong with fragmentation? Apple paint it as this horrible thing that destroys the user experience of a device, but in reality, it isn't really a bad thing at all. The more fragmented you are, the more compatible you are. If a company successfully manages to deliver new software to a fragmented ecosystem with no issues, the rewards for user experience are huge. It means you can use the software on a vast range of devices with little worries of hardware or software version, meaning flexibility for the user.