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Do you guys know anyone in that 5% that is STILL on iOS 6 or earlier? Do you work with them? Are you in a relationship with them? I'm assuming it's probably not anyone in these forums...

Man I'd love to talk to those people for 5 minutes and see how stubborn and weird they are.

Yeah my mum on her iPhone 4. She saw iOS 7 on my aunts iPhone 4 and said no way. I cannot really argue with her either as iOS 6 does look nicer.
 
I wouldn't say that.

I think it started when the hasty rush-job of iOS7 seemed to put hideous new aesthetics over reliability and stability. Looked like junk and worked worse.

Then, instead of using the space freed up by compact component design to better the battery capacity, cooling & performance, they became obsessive about thinness. Did we mention it was thin? Look how thin it is. It's .6mm thinner. Will it help sell them? Sure, who cares that it doesn't have enough ram to run 2 applications at once, that's what'll motivate them to upgrade in a year.

Now with Yosemite, OS X has ditched everything about the workstation OS that made it clean and logical and rich and elegant and enjoyable to have to sit in front of all day, in favor of following the spectacular aesthetic trends of ...Google and Microsoft. Oh, but with the addition of a bunch of new functionality that comes with enough limitations and bugs that it barely works for anything, at all, ever. Handy.

Then we have a string of uninspired hardware updates, where you can choose between no innovation whatsoever, or less bang for your buck than ever before, and of course everything is now non-upgradable and made of recyclable materials but totally glued together and bound for a landfill faster than ever.


This feels like watching a company skyrocket, then reach the apex as bean counters take over and cost-engineer everything right straight back into the ground. We see it in nearly every single company eventually, over and over and over. It's really sad to see it happening at one of my favorite companies ever.

This mirrors my thoughts precisely.
 
So if you are not tech savvy , and just upgrade when iTunes tells you there is a new version, makes you stupid ????

You missed my point.
It's one thing to upgrade the OS because the iTunes tells you to do it, and another thing to upgrade the OS on let's say iPhone 4s because you think it's going to support Apple pay but otherwise you would have not done it. You don't have to be tech savvy for that.

The person I was quoting was making it seem as people were upgrading on older devices thinking it will support Apple Pay.

So yeah, learn to read and understand first before you jump quoting people.
 
The main problem with iOS adoption rates is that Apple's customers have learned from previous iOS releases.

Each and every X.0 release was buggy as hell at launch.
Also, each and every X.0 release was slow and unresponsive as hell on older devices.

It's always been the X.1 releases that made things better.
Just yesterday, I installed 8.1 on a 1st-gen iPad Mini I replaced by a new Air 2, after holding off on updating it to 8.0 because of many reports it is extremely slow. 8.1 is running perfectly fine on it.

Long story short: Apple is releasing iOS X.0 versions too early. They should either start the Beta phase earlier, or release it later.
Adoption rates will not improve unless the quality of X.0 releases improves.
 
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Apple provides support for older device in iOS update, people say they are doing it to cripple the device and force an upgrade.

Apple does not provide support for older device in iOS update, people claim they are doing it to force an upgrade.

They can't win.

They can. Its very simple. All they have to do is support older software as well as hardware instead of slowly dropping features for them who don't update. People are having to choose between losing features and services or dealing with a slow and laggy handset and personally I don't find it fair one bit.

But Apple has never shown an interest in giving people true legacy support. As soon as the successor for any software they develop is released, the old one is pretty much instantly forgotten about. So I guess its an issue you have to accept if you're buying Apple. After a few updates your device will be slow.
 
Its a good solid upgrade from iOS7, I have no complaints and I'm not surprised given the added features.
 
The main problem with iOS adoption rates is that Apple's customers have learned from previous iOS releases.

Each and every X.0 release was buggy as hell at launch.
Also, each and every X.0 release was slow and unresponsive as hell on older devices.

It's always been the X.1 releases that made things better.
Just yesterday, I installed 8.1 on a 1st-gen iPad Mini I replaced by a new Air 2, after holding off on updating it to 8.0 because of many reports it is extremely slow. 8.1 is running perfectly fine on it.

Long story short: Apple is releasing iOS X.0 versions too early. They should either start the Beta phase earlier, or release it later.
Adoption rates will not improve unless the quality of X.0 releases improves.

I believe they are too slow to update and that the key to better IOS is to widen the testing audience.

Offer free phones and service to a large and diverse group of testers with the proviso that they must submit regular test results or lose their phone.
 
You got that right. I crippled my 4S with 8. But it did repair on the next update. But looks like I have nowt to lose but 'upgrade' to 8.1 ....it surely can't get worse.

Can't it?

How many in the silent majority (of 4S users) are feeling let down by Apple?

I was going to go for a 6 plus. But lost confidence in their integrity after this :-(

The moral of the tale here is ... If in doubt. Wait three months before a software jump and let the early adopters do the beta testing.

If in doubt re: hardware. Wait six months and go for the revised S model.

Thanks!

