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All I want is for them to fix the bugs in Apple Music, but someone on beta 5 said that the storage-killing bug is still present in iOS 9 beta 5.
 
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So, who thinks AT&T will once again try to force customers to give up their unlimited data plans by limiting Wi-Fi calling to those on their tiered data plans?
Seems like misplaced cynicism, that wouldn't make any sense. Wifi calling is presumably not using ATT data, it is some other wifi AP that you are locally connected to. Unless that AP happens to be on someone else's personal hotspot who is connected to ATT and has an old plan, but if they can get enough bars to support that, why wouldn't you just use your cellular connection for the call any way?
 
Maybe one day they will figure out how to not force icon auto arranging to the top of each page so keep them at the bottom of the pages so you don't have to do the super reach or touchy/glitchy double home button click to reach an icon. And I can see more of the wallpaper even better lets have a large clock/weather widget type option to fill that space. Oh and let people change default notification sounds for third party apps. Such simple tweaks that would make a big difference in user experience. Well at least for me. I still think iOs is due for a huge ui restructure. It's still easy to use but not as quick and efficient to use as I would like it to be. iOs 6 jailbroken was my favorite smartphone experience.
 
how do i look at the "There's also a new WiFi Assist feature that will "automatically use cellular data when Wi-Fi connectivity is poor."

Bit?
 
Wifi calling is agnostic to the company providing internet/wifi and your location. As long as both iOS and the carrier allow for it, you'll be able to make calls from your AT&T number but actually routed through VoIP (think Skype). An additional benefit is that it usually sounds cleaner than a normal cell phone call.

Except that some carriers in Canada charge roaming, I believe, when Wi-Fi calling is used abroad.

As crazy as that sounds, I could've sworn I read at least one post from a Canadian recently who said that Wi-Fi calling was treated as roaming by their carrier when used outside of Canada. I have no idea how the carrier would manage to charge roaming on a Wi-Fi call but according to that person, they do.

Edit: Here's a screenshot of the Rogers Wireless Wi-Fi calling plans in Canada. They don't say anything about international roaming or international long distance with Wi-Fi calling. If AT&T does something like this, Wi-Fi calling will be useless unless you're somewhere in the U.S. that has no cell service but has Wi-Fi:

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still crashing in Excel, but aside is working nice. either it's me or the left page with siri suggestions, etc, seems to load instantly now or at least faster on my air 2.
 
So, who thinks AT&T will once again try to force customers to give up their unlimited data plans by limiting Wi-Fi calling to those on their tiered data plans?
This is unlikely.

Cellular providers LOVE WiFi calling because it saves them air bandwidth. Think about it, all those people yacking away on their phones at home are NO LONGER using spectrum on the tower. It's like a network upgrade for them that doesn't cost much to implement.
 
Except that some carriers in Canada charge roaming, I believe, when Wi-Fi calling is used abroad.

As crazy as that sounds, I could've sworn I read at least one post from a Canadian recently who said that Wi-Fi calling was treated as roaming by their carrier when used outside of Canada. I have no idea how the carrier would manage to charge roaming on a Wi-Fi call but according to that person, they do.
The "how" they would do it is specified in that dialog box in the picture in the original post....they make use of location services to determine where you are....probably a combination of GPS and IP address.

The fact that they want to charge roaming is just a money grab. Costs them nothing additional to complete a call (in fact probably less than having to use a local cell tower).
 
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No experience with wifi calling but that would be a game changer if it could be used like iMessage abroad. I'd like to see LTE calls as well.
 
This might be the first beta that I may consider running on my main phone. It's nice and snappy on my iPad. :)

Once some time has passed for any showstopper bugs to be discovered I may do a phone backup and upgrade.
 
The "how" they would do it is specified in that dialog box in the picture in the original post....they make use of location services to determine where you are....probably a combination of GPS and IP address.

The fact that they want to charge roaming is just a money grab. Costs them nothing additional to complete a call (in fact probably less than having to use a local cell tower).

It's pretty insane that a provider would charge you roaming to use WiFi calling.

The whole reason providers charge roaming is because the cellular provider you're roaming on charges YOUR provider for the data and minutes you use. If you're on WiFi this doesn't apply as you're not using the foreign carrier's services.

Just when you think you're done hearing about more idiotic things this week...
 
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how do i look at the "There's also a new WiFi Assist feature that will "automatically use cellular data when Wi-Fi connectivity is poor."

Bit?

Goto Settings>Cellular and scroll all the way to the bottom.
 
iPhone 5 here (6s soon!), on AT&T with the new beta. However, I have no option under the PHONE item in SETTINGS in regards to Wi-fi calling. Anyone else, or just me? I've tried rebooting, etc.
 
The "how" they would do it is specified in that dialog box in the picture in the original post....they make use of location services to determine where you are....probably a combination of GPS and IP address.

Ahhh, good eye, sir! I missed seeing that screenshot in the post. I bet that AT&T will charge roaming when outside the U.S. and they will also not allow for "free" international calls over Wi-Fi. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt I will be. They'll likely live up to the "greedy bastards" moniker that John Legere continues to bestow upon them.
 
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Really like the new wall papers - especially the Blue one..

Nice to see dark pictures - don't think iOS suits white/light backgrounds..
 
There's also a new WiFi Assist feature that will "automatically use cellular data when Wi-Fi connectivity is poor.
For those enabling this, keep a close eye on your data usage, and file bugs if anything seems off.

Apple previously tried to add this feature I think with iOS 6 betas. I ended up with 15GB of overage across a few nights due to something crashing, then uploading the crash dump over cellular instead of WiFi. Engineering was very responsive on trying to track this down, and I think ultimately pulled the feature due to this happening to several of us.

This time around I have confidence this may ship with iOS 9 final, as I believe the Siri multipath tech they built up improved enough to make this feature more reliable.
 
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