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I think people are looking at the details, but not seeing the bigger picture.

During the keynote, one very important point was made before the new keyboard functionalities and app sharing/switching capabilities were introduced: that for many people, iOS devices are the only computing devices that they own.

When you also look at other new iOS features (including the iCloud Drive browser), you can see how Apple truly is thinking different: iOS is being lined up as an alternative to OS X (Linux, Windows, etc) and we will soon see ARM-based Macs.

In the past, talk of ARM-based machines has always been ridiculed on the basis of ARM processors not being powerful enough to run OS X. But clearly ARM processors are powerful enough to drive an iOS Mac range.

I think the days of Apple relying on Intel are coming to an end. iOS is now ready to power Apple's next generation of Macs ... for those people whose only computing device is an iOS machine.

If you also take into account the very limited but very iOS-centric changes made in OS X 10.11, you can also see how Apple is driving focus towards iOS.

Has Apple just signalled the beginning of the end for OS X and Intel?
 
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Good to see Google is honoured with the keyboard redesign, easily one of the worst parts of iOS. Let's see if this will be considered magical, while the zenwatch2 adding a side button is a blatant apple watch ripoff.
 
In general, does anyone know how much space does iOS 9 use?!
i mean, i have a 16GB iPhone, would i see a difference in terms of "more" storage?

Based on my very rough calculation, iOS 9 uses about 2.2gb on my iPhone 6.

I have 49.0GB available, with 6.5 GB used. All my apps and their data (including music and photos) is using about 3.4 GB, so I figure the other 2.2 GB is iOS 9..
 
Is swipe down from any home screen page for Spotlight available or is back to the left of the first home screen like pre-iOS7?
It's currently available from all home screens, as well as swiping left of the first home screen.

Where do attachments come from? iCloud Drive only?
Nope, also from all your third-party cloud stuff. Dropbox, OneDrive, Box, even my local NAS thanks to DS File (Synology DiskStation)! :D
Would be nice if you can also pull documents from other storage sites like Box, Dropbox etc.
It should work using a share sheet extension.
Amazing! After 9 releases. This is the one feature that switched me to Android. Unfortunately, it only works with iCloud and I'm a Dropbox user. I will definitely play with it on my iPad and see how well it works.
It is nice. It has a "Locations" button to select a file from a different app (I'm assuming it's ones that support the extension feature or whatever was introduced in iOS 8).
New option I've never seen before, was OS X Server. Tapping that takes me to the settings app to add a new OS X Server account (same section as adding a new mail/calendar account).
Also, whichever you pick then becomes your default. Inserting an attachment again after selecting Dropbox earlier, gave me dropbox again rather than back to iCloud Drive.

Looks a lot better to me. I mean, it's cosmetic, but still.
Annoying thing about the app switcher is the home screen usually popping up off screen - so if I load it up, close the current app, then have to swipe to get to home screen (or press the home button)

The best option Apple could have come up with to save battery power is giving us the option when we close out of an app it also closes it from running in the background as well. Closes it completely. Sick of apps always running in the background and sick of always having to go through the hassle of having to manually close them all. We should have the ability to choose which apps we want to keep running in the background and which we always want to completely shut down. That so hard??
Turn off "Background App Refresh" in settings. Just because it shows all those apps in the switcher does not mean they are running.
Just want to add - I'm selective with background app refresh. I only have it enabled for the apps that I really do want to background refresh. The rest can sod off.
But, Low Poer Mode does indeed switch off Background App Refresh completely, so I think that will also help.

Ah, quite tricky. This only comes up when you change a passcode, not when you set a new one or disable and then add again.
Yeah, they are definitely pushing the 6-digit, that's for sure.
When installing it, and going through the "Welcome" setup, it does actually give the "Passcode options" between the keyboard and passcode text field.. maybe people missed it? I tapped it, changed to 4-digit right there, and proceeded to enter my passcode that I like.

anybody else here thinks FIND MY FRIENDS/iPhone app/feature will be stalkerish boyfriends looking for there girlfriends who might be cheating and vice versa
only good things might be finding a stolen phone or device and missing kids if the have an iphone
It's not a new thing; they've always been available. I don't think it wasn't installed by default for me, but was installed as part of my restore (I think..). It was also still included in the "Apps by apple" pop-up when opening the app store for the first time.