Were you in a coma when iOS7 was released? It made the iPhone 4 painfully slow, and raped the i5 battery. Not to mention that it was an unstable and bug-ridden o/s for a whole year. Anyone who expected iOS8 to be any different is living in cloud cuckoo land. Upgrading the 4S was 100% bound to cause performance issues.

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yeah, it's called the vocal minority. No one i knew with an i4 had problems with ios7. It improved mine a bunch actually.

lol :)
 
I'll wait for the 6S then.

The -S phones are probably the best ones to go for.
 
Replace "iOS 8" with "iOS 7" and "iPhone 4S" with "iPhone 4" and this could have been a post from 12 months ago.

Replace 'iOS 8' with 'iOS 9' and 'iPhone 6' with 'iPhone 6s or 6+s', and these will be the posts in 12 months time !!
 
Still having wifi issues on my iPhone 6, after 8.1 update. Thinking the 6 is a lemon. :(

Your 6 you mean? Our 6's are all fine here...

To be honest I did have an issue originally with not being able to connect to App Store - I did a clean install from iTunes then did a restore from cloud back up on the phone and it sorted out issues.

Yosemite was very slick update process - not one program issue at all. Install and update in about 20 mins on a MacPro
 
ill be stopping here at 8.1 on my iphone 5. its
just going to slow down even more with updates. ill also do this with future ios purchases.
 
I will be keeping my iPad Air on iOS 7.

There aren't any new features worth upgrading and slow(er) isn't really my thing.

I will probably never upgrade as Apple has for some time the practice of only giving new interesting iOS features to the newer iOS devices (which in understandable for Apple Pay but not in several previous instances).

I wish they would do a "Snow iOS", lean and mean. They could start by decoupling iOS announcements from iPhone launches as that written in stone deadline is really hampering them.
 
You got that right. I crippled my 4S with 8. But it did repair on the next update. But looks like I have nowt to lose but 'upgrade' to 8.1 ....it surely can't get worse.

Can't it?

How many in the silent majority (of 4S users) are feeling let down by Apple?

I was going to go for a 6 plus. But lost confidence in their integrity after this :-(

The moral of the tale here is ... If in doubt. Wait three months before a software jump and let the early adopters do the beta testing.

If in doubt re: hardware. Wait six months and go for the revised S model.

Thanks!

4S user here.

If you already upgraded to iOS 8, upgrade to 8.1 asap. It fixed the headache of 8.0 and 8.0.2, and it fixed 99% of the Safari memory-related crashes that constantly plagued iOS 7.

It's still not as perfect as I'd like, but it's probably much better than what you have.

Edit: Also fixed the battery problems for me, but ymmv.

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4 out of 6 Idevices eligible for IOS 8. Im really surprised IOS 8 runs better than IOS 7 on both iPad 2s. The other devices are 5s, which runs fine.

I'm with you on that one. My Air is running amazingly on iOS 8.1. Safari for instance has crashed maybe once and It keeps 10-15 tabs open without reloading any of them. This is all compared to 2-3 tabs and dozens of crashes every week on iOS 7.

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Replace 'iOS 8' with 'iOS 9' and 'iPhone 6' with 'iPhone 6s or 6+s', and these will be the posts in 12 months time !!

Meh...that's future MR's problem. :D
 
Just my personal experience, but I think iOS 8 is far better. There were a few glitches at first, but not anymore. I didn't like iOS 7 at all.
 
I won't feel secure in installing iOS 8 or Yosemite until the next version of Yosemite is released. I'll let others discover and work out most of the bugs first.
 
If most people could go back to 7 there would be less than 10% on 8.

Not sure why you'd say that. From what I've seen, there's not really much difference between the two.

I'd agree with you if you were talking about iOS 6, though. I've talked to a lot of people who don't like the iOS 7/8 design.
 
Staying on version 7 on a 5S. Not enough room for the update process, anyway. Refuse to put apple tunes on any computer in the house. Bloated crap, it is.

7 works fine enough for a couple more years.
 
"Apple's iOS 8 operating system is now installed on 52 percent of iOS devices"

I'd like to know how many *eligible* devices it is installed on. My guess is that there are still a lot of iPhone 4s out there that can't be upgraded.

I'd also like to know how many of those ineligible devices are still active. I have a 4th-gen iPod Touch that is stuck on iOS 6. If I could upgrade it to iOS 8, I'd still be using it. But since I can't, it is sitting in a drawer right now.
 
iOS 8 is still undercooked

We're at 8.1 now after a month and a half, and we still have:
- Unorganized events in photos, yanked iPhoto app
- Terrible battery life
- Botched continuity rollout for those with older Macs, I know how dare we not upgrade our Macs every 3 years.
- Syncing issues for those choosing to be old school and sync our music library w/ iTunes. You have to re-enable manually choosing songs and videos after iOS 8 upgrade.
- That whole E.T. thing between Tim Cook and Bono

As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing to party over. This is still a buggy mess.
 
I know people moan because Apple forces users to upgrade, but this is still impressive.

Are there any other platforms which have this many users on the latest version?
 
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