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Improve Touch ID. Still too many people complaining about it failing in time.

Touch ID working flawlessly here. And I mean flawlessly.

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Funny how Apple ended up boning itself keeping the 16GB phone on the market this long. The problem wouldn't have been nearly as bad if they just dropped the 16GB with the 5. Perhaps it will be dropped for the 6s as its not really practical anymore even for a casual user because the OS is so bloated. I'm glad they are going to thin the OS out but it's just going to get bloated again.
Bloated? Are you speaking about Android, right ?
 
Well, if that's true, then my iPad 4 should be good until iOS 10. It's OK... just barely... with iOS 8, but if iOS 9 runs better than iOS 8, then there's no need for me to upgrade.
 
I remember when Bertrand Serlet said that they rewrote the Finder on Snow Leopard and how the under-the-hood improvements even freed like 5 gigs of space or something like that. We need that ML treatment on iOS.
 
That sounds very promising. This will probably be the last release my iPhone 5 will experience, so it would be great if it would be a little more refined than the clusterfck that iOS 8 was. I feel that the pressure to "innovate" is just too high in the software department. They push out new features that hardly mature, and now I have all these icons on my home screen that I just barely ever touch. I know Apple is an extremely wealthy company and is therefore bound to invest, but I don't have the feeling that all these power is used very coherently at the moment. Less, but better would be nice.
 
Here is a novel idea, if 16GB doesn't work for your lifestyle, then use your god given free will to purchase a larger model.

thats got nothing to do with the fact that 16GB is not a lot today and as i pointed out your "fine" argument could just as well be applied to much smaller capacity devices.

it seems quite logical (especially considering how popular iphone is as a camera) that as the camera improves and each picture takes more space that the storage space increases as well.

as far as making educated decisions and using your free will. sure however apple decided to handle ios updates differently without much announcements and it wasnt until you noticed the ota download had taken up most of your space that you figured something out. educated decisions rely on a proper flow of information.
 
thats got nothing to do with the fact that 16GB is not a lot today and as i pointed out your "fine" argument could just as well be applied to much smaller capacity devices.

it seems quite logical (especially considering how popular iphone is as a camera) that as the camera improves and each picture takes more space that the storage space increases as well.

as far as making educated decisions and using your free will. sure however apple decided to handle ios updates differently without much announcements and it wasnt until you noticed the ota download had taken up most of your space that you figured something out. educated decisions rely on a proper flow of information.


I have never run out of storage space on my phone and take quite a lot of photos. Amazing what Photostream can do for you.
 
For those who like me wondered what the antecedent for this was:



I learned generations ago to not buy a 16GB device, but Joe Consumer probably doesn't have that foresight, and arguably shouldn't have to. The base model should be useable.
I had 4 Gb of free space on my 16 Gb iPhone 5S, and I'm not a casual user.
All this whining about the 16 Gb model is exaggerated...
 
It's hard to argue with Apple's success pushing out new features, but I feel like a release that prioritizes bug fixes is a great idea.
 
I think that's the right move by apple, hopefully they'll also consider doing the same thing with OS X 10.11
 
HALLELUYAH!

We need another Snow Leopard type of release, both on the Mac and on iOS.

Took the words right out of my mind. There's a reason so many people still hang on Snow Leopard, it had good stability, a good mature feature set, and had some great backwards compatibility still (Rosetta). If we can have OS's both on iOS Devices and on Macs, we will all be in for a real treat. I know it's harder for the marketing department to sell under the hood stability, and such, but I really think a Tic-Tock type release schedule would be good.
1) - Release new features, new GUI, etc...
2) - Focus on refinement of the OS, Stability, compatibility, efficiency, performance, with a few new features.
3) go back to step 1


This is what I thought we were going to be doing once we had OS names making it feel that way.
1) Leopard
2) Snow Leopard

1) Lion
2) Mountain Lion

I still hope this is the type of development cycle we head towards.


I also keep hoping we can move to a release where only language files for the appropriate language(s) used on devices would be installed.
 