So they took away request desktop site from Safari?? I see you can also disable the lowercase keyboard.
Request desktop site hasn't gone away, neither has the "Find in page" option. It's just moved to the share sheet.
Tap that sharing arrow, and scroll across the bottom row. You'll find both there.

Can anybody running the beta confirm that it’s possible to search calendar entries in excess of a year in the past please?
This one probably the main reason I was considering a switch to Android.
This didn't work for me. I have a few dentist entries in Jan-Mar last year - they didn't show up in results.

Can somebody who has the beta tell me two things about ios9:

1) Can I manage my contact groups (i.e.: assign a contact to a group or remove a contact from one or more groups)?

2) Can I address an email to an entire group of contacts by typing that contact group name in the "To" (or "BCC") line?

Currently, these are two things that make me put down my iPad and turn to my iMac. Both seem like low hanging fruit that Apple has left on the tree for quite some time.
1) No. I haven't found a way.
2) I typed a group name that was already set up from a past-life, and "Group" appears as a suggestion, and tapping "i" displays info for that group. Tapping the group does nothing for me, but that may be because the group is empty.


The default for the shift key should be the same as a real keyboard: lower case when shift is off – and there's no need to make the letters themselves lowercase. So the shift key should have a white background for lower case, and grey for upper case. This may sound counter-intuitive (because it doesn't match the appearance of the keys) but it is why the shift key will continue be confusing. Changing the appearance of individual letters could cause visual distraction. Better to have a white key with no (or very faint) icon for lower case, grey with up arrow for upper case, and up arrow with line for shift lock.
I've never quite understood the shift key hate tbh..
I do like that the new upper/lower case switching is optional.
In accessibility, there's an option to disable the lower-case switch. Reverts back to how it was before (which people don't like..).
Also, the lower-case switching is actually nice. I think it works well - I'm not finding it distracting.
What was weird, was the little "pop-up" as you hit a key was disabled by default. That can be enabled again in Accessibility settings.
 
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Something else I've noticed, which may have been there in 8.3 and I've just not noticed...
If you go to Settings- Safari- Passwords- it now asks for Touch ID rather than passcode again.
It seemed silly asking for passcode, because if someone knows my passcode to unlock the phone (as some family members do), they can then get into my passwords too (as they're displayed right there in plain text).
Now, they need my fingerprint to see my passwords :) I like it!
 
It's not Apples "idea"... Samsung actually had the idea for this feature almost 2 years ago.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S5-Ultra-Power-Saving-Mode-explained_id53105

I said 'I like the idea'. I did not say Apple (or anyone else) had the idea first just that I like the idea of it - as in it is a good thing. Power saving features have been around for a lot longer than the S5 anyway so it isn't really Samsung's idea either, OS X for example has had it since I can remember. I am afraid no one clan really claim that it is an exclusive thing that someone has copied, the implementation perhaps but not the idea.
 
I think people are looking at the details, but not seeing the bigger picture.

During the keynote, one very important point was made before the new keyboard functionalities and app sharing/switching capabilities were introduced: that for many people, iOS devices are the only computing devices that they own.

When you also look at other new iOS features (including the iCloud Drive browser), you can see how Apple truly is thinking different: iOS is being lined up as an alternative to OS X (Linux, Windows, etc) and we will soon see ARM-based Macs.

In the past, talk of ARM-based machines has always been ridiculed on the basis of ARM processors not being powerful enough to run OS X. But clearly ARM processors are powerful enough to drive an iOS Mac range.

I think the days of Apple relying on Intel are coming to an end. iOS is now ready to power Apple's next generation of Macs ... for those people whose only computing device is an iOS machine.

If you also take into account the very limited but very iOS-centric changes made in OS X 10.11, you can also see how Apple is driving focus towards iOS.