Why? My 16GB iPhone 5S, 2x 16GB iPad Air, and 3x 16GB iPad Minis are doing just fine.

Its like saying 'I can't believe my rMBP only came with 500GB SSD' when most computers come with multi TB drives.

Its almost as if the consumer can make an educated decision on what device they want to purchase for their needs.
This. I'm doing just fine with my 240 Gb MBP....
Just because I'm not collecting garbage on my iDevice, that doesn't mean I'm an uneducated user.
 
I have never run out of storage space on my phone and take quite a lot of photos. Amazing what Photostream can do for you.

i have a few times but that dosent factor into my opinion. i used an 8 gig original for 7 years and ran out of space and on my 16 gig 5s the ota download takes a few gig.

my opinion is that its beneath apple to be using these used car salesmens tricks.

This. I'm doing just fine with my 240 Gb MBP....
Just because I'm not collecting garbage on my iDevice, that doesn't mean I'm an uneducated user.

music, pictures and videos dont have to take up much less space on an iphone than a computer, office documents certainly do not and cleaning up cache from applications is considerably easier on a computer. and of course on computers you dont have to deal with os updates being downloaded and taking up a few gig.

that of course dosent stop you from judging that people that dont use devices just like you must be collected garbage.
 
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Give us multiple accounts on one device. I hate that on our iPad its a land-grab. My wife has the Facebook app login, I'm the one that's logged into LinkedIn, iMessage, and FaceTime, etc. Profiles/user accounts would be great for iPad. We're not going to buy another iPad so that each of us can have a customized experience so its not like Apple is going to lose money on us.
This is something I'd like to have, especially on iPad
 
For 2015, iOS 9 is going to include a collection of under-the-hood improvements. Sources tell us that iOS 9 engineers are putting a "huge" focus on fixing bugs, maintaining stability, and boosting performance for the new operating system, rather than solely focusing on delivering major new feature additions.

If only they took this approach for OSX. Hey, I can dream right?
 
Did you miss Mavericks?

Having gone from 10.6 directly to 10.9 last year, I can tell you Mavericks is no Snow Leopard. Disk access in particular is much worse; it takes far longer to boot up to a usable state.

--Eric
 
I cannot relate to any of the issues that the latest iPhones and iPads everybody claims to have. I agree, new versions of iOS may run like crap on older devices. When I updated my 4S and my 3rd generation iPad to iOS 7, the performance dramatically dropped, but I was planning to upgrade anyway. The 5S I bought afterwards ran iOS 7 like a champ from day one - never had any issues with the OS. Every once in a while, there was a random app that crashed for no reason, but I never experienced any kind of reboots or overall slugishness. The same goes for the iPad Air that I got on launch day - it's still running the latest version of iOS without any problem. It was a solid performer from the beginning.

I have an iPhone 6 since October and I don't recall having a single bug. It works perfectly. I use it heavily for almost everything, got a ton of apps installed that I use on a regular basis. And yes, I know that by the time iOS 10 comes out it may be a dysfunctional piece of crap, just like my old Apple devices turned into after two major OS updates, but for now, everything works as it should.

I never actually felt like the latest iOS releases were buggy. They felt just as solid as iOS 5 and 6 did at the time. It's been almost two years and I still have major concerns regarding several elements of the new UI, but when it comes to performance, my iPhone and my iPad feel incredibly powerful. I'm just reading all these comments talking about the awful performance of everyone's latest and greatest devices and I'm like : "What are these guys talking about?" Or maybe I got lucky.
 
About time they started working on stability and optimization. The last STABLE iOS release was 6.1.4, which is why I am still on it. No iOS 7/8 user can say they are able to get 10-12 hours active usage on their phone. NONE.

My iPhone 6 Plus disagrees with you. I get 12-15 hours of usage on average.
 
Here's a better idea. Instead of having programmers spending countless hours trimming the OS down 25%, do the common sense thing and make the lowest end unit come with 32, then 64, then 128.



I can't believe a 8/16 GB iPhones are still sold.


Alternatively, just drop the 16 model and make the $299 64 gb iPhone the new base model.
 
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