Has Apple just signalled the beginning of the end for OS X and Intel?


No. They have more to loose then to gain if they go ARM only. There will be another two gens before OSes become interchangeable between ARM and Intel. As ARM is going upscale, Intel is downsizing its processors, it will be a photo finish really and it would not make a difference to a consumer. I think Windows 10 will run on ARM for the first time, if nothing else I'm sure PCs will embrace ARM before Macs.

I agree that Apple will not fuse OSX and iOS like Windows is doing right now so that's the difference between the two.
 
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It's not Apples "idea"... Samsung actually had the idea for this feature almost 2 years ago.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S5-Ultra-Power-Saving-Mode-explained_id53105
And...?

The default for the shift key should be the same as a real keyboard: lower case when shift is off – and there's no need to make the letters themselves lowercase. So the shift key should have a white background for lower case, and grey for upper case. This may sound counter-intuitive (because it doesn't match the appearance of the keys) but it is why the shift key will continue be confusing. Changing the appearance of individual letters could cause visual distraction. Better to have a white key with no (or very faint) icon for lower case, grey with up arrow for upper case, and up arrow with line for shift lock.
Seems like changing the letters is a better solution for a soft keyboard.
It took them almost ten years to make image attachments .. clap, clap
Image attachments?

Damn. I dont get it. Why Apple cant implement this simple feature?
They don't see it as one that is needed by most and perhaps even one with potential of causing some unintended issues for various more typical users.
 
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Regardless of what this article says, I'm sure we'll still see the threads listed below:

#1 - My battery life is terrible w/ iOS9

#2 - My WiFi doesn't work after updating to iOS9
Can't like this post enough.
Literally yesterday (the day the beta came out)I saw people commenting about their poor battery life on iOS 9 BETA.
 
I feel that Apple is taking baby steps in technology and giving us gerber with their fingers, while other companies are far more advanced in products and technology. This way apple keeps all their loyal fans wanting for the next "Big" thing.

I don't think anyone is taking real advancements. Technology as a whole is mostly baby steps. Apple, and I don't necessarily agree with it, takes the approach of making it work and adding just enough to 1) ensure that they are adding something of value, and 2) yes feeding us trickle rather than a wave. But in their defense, iOS 8 and 10.10 Yosemite made some serious advancements with Handoff, Continuity, SMS everywhere, etc. that we are simply not seeing anywhere else because Windows and Android will never be joined at the hip.

You also have to remember that we as MR posters represent a slice of the user group as a whole, and usually a more demanding higher end 'prosumer' than the typical consumer that Apple has to consider when marketing. And they still find a way to continue to add features that we want and will use day one that many users will never learn of or implement into their working routine. For a massively large group of people, a computer or tablet ends with email, web, and possibly some apps (games, few utilities) and social media/texting. That's it.
 
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It's actually hilarious it took this long to implement email attachments.
weirdly great timing for me.
It was only last week where I wanted to save a PDF to dropbox and attach it to an email.
I found it strange I couldn't email as attachment from within the dropbox app (unless I missed it), only email a link.
Now it's possible, I feel like I've missed out all this time!
 
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Damn. I dont get it. Why Apple cant implement this simple feature?
Just had a thought.
It'll probably come with iOS 9 on the 6S and force touch.
The Apple Watch has a force touch to clear all feature on notifications, so probably safe to assume the iPhone will get it too..
 
Why still no collapsable folders in the mail app. It should be possible to go into the accounts within the mail app and collapse folders. Folders should be collapsed by default so that I don't have to spend minutes scrolling through my folders just to get to the one beginning with Z.....
 
One more... Lower power mode automatically switches off when you get to 80%
 
Battery saving mode is by far and away the most important addition IMO. It was the main advantage the S5 had over the iPhone.

I like the new feature whereby you can turn your iPhone face down to stop notifications. It would be handy if they could also add that feature to the settings menus so I could toggle notifications to silent. They'd still pop up on the screen but at least they wouldn't make a noise.
 
